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Foster Children Removed by Social Workers Because Parents Support UKIP 24 Nov 2012 09:31 #1

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www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/970000...members-of-Ukip.html
Foster parents 'stigmatised and slandered’ for being members of Ukip

A couple had their three foster children taken away by a council on the grounds that their membership of the UK Independence Party meant that they supported “racist” policies

The husband and wife, who have been fostering for nearly seven years, said they were made to feel like criminals when a social worker told them that their views on immigration made them unsuitable carers.

Speaking to The Daily Telegraph, the couple said they feared that there was a black mark against their name and they would not be able to foster again.

Last night campaigners representing foster parents described the decision as “ridiculous” and warned that it could deter other prospective foster parents from volunteering.

Nigel Farage, the leader of Ukip, described the actions of Rotherham borough council as “a bloody outrage” and “political prejudice of the very worst kind”.

Tim Loughton, the former children’s minister, said: “I will be very concerned if decisions have been made about the children's future that were based on misguided political correctness around ethnic considerations.

"Being a supporter of a mainstream political party is not a deal-breaker when it comes to looking after children if it means they can have a loving family home.”

The couple, who do not want to be named to avoid identifying the children they have fostered, are in their late 50s and live in a neat detached house in a village in South Yorkshire.

The husband was a Royal Navy reservist for more than 30 years and works with disabled people, while his wife is a qualified nursery nurse.

Former Labour voters, they have been approved foster parents for nearly seven years and have looked after about a dozen different children, one of them in a placement lasting four years.

They took on the three children — a baby girl, a boy and an older girl, who were all from an ethnic minority and a troubled family background — in September in an emergency placement.

They believe that the youngsters thrived in their care. The couple were described as “exemplary” foster parents: the baby put on weight and the older girl even began calling them “mum and dad”.

However, just under eight weeks into the placement, they received a visit out of the blue from the children’s social worker at the Labour-run council and an official from their fostering agency.

They were told that the local safeguarding children team had received an anonymous tip-off that they were members of Ukip.

The wife recalled: “I was dumbfounded. Then my question to both of them was, 'What has Ukip got to do with having the children removed?’

“Then one of them said, 'Well, Ukip have got racist policies’. The implication was that we were racist. [The social worker] said Ukip does not like European people and wants them all out of the country to be returned to their own countries.

“I’m sat there and I’m thinking, 'What the hell is going off here?’ because I wouldn’t have joined Ukip if they thought that.

"I’ve got mixed race in my family. I said, 'I am absolutely offended that you could come in my house and accuse me of being a member of a racist party’.”

The wife said she told the social worker and agency official: “These kids have been loved. These kids have been treated no differently to our own children. We wouldn’t have taken these children on if we had been racist.

”The boy was taken away from them the following day and the two girls were removed at the end of that week."

The wife said the social worker told her: “We would not have placed these children with you had we known you were members of Ukip because it wouldn’t have been the right cultural match.”

The wife said she was left “bereft”, adding: “We felt like we were criminals. From having a little baby in my arms, suddenly there was an empty cot. I knew she wouldn’t have been here for ever, but usually there is a build-up of several weeks. I was in tears, although not in front of the social worker.”

Her husband added: “If we were moving the children on to happier circumstances we would be feeling warm and happy. To have it done like that, it’s beyond the pale.”

The couple said they had been “stigmatised and slandered”.

A spokesman for Rotherham metropolitan borough council said last night: “After a group of sibling children were placed with agency foster carers, issues were raised regarding the long-term suitability of the carers for these particular children.

"With careful consideration, a decision was taken to move the children to alternative care. We continue to keep the situation under review.”

Ukip was once considered a single-issue fringe party but is now part of Britain’s political mainstream, with some recent national polls putting its support as high as nine per cent.

Its manifesto includes a demand for Britain to pull out of Europe and to curb immigration. It is also critical of multiculturalism and political correctness.

The party has three peers in the House of Lords, all defectors from the Conservatives, and 12 MEPs, although it has never won a seat in the Commons. It has a candidate in next week’s by-election in Rotherham.

Mr Farage said: “I am outraged politically and very upset for them. I think this is the kind of thing where we need some sort of decree from a Government minister that Ukip is not a racist party.

“This is political prejudice of the very worst kind. It is just a bloody outrage.”

He pointed out that Ukip has a black candidate in the forthcoming Croydon North by-election.

David Goosey, the chairman of the trustees at Community Foster care, an independent fostering charity, said: “If this is accurate and there are no other extraneous matters that have concerned the authorities, then it is completely ridiculous and no self-respecting authority should be stopping people fostering on the grounds of their membership of Ukip.”

Nushra Mansuri, of the British Association of Social Workers, said: “My first question would be, does the local council have a clear equality policy so you can understand a bit more about the decision-making?

“Otherwise it’s very difficult to fathom.”
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Re: Foster Children Removed by Social Workers Because Parents Support UKIP 24 Nov 2012 09:39 #2

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Staggering. :facepalm:
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Re: Foster Children Removed by Social Workers Because Parents Support UKIP 24 Nov 2012 09:40 #3

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The children thrived in their care, it says. That's what matters.

Fucking busy-body, control freak, imbeciles!!! This is the kind of decision that ought to get people sacked. What reason will the authorities have provided for the kids - if any!?! :mad:
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Re: Foster Children Removed by Social Workers Because Parents Support UKIP 24 Nov 2012 11:08 #4

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' It has a can­di­date in next week’s by-​election in Rother­ham'

Coincidence?
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Re: Foster Children Removed by Social Workers Because Parents Support UKIP 24 Nov 2012 12:26 #5

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Although the adult's involved are most likely nasty selfish grabbing anti anybody else who is not them,they don't differ from the majority in that respect so rotherham council are wrong to interfere.

I must add that ukip are so full of shit it's unbelievable.
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Re: Foster Children Removed by Social Workers Because Parents Support UKIP 24 Nov 2012 12:47 #6

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humanspirit wrote:
Although the adult's involved are most likely nasty selfish grabbing anti anybody else who is not them,they don't differ from the majority in that respect so rotherham council are wrong to interfere.

They could also be thoroughly nice people.
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I must add that ukip are so full of shit it's unbelievable.

Which political party isn't?
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Re: Foster Children Removed by Social Workers Because Parents Support UKIP 24 Nov 2012 13:04 #7

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The hus­band and wife, who have been fos­ter­ing for nearly seven years, said they were made to feel like crim­i­nals when a social worker told them that their views on immi­gra­tion made them unsuit­able car­ers.

Makes me wonder if there is a list of acceptable views that foster parents are allowed to have.
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Re: Foster Children Removed by Social Workers Because Parents Support UKIP 24 Nov 2012 13:13 #8

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interesting that the british state is many ists....
the plod to this day still exhibit racism
the church.......sexism
loads of real examples of bona fide bigotry, throughout the arms of state...

is it racist to wish for a fair distribution of wealth that reduces pressure of immigration on economic hot spots like britain? no.

imho the attempt by the state to use the racist tag to stifle debate on the issues behind why people are congregating in wealth centres as they are, is crass.
the fact that the state ignores so much of its own isms just makes it more crass.
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Re: Foster Children Removed by Social Workers Because Parents Support UKIP 24 Nov 2012 13:30 #9

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Speak­ing to The Daily Tele­graph, the cou­ple said they feared that there was a black mark against their name and they would not be able to fos­ter again.

case closed. :rofl:
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Re: Foster Children Removed by Social Workers Because Parents Support UKIP 24 Nov 2012 13:42 #10

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Re: Foster Children Removed by Social Workers Because Parents Support UKIP 25 Nov 2012 15:52 #11

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I take it fostering & voting BNP is completely out of the question then.
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Re: Foster Children Removed by Social Workers Because Parents Support UKIP 25 Nov 2012 22:55 #12

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I take it fostering & voting BNP is completely out of the question then.

Should it be?
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Re: Foster Children Removed by Social Workers Because Parents Support UKIP 26 Nov 2012 21:37 #13

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I take it fostering & voting BNP is completely out of the question then.

Should it be?

Yes.
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Re: Foster Children Removed by Social Workers Because Parents Support UKIP 26 Nov 2012 22:26 #14

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I get pissed off at the assumption that libertarians are racist. They aren't they just want their national sovereignty back.

I've had my fair share of raised eyebrows whilst openly declared my libertarian leanings. If people think it's racist, I'm way beyond the point of giving a toss anyway.

The chances are, quite a few unsavoury characters are attracted to fostering so they can get their hands on vulnerable children. They are the people they should be concerned about.
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Re: Foster Children Removed by Social Workers Because Parents Support UKIP 27 Nov 2012 05:16 #15

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I am not sure where I stand on this - the state has a duty to those in its care - but I do not think that in this case they were failing in there duty were they to have left the children in foster care where by all accounts they were thriving - all because someone votes ukip. I do not have much time for ukip as a political party on the other hand I do think that the conservatives are a bunch of wankers - does that mean that anyone who votes for a party that is intent on taking every last shred of support for the sick and the poor - cannot foster a disabled or disadvantaged kid?
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Re: Foster Children Removed by Social Workers Because Parents Support UKIP 27 Nov 2012 08:44 #16

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Good question thor... and should labour supporters be barred due to such things as the invasion of iraq? If you support mass murder are you fit to foster kids?
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I get pissed off at the assumption that libertarians are racist. They aren't they just want their national sovereignty back.

I've had my fair share of raised eyebrows whilst openly declared my libertarian leanings. If people think it's racist, I'm way beyond the point of giving a toss anyway.

The chances are, quite a few unsavoury characters are attracted to fostering so they can get their hands on vulnerable children. They are the people they should be concerned about.

I'm guessing you're not suggesting ukip are libertarian, lol :)

I'm surprised anyone knows just wtf libertarian is in the UK. If they did then there's no way it can be seen as racist, after all, how is it racist to want minimal government? If anything its the entire opposite because libertarians are all about removing various govt policies that are full of bias towards some group or other.

Authoritarian nationalists are another bunch altogether ofc...
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Re: Foster Children Removed by Social Workers Because Parents Support UKIP 27 Nov 2012 15:31 #18

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andyh wrote:
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I get pissed off at the assumption that libertarians are racist. They aren't they just want their national sovereignty back.

I've had my fair share of raised eyebrows whilst openly declared my libertarian leanings. If people think it's racist, I'm way beyond the point of giving a toss anyway.

The chances are, quite a few unsavoury characters are attracted to fostering so they can get their hands on vulnerable children. They are the people they should be concerned about.

I'm guessing you're not suggesting ukip are libertarian, lol :)

I'm surprised anyone knows just wtf libertarian is in the UK. If they did then there's no way it can be seen as racist, after all, how is it racist to want minimal government? If anything its the entire opposite because libertarians are all about removing various govt policies that are full of bias towards some group or other.

Authoritarian nationalists are another bunch altogether ofc...

I'm pretty sure I've read that the UKIP consider themselves to be libertarian, and there's a lot of nuances in that category. I would say they fall under the umbrella, and I know that some libertarians support their policies. I can thank my dad for my introduction to libertarianism. He is partially sympathetic towards UKIP, but to quote him, "Nigel Farage is a bit of a cock". Which sums it up pretty well for me imo. I've seen the guy on Question Time and I'm sorry to say that I don't think he does himself (or the party) any favours.

I took the political compass test and came out as a social libertarian.

However, since when was it racist to be open about the fact that you want tighter immigration policies? It's not the same as racism.
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Re: Foster Children Removed by Social Workers Because Parents Support UKIP 27 Nov 2012 15:38 #19

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Racist no, protectionist yes.
Immigration policies are a total red herring. The issue is the distribution of wealth. Until we as a species address that, we are at best papering over cracks.
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Re: Foster Children Removed by Social Workers Because Parents Support UKIP 27 Nov 2012 16:25 #20

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LesleyPumpshaft wrote:
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LesleyPumpshaft wrote:
I get pissed off at the assumption that libertarians are racist. They aren't they just want their national sovereignty back.

I've had my fair share of raised eyebrows whilst openly declared my libertarian leanings. If people think it's racist, I'm way beyond the point of giving a toss anyway.

The chances are, quite a few unsavoury characters are attracted to fostering so they can get their hands on vulnerable children. They are the people they should be concerned about.

I'm guessing you're not suggesting ukip are libertarian, lol :)

I'm surprised anyone knows just wtf libertarian is in the UK. If they did then there's no way it can be seen as racist, after all, how is it racist to want minimal government? If anything its the entire opposite because libertarians are all about removing various govt policies that are full of bias towards some group or other.

Authoritarian nationalists are another bunch altogether ofc...

I'm pretty sure I've read that the UKIP consider themselves to be libertarian, and there's a lot of nuances in that category. I would say they fall under the umbrella, and I know that some libertarians support their policies. I can thank my dad for my introduction to libertarianism. He is partially sympathetic towards UKIP, but to quote him, "Nigel Farage is a bit of a cock". Which sums it up pretty well for me imo. I've seen the guy on Question Time and I'm sorry to say that I don't think he does himself (or the party) any favours.

I took the political compass test and came out as a social libertarian.

However, since when was it racist to be open about the fact that you want tighter immigration policies? It's not the same as racism.

Its a pretty big umbrella so to speak if you take in the 'official' viewpoint of what libertarian is.

To my mind they are nothing more than a bunch of economic liberals, in other words, jumped up tories who only give a shit about big corp and to hell with everyone else.

As for immigration policy, a true libertarian would not want any policy at all..... you understand that right?

Taxation/restriction/regulation are all authoritarian, libertarian is the entire opposite ;)

This is what gets on my goat so much with the inconsistency that goes on with the likes of 'randian' libertarians like Ron Paul etc etc.
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