dubmeup wrote:
Amen to that.

nirvana wrote:
You should've fucking stayed there.

Since coming across the posts on this thread, my views have changed. I thought people here understood how there were 2 sides in this situation & a long, long history. Obviously not.

This comment especially, from a mod, is not the way I originally saw the poster, or The Zone, until now.
psketti wrote:

No doubt my karma will be negative by morning. No matter, at least I'm trying to stand up for sense in this mess that is life.
nirvana wrote:
Obviously they don't want to talk and never have, all they want is the Jews dead.

Sorry folks, the state of play now is that there are many innocents. To get rid of the Jews as their opposition wants is not the answer.
wake_up_bomb wrote:
Arabs transported there to intentionally provoke aggression on the borders. The leaders wanted headlines. Same as Israel's leaders want headlines when it suits them.
batou wrote: eg;



If you care to take a few minutes to actually watch this clip posted by Nirvana then you may see another side to the story. However preconceptions may get it the way. I doubt many posters on this thread even clicked it never mind watched more than 2mins.



Mahmoud Abbas, President of the Palestinian Authority:

"The Arab armies entered Palestine to protect the Palestinians from the Zionist tyranny, but instead they abandoned them, forced them to emigrate and to leave their homeland, imposed upon them a political and ideological blockade and threw them into prisons similar to the ghettos in which Jews used to live in Eastern Europe."

Nonetheless, a million Arabs chose to stay in Israel.
Today, the Arabs who live in Israel have more rights than Arabs living in any Arab state.

Good night, and sleep tight. Peace to all.

Rewind wrote:
I apologise for offending you rewind - But not for what I said. I'd just read one of his previous delightful posts and I then let personal feelings at that moment in time, respond. I would have reacted this way whether I was a mod or not.

And to be fair, you shouldn't judge the whole place on one persons actions.

I did watch the vid rewind. Personally, I did say in the post that I put the pics in, that ALL the child deaths are a disgrace. Both sides aren't exactly without blame, this much is undeniable. Both sides are being led by wankers. At present though, one side is very much in the ascendancy and innocents are regularly being um oppressed....I stand by my opinion that Cameron is indeed an utter wanker for backing this, just as I stand by my opinion that Hague is with regard to Syria.
Those opinions don't mean I support Hamas, Assad or anyone. It means I support people having a life without hell being inflicted on them by murderous bastards.

Ok, understood, thanks. Suppose I was on one a bit last night anyway.

I feel sympathetic to the innocents on both sides and obviously I'm not impressed with oppression of either peoples.

What sometimes gets me is that the Israeli's don't seem like the victims these days in many eyes however we can be quick to forget how their enemies actually work. Also it's easy to just blame them for being there in the first place, after WWII. History goes way further back though, none of us know that much for sure. There's been thousands of years of secrets & not so secrets.

I'm not suggesting I have any answers to how they can all move forward. I reckon it'll take a while though, people need leaders but they need good leaders. Unfortunately, the way politics works, (on both sides of this situation) is not what I'd call cricket.

I'm outtie

Rewind wrote: Me tooie