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TOPIC: “US Plan for Chemical Attack in Syria to Be Blamed on Assad” - Jan 29, 2013 Dailymail

“US Plan for Chemical Attack in Syria to Be Blamed on Assad” - Jan 29, 2013 Dailymail 02 Sep 2013 10:56 #161

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Q. Ana Ivanovic had some great things to say about you, playing hide and seek with you as a kid. When there were bombings, if there was a match you were allowed to finish it, but you couldn't start a new one. Could you bring to life what you wrote in the book when the bombs were actually falling, your dad was calling out to you, you were wondering where your brother was? What was going through your mind at that time?

NOVAK DJOKOVIC: Well, those particular times that me and my fellow countrymen and colleagues from Serbia have been through is definitely, you know, a period of life that we don't wish anybody to experience. The war is the worst thing in life for humanity. Nobody really wins. But it made us stronger, you know, this two and a half months. We looked at it on the bright side. We were kids. We were only 12 years old. So we thought, Okay, now we're not obliged to go to school, we can play more tennis. So we spent the whole day basically every day for two months on the tennis courts with the planes flying over our heads. We really didn't mind. After a week or two of the bombings, we just kind of moved on with our lives. We did everything we could and what we wanted. We just let the life decide for us. It was not in our control. We were helpless basically. Luckily we all survived, and we take this kind of experience and this particular situation from our past as a great lesson in the life and something that allowed us to be stronger mentally and to actually understand what it is to basically have nothing, you know, start from zero, from scratch, and arrive to where we are. I think these kind of particular experiences helped us appreciate all the life values and everything that has been given to us by the life much more than we would probably if we didn't have these experiences.

Q. If I could, when you do see in the headlines possible air strikes and so forth, are you cautionary about that? Do you say, Oh, no? Any thoughts of what's going on now?

NOVAK DJOKOVIC: I'm totally against any kind of weapon, any kind of air strike, missile attack. I'm totally against anything that is destructive. Because I had this personal experience, I know it cannot bring any good to anybody.
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“US Plan for Chemical Attack in Syria to Be Blamed on Assad” - Jan 29, 2013 Dailymail 02 Sep 2013 12:09 #162

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The response is predicated on the notion that the Assad regime are the ones that used them (CW) last week. In essence the outrage merely bolsters the notion that it was Assad that commissioned the atrocity.
just a repeat of the faux "scandal" of "machine parts" were sold to Sadda/Iraq that he made those WMD that were never found.
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“US Plan for Chemical Attack in Syria to Be Blamed on Assad” - Jan 29, 2013 Dailymail 02 Sep 2013 14:20 #163

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www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/doe...as-side-8786680.html
Does Obama know he’s fighting on al-Qa’ida’s side?
Yes, he does.
If Barack Obama decides to attack the Syrian regime, he has ensured – for the very first time in history – that the United States will be on the same side as al-Qa’ida.

Quite an alliance! Was it not the Three Musketeers who shouted “All for one and one for all” each time they sought combat? This really should be the new battle cry if – or when – the statesmen of the Western world go to war against Bashar al-Assad.

The men who destroyed so many thousands on 9/11 will then be fighting alongside the very nation whose innocents they so cruelly murdered almost exactly 12 years ago. Quite an achievement for Obama, Cameron, Hollande and the rest of the miniature warlords.

This, of course, will not be trumpeted by the Pentagon or the White House – nor, I suppose, by al-Qa’ida – though they are both trying to destroy Bashar. So are the Nusra front, one of al-Qa’ida’s affiliates. But it does raise some interesting possibilities.

Maybe the Americans should ask al-Qa’ida for intelligence help – after all, this is the group with “boots on the ground”, something the Americans have no interest in doing. And maybe al-Qa’ida could offer some target information facilities to the country which usually claims that the supporters of al-Qa’ida, rather than the Syrians, are the most wanted men in the world.

There will be some ironies, of course. While the Americans drone al-Qa’ida to death in Yemen and Pakistan – along, of course, with the usual flock of civilians – they will be giving them, with the help of Messrs Cameron, Hollande and the other Little General-politicians, material assistance in Syria by hitting al-Qa’ida’s enemies. Indeed, you can bet your bottom dollar that the one target the Americans will not strike in Syria will be al-Qa’ida or the Nusra front.

And our own Prime Minister will applaud whatever the Americans do, thus allying himself with al-Qa’ida, whose London bombings may have slipped his mind. Perhaps – since there is no institutional memory left among modern governments – Cameron has forgotten how similar are the sentiments being uttered by Obama and himself to those uttered by Bush and Blair a decade ago, the same bland assurances, uttered with such self-confidence but without quite enough evidence to make it stick.

In Iraq, we went to war on the basis of lies originally uttered by fakers and conmen. Now it’s war by YouTube. This doesn’t mean that the terrible images of the gassed and dying Syrian civilians are false. It does mean that any evidence to the contrary is going to have to be suppressed. For example, no-one is going to be interested in persistent reports in Beirut that three Hezbollah members – fighting alongside government troops in Damascus – were apparently struck down by the same gas on the same day, supposedly in tunnels. They are now said to be undergoing treatment in a Beirut hospital. So if Syrian government forces used gas, how come Hezbollah men might have been stricken too? Blowback?

And while we’re talking about institutional memory, hands up which of our jolly statesmen know what happened last time the Americans took on the Syrian government army? I bet they can’t remember. Well it happened in Lebanon when the US Air Force decided to bomb Syrian missiles in the Bekaa Valley on 4 December 1983. I recall this very well because I was here in Lebanon. An American A-6 fighter bomber was hit by a Syrian Strela missile – Russian made, naturally – and crash-landed in the Bekaa; its pilot, Mark Lange, was killed, its co-pilot, Robert Goodman, taken prisoner and freighted off to jail in Damascus. Jesse Jackson had to travel to Syria to get him back after almost a month amid many clichés about “ending the cycle of violence”. Another American plane – this time an A-7 – was also hit by Syrian fire but the pilot managed to eject over the Mediterranean where he was plucked from the water by a Lebanese fishing boat. His plane was also destroyed.

Sure, we are told that it will be a short strike on Syria, in and out, a couple of days. That’s what Obama likes to think. But think Iran. Think Hezbollah. I rather suspect – if Obama does go ahead – that this one will run and run.
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“US Plan for Chemical Attack in Syria to Be Blamed on Assad” - Jan 29, 2013 Dailymail 02 Sep 2013 14:23 #164

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www.storyleak.com/pat-buchanan-chemical-...alse-flag-operation/
During an interview with Newsmax Thursday, three-time presidential adviser Pat Buchanan joined the growing number of mainstream voices now specifically labeling the recent chemical attacks in Syria as a false flag.

“…First, this thing reeks of a false flag operation,” said Buchanan. “I would not understand or comprehend that Bashar al-Assad, no matter how bad a man he may be, would be so stupid as to order a chemical weapons attack on civilians in his own country when the immediate consequence of which might be that he would be at war with the United States. So this reeks of a false flag operation.”

www.storyleak.com/ron-paul-syria-chemical-attack-a-flase-flag/
During an interview on Fox Business’ Cavuto Wednesday, former Texas Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas) commented on the unfolding situation in Syria, specifically calling the recent chemical attack a ‘false flag’ likely carried out by the US backed Al Qaeda filled rebels.

“I think it’s a false flag…” said Paul. “Why don’t we ask about the Al Qaeda? Why are we on the side of the Al Qaeda right now?”
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“US Plan for Chemical Attack in Syria to Be Blamed on Assad” - Jan 29, 2013 Dailymail 02 Sep 2013 17:30 #165

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“US Plan for Chemical Attack in Syria to Be Blamed on Assad” - Jan 29, 2013 Dailymail 02 Sep 2013 18:38 #166

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Okay just watched ITN news on the Syria issue and the pro-war bias is ludicrous.

Deliberate falsehoods and blatant propaganda
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“US Plan for Chemical Attack in Syria to Be Blamed on Assad” - Jan 29, 2013 Dailymail 02 Sep 2013 21:14 #167

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Aye, the word 'independant' in the acronym ITN is laughable innit. Has been for quite a while.......
Sucking Globocorp cock and spitting the spunk out across the airwaves is all they do.
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“US Plan for Chemical Attack in Syria to Be Blamed on Assad” - Jan 29, 2013 Dailymail 03 Sep 2013 16:23 #168

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Sucking Globocorp cock and spitting the spunk out across the airwaves is all they do.

That was really quite beautiful. Would make for an excellent tagline for the network too...I might even buy a TV licence.
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“US Plan for Chemical Attack in Syria to Be Blamed on Assad” - Jan 29, 2013 Dailymail 03 Sep 2013 16:33 #169

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That was really quite beautiful. Would make for an excellent tagline for the network too...I might even buy a TV licence.
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“US Plan for Chemical Attack in Syria to Be Blamed on Assad” - Jan 29, 2013 Dailymail 03 Sep 2013 16:51 #171

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Rumours are circulating of Anglo American Funded Ziohadis ("Rebels"
Cisfor
) giving interviews of their anger at Bandar Bush for not telling them how to handle the Weapons correctly after a dozen "Rebels"
Cisfor
were killed in an accident in a tunnel.
Could be interesting.
It's mentioned towards the end of this interview.
https://www.corbettreport.com/mp3/2013-09-02%20Sharmine%20Narwani.mp3
https://www.corbettreport.com/interview-738-sharmine-narwani-on-the-geopolitics-of-the-syrian-war/
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“US Plan for Chemical Attack in Syria to Be Blamed on Assad” - Jan 29, 2013 Dailymail 03 Sep 2013 19:00 #172

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Where's dotty? I can only assume that he is busy ramping up the pressure on the Congressmen for next week...
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“US Plan for Chemical Attack in Syria to Be Blamed on Assad” - Jan 29, 2013 Dailymail 03 Sep 2013 19:51 #173

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https://www.mintpressnews.com/witnesses-of-gas-attack-say-saudis-supplied-rebels-with-chemical-weapons/168135/
"Ghouta, Syria — As the machinery for a U.S.-led military intervention in Syria gathers pace following last week’s chemical weapons attack, the U.S. and its allies may be targeting the wrong culprit.

Interviews with people in Damascus and Ghouta, a suburb of the Syrian capital, where the humanitarian agency Doctors Without Borders said at least 355 people had died last week from what it believed to be a neurotoxic agent, appear to indicate as much.

The U.S., Britain, and France as well as the Arab League have accused the regime of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad for carrying out the chemical weapons attack, which mainly targeted civilians. U.S. warships are stationed in the Mediterranean Sea to launch military strikes against Syria in punishment for carrying out a massive chemical weapons attack. The U.S. and others are not interested in examining any contrary evidence, with U.S Secretary of State John Kerry saying Monday that Assad’s guilt was “a judgment … already clear to the world.”

However, from numerous interviews with doctors, Ghouta residents, rebel fighters and their families, a different picture emerges. Many believe that certain rebels received chemical weapons via the Saudi intelligence chief, Prince Bandar bin Sultan, and were responsible for carrying out the dealing gas attack.

“My son came to me two weeks ago asking what I thought the weapons were that he had been asked to carry,” said Abu Abdel-Moneim, the father of a rebel fighting to unseat Assad, who lives in Ghouta.

Abdel-Moneim said his son and 12 other rebels were killed inside of a tunnel used to store weapons provided by a Saudi militant, known as Abu Ayesha, who was leading a fighting battalion. The father described the weapons as having a “tube-like structure” while others were like a “huge gas bottle.”

Ghouta townspeople said the rebels were using mosques and private houses to sleep while storing their weapons in tunnels.

Abdel-Moneim said his son and the others died during the chemical weapons attack. That same day, the militant group Jabhat al-Nusra, which is linked to al-Qaida, announced that it would similarly attack civilians in the Assad regime’s heartland of Latakia on Syria’s western coast, in purported retaliation.

“They didn’t tell us what these arms were or how to use them,” complained a female fighter named ‘K.’ “We didn’t know they were chemical weapons. We never imagined they were chemical weapons.”

“When Saudi Prince Bandar gives such weapons to people, he must give them to those who know how to handle and use them,” she warned. She, like other Syrians, do not want to use their full names for fear of retribution.

A well-known rebel leader in Ghouta named ‘J’ agreed. “Jabhat al-Nusra militants do not cooperate with other rebels, except with fighting on the ground. They do not share secret information. They merely used some ordinary rebels to carry and operate this material,” he said.

“We were very curious about these arms. And unfortunately, some of the fighters handled the weapons improperly and set off the explosions,” ‘J’ said.

Doctors who treated the chemical weapons attack victims cautioned interviewers to be careful about asking questions regarding who, exactly, was responsible for the deadly assault.

The humanitarian group Doctors Without Borders added that health workers aiding 3,600 patients also reported experiencing similar symptoms, including frothing at the mouth, respiratory distress, convulsions and blurry vision. The group has not been able to independently verify the information.

More than a dozen rebels interviewed reported that their salaries came from the Saudi government.



Saudi involvement
In a recent article for Business Insider, reporter Geoffrey Ingersoll highlighted Saudi Prince Bandar’s role in the two-and-a-half year Syrian civil war. Many observers believe Bandar, with his close ties to Washington, has been at the very heart of the push for war by the U.S. against Assad.


Ingersoll referred to an article in the U.K.’s Daily Telegraph about secret Russian-Saudi talks alleging that Bandar offered Russian President Vladimir Putin cheap oil in exchange for dumping Assad.

“Prince Bandar pledged to safeguard Russia’s naval base in Syria if the Assad regime is toppled, but he also hinted at Chechen terrorist attacks on Russia’s Winter Olympics in Sochi if there is no accord,” Ingersoll wrote.

“I can give you a guarantee to protect the Winter Olympics next year. The Chechen groups that threaten the security of the games are controlled by us,” Bandar allegedly told the Russians.

“Along with Saudi officials, the U.S. allegedly gave the Saudi intelligence chief the thumbs up to conduct these talks with Russia, which comes as no surprise,” Ingersoll wrote.

“Bandar is American-educated, both military and collegiate, served as a highly influential Saudi Ambassador to the U.S., and the CIA totally loves this guy,” he added.

According to U.K.’s Independent newspaper, it was Prince Bandar’s intelligence agency that first brought allegations of the use of sarin gas by the regime to the attention of Western allies in February.

The Wall Street Journal recently reported that the CIA realized Saudi Arabia was “serious” about toppling Assad when the Saudi king named Prince Bandar to lead the effort.

“They believed that Prince Bandar, a veteran of the diplomatic intrigues of Washington and the Arab world, could deliver what the CIA couldn’t: planeloads of money and arms, and, as one U.S. diplomat put it, wasta, Arabic for under-the-table clout,” it said.

Bandar has been advancing Saudi Arabia’s top foreign policy goal, WSJ reported, of defeating Assad and his Iranian and Hezbollah allies.

To that aim, Bandar worked Washington to back a program to arm and train rebels out of a planned military base in Jordan.

The newspaper reports that he met with the “uneasy Jordanians about such a base”:

His meetings in Amman with Jordan’s King Abdullah sometimes ran to eight hours in a single sitting. “The king would joke: ‘Oh, Bandar’s coming again? Let’s clear two days for the meeting,’ ” said a person familiar with the meetings.

Jordan’s financial dependence on Saudi Arabia may have given the Saudis strong leverage. An operations center in Jordan started going online in the summer of 2012, including an airstrip and warehouses for arms. Saudi-procured AK-47s and ammunition arrived, WSJ reported, citing Arab officials.

Although Saudi Arabia has officially maintained that it supported more moderate rebels, the newspaper reported that “funds and arms were being funneled to radicals on the side, simply to counter the influence of rival Islamists backed by Qatar.”

But rebels interviewed said Prince Bandar is referred to as “al-Habib” or ‘the lover’ by al-Qaida militants fighting in Syria.

Peter Oborne, writing in the Daily Telegraph on Thursday, has issued a word of caution about Washington’s rush to punish the Assad regime with so-called ‘limited’ strikes not meant to overthrow the Syrian leader but diminish his capacity to use chemical weapons:

Consider this: the only beneficiaries from the atrocity were the rebels, previously losing the war, who now have Britain and America ready to intervene on their side. While there seems to be little doubt that chemical weapons were used, there is doubt about who deployed them.

It is important to remember that Assad has been accused of using poison gas against civilians before. But on that occasion, Carla del Ponte, a U.N. commissioner on Syria, concluded that the rebels, not Assad, were probably responsible."
https://www.mintpressnews.com/witnesses-of-gas-attack-say-saudis-supplied-rebels-with-chemical-weapons/168135/

"“When Saudi Prince Bandar gives such weapons to people, he must give them to those who know how to handle and use them,” said one militant.

Another militant accused the Takfiri militants of the al-Qaeda-linked al-Nusra Front of refusing to cooperate with other insurgents or sharing secret information. “They merely used some ordinary rebels to carry and operate this material,” he said.

“We were very curious about these arms. And unfortunately, some of the fighters handled the weapons improperly and set off the explosions,” he added. "
https://www.presstv.ir/detail/2013/08/30/321260/syria-militants-use-saudisupplied-gas/

“They didn’t tell us what these arms were or how to use them. We didn’t know they were chemical weapons. We never imagined they were chemical weapons.”

"It's worth to mention AP did not adopt the report, so it was published via other websites."

https://www.almanar.com.lb/english/adetails.php?eid=108546&frid=31&seccatid=91&cid=31&fromval=1

"Dale Gavlak’s credibility is very impressive. He has been a Middle East correspondent for the Associated Press for two decades and has also worked for National Public Radio (NPR) and written articles for BBC News."

"The website on which the story originally appeared - Mint Press (which is currently down as a result of huge traffic it is attracting to the article) is a legitimate media organization based in Minnesota. The Minnesota Post did a profile on them last year.
Saudi Arabia’s alleged role in providing rebels, whom they have vehemently backed at every turn, with chemical weapons, is no surprise given the revelations earlier this week that the Saudis threatened Russia with terror attacks at next year’s Winter Olympics in Sochi unless they abandoned support for the Syrian President.
“I can give you a guarantee to protect the Winter Olympics next year. The Chechen groups that threaten the security of the games are controlled by us,” Prince Bandar allegedly told Vladimir Putin, the Telegraph reports."

https://www.infowars.com/rebels-admit-responsibility-for-chemical-weapons-attack/

"As-Safir said Prince Bandar pledged to safeguard Russia’s naval base in Syria if the Assad regime is toppled, but he also hinted at Chechen terrorist attacks on Russia’s Winter Olympics in Sochi if there is no accord. “I can give you a guarantee to protect the Winter Olympics next year. The Chechen groups that threaten the security of the games are controlled by us,” he allegedly said.
Prince Bandar went on to say that Chechens operating in Syria were a pressure tool that could be switched on an off. “These groups do not scare us. We use them in the face of the Syrian regime but they will have no role in Syria’s political future.”"

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/energy/oilandgas/10266957/Saudis-offer-Russia-secret-oil-deal-if-it-drops-Syria.html

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As soon as Putin finished his speech, Prince Bandar warned that in light of the course of the talks, things were likely to intensify, especially in the Syrian arena, although he appreciated the Russians’ understanding of Saudi Arabia’s position on Egypt and their readiness to support the Egyptian army despite their fears for Egypt's future.

The head of the Saudi intelligence services said that the dispute over the approach to the Syrian issue leads to the conclusion that “there is no escape from the military option, because it is the only currently available choice given that the political settlement ended in stalemate. We believe that the Geneva II Conference will be very difficult in light of this raging situation.”"
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-08-30/dont-show-obama-report-about-who-really-behind-syrian-chemical-attacks
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“US Plan for Chemical Attack in Syria to Be Blamed on Assad” - Jan 29, 2013 Dailymail 04 Sep 2013 14:59 #174

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Apparently John Kerry referenced this picture during his warmongering speech yesterday, whilst John McCain played poker on his iphone.
Photographer Marco di Lauro said he nearly 'fell off his chair', as the picture is from Iraq 2003.
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Space Bandit wrote:
Photographer Marco di Lauro said he nearly 'fell off his chair', as the picture is from Iraq 2003.


If it wasn't so fucking tragic, it would be funny.

Not the first time they've used old pictures either but they appear not to give a jolt.
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If it wasn't so fucking tragic, it would be funny.

Not the first time they've used old pictures either but they appear not to give a jolt.
This was actually the second time this photo had been used fraudulently. The first time was by the BBC:

www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2013/09...uns-Iraq-photo-Syria

This wasn't the first time that the BBC had been caught doing this:

whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/iranprop.php

You honestly couldn't make it up.
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You couldn't make this up either:



As soon as the cheque clears, we're going in:

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The BBC have today given one of their rare opportunities for folk to comment on the situation regarding the proposed bombing of Syria....
www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-23962304

Suffice to say that they probably didn't bargain for what they've got!

There is a very strong public voice in Britain on this subject. Perhaps the Brits are more clued up than I thought :dunno:
I wonder if things are quite the same in the US and France. Let's hope so eh and let's also hope that the public voice is as strong as it is here.
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Even with the strong public opposition, it won't make a blind bit of difference to whatever they've decided to do.
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Agreed, the US is a bit further down the totalitarian line than Britain. However, if the public voice is strong enough and the politicos realise as a result that their own livelihoods are at stake, who knows...
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