Mike wrote: I haven't watched any of his lectures or talks. I don't see how his political views come into it. Either what he's saying has merit, or it doesn't. Either Common Purpose are a sinister organisation with huge ulterior motives, or they're not. I don't see how political leanings are of any relevance.

billy wears blue and jimmy wears red. like left and right, right
guess what, they are twins

double dragon, most politcal game of ever.
dont ignore me im a facilitator, you have to listen and respect me.

batou wrote:
My graph has 4 dragons :p

sage and lavender dont count, they are herbs

you know i took that test i got something down and to the left

www.politicalcompass.org/printablegraph?ec=-3.25&soc=-3.69

so saying that, sage is a real color and probably the most powerful dragon. whereas lavender is still a pussy herb only.

I thought I'd check, just in case....



I'm mellowing with age

www.politicalcompass.org/printablegraph?ec=9000&soc=9000
power levels over 9000 = centrist.

batou wrote:
Hahahaa!!

oioioi wrote:
You're deffo way over to the left than last time

Still the same y axis value though

Mr Brokenshire mentions the government radicalisation reduction scheme and the channel programme,what are those then?

Personally i think the present government is a far right extremist threat but hay ho what do i know.

humanspirit wrote:
Yes they are, along with all the govts of the EU and the US as indeed the crowd who made the political compass site also agree.

The 'far-right extremism' word is used to describe what is in fact an extreme authoritarian centrist ideology. National socialism.

They don't want to use the word 'far authoritarian' .
Hopefully eventually ppl will get it

Another way of looking at it is to completely do away with the words left/right and instead replace them with

Government run economy / Corporate run economy

Anyone having light bulbs go off yet?

You then keep the authoritarian and libertarian at opposing ends of the y-axis to illustrate how forcefully it is imposed.

Libertarian-corporate would be everything from ron paul as weak on the y axis but strong on the x to anarcho-capitalism as strong on both the y and the x.

Anarcho-syndicalism would be the weaker x type for the 'left' axis and strong on the y.

The strong x type for the libertarian left side would be anarcho-communism but in reality this is either an oxymoron (govt and money without govt lol!) or something like anarcho-primitivism and collectivist communes. Its also arguable that the venus project belongs there but it would require a whole new scale because there is no money.

I would propose a z axis for varying levels of money

Top of the z axis would be keynesian fractional reserve madness, bottom would be the venus project, the middle would be a static monetary system with no fractional reserve and perhaps gold/silver backing or govt treasury notes.

Ok.. so what if someone doesn't have an 'ism' an 'ist' an 'ian' an 'omy' or an X,Y, or Z or left or right or anything else at the end of their 'beliefs'... what does that 'make them'?

If that made sense to anyone else other than me?

psketti wrote:
lol

Cmon, its simple

You believe basically in 2 things on the graph, just in varying amounts.
Either the govt runs the economy or corporations do (left/right) and you believe in either forcing everyone to do everything or in letting everyone live their lives in peace.(up/down)
Simples.

Ok, so wheres the link to check what I am?

www.politicalcompass.org/test

andyh wrote: I was quite intrigued by your left vs right stance, by your definition you believe in a mix of corporate and government control of the economy?
Could you explain how that would look and function, would this mean perpetual conflict between corporate and government interests?

in 2011:
Economic Left/Right: -6.62
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.15
2013:
Economic Left/Right: -8.12
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.03

A reasonable trajectory, this trajectory encompasses my departure from CT and my first readings of Marxism.

psketti wrote:
HERE