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TOPIC: “US Plan for Chemical Attack in Syria to Be Blamed on Assad” - Jan 29, 2013 Dailymail

“US Plan for Chemical Attack in Syria to Be Blamed on Assad” - Jan 29, 2013 Dailymail 11 Sep 2013 11:50 #281

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I call fake.
It goes wrong right from the covering letter opening imo.
The main letter too, just seems all wrong in so many ways.

That's what I thought too....
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This narrative of Kerry gaffe becomes plan is being pushed HARD.

Googling "putin offer syria timeline" resulted in 153 out of the first 160 news sites ll with the same article by Nick O' Mally

Syria timeline: how Kerry's gaffe became a plan

www.google.co.uk/search?client=opera&q=p...ia+timeline&start=90


Remarkable, in't it? :coffee:

And just who is this very popular journalist?

dailycollegian.com/author/nickomalley/

Could it be this guy? :chin:

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“US Plan for Chemical Attack in Syria to Be Blamed on Assad” - Jan 29, 2013 Dailymail 11 Sep 2013 21:10 #284

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Rose has attended several Bilderberg Group conference meetings, including meetings held in the United States in 2008;[19] Spain in 2010;[20] and Switzerland in 2011.[21]

www.bilderbergmeetings.org/participants_2011.html
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“US Plan for Chemical Attack in Syria to Be Blamed on Assad” - Jan 29, 2013 Dailymail 11 Sep 2013 22:05 #285

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mikey mikey wrote:
This narrative of Kerry gaffe becomes plan is being pushed HARD.

Googling "putin offer syria timeline" resulted in 153 out of the first 160 news sites ll with the same article by Nick O' Mally

Syria timeline: how Kerry's gaffe became a plan

www.google.co.uk/search?client=opera&q=p...ia+timeline&start=90


Remarkable, in't it? :coffee:

And just who is this very popular journalist?

dailycollegian.com/author/nickomalley/

Could it be this guy? :chin:


John Kerry and his gaffes.....hmmm :think:

Kerry Offers Apology To Troops - 2006
Sen. John F. Kerry (D-Mass.) issued two apologies for remarks that seemed to impugn U.S. troops and abandoned his public schedule yesterday, but he denounced what he called the "campaign of smear and fear" against him as the surreal sequel to the 2004 presidential election echoed across the campaign trail.

The White House and Republican allies orchestrated a cascade of denunciations throughout the day to keep the once and possibly future presidential candidate on the defensive and force other Democrats to distance themselves. Kerry canceled plans to appear with several candidates and returned home to avoid becoming "a distraction to these campaigns."

Republican strategists appeared almost gleeful over the contretemps because it revived a favorite target at a time they need to motivate core supporters to vote in Tuesday's midterm elections. GOP officials have tried to make the elections not a referendum on President Bush but a choice between two parties with competing visions over taxes, terrorism and Iraq, but they have struggled to find a symbol for Democrats. Kerry's comments have allowed Republicans to make him again the face of his party and cast 2006 as a rerun of Bush vs. Kerry.

Democrats were irritated to lose two days in the homestretch that they would rather have devoted to Bush's troubled Iraq policy, and they pressed Kerry to apologize and get out of sight. Hoping to change the subject, Democrats seized on comments by Bush, who told reporters he wants Vice President Cheney and Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld to remain in their jobs for the final two years of his administration.

To reassert their main message, Democrats planned a blitz of final-weekend television advertising assailing Bush for his management of the war; Republicans, meanwhile, poured more money into once-safe districts in a sign that the field of competitive races may still be expanding. Polls and strategists in both parties indicate that the Democrats are in position to win the House and are running neck-and-neck to take the Senate.

Republicans decided to make a last-minute bid to help save two GOP senators who had been almost given up for lost. Sens. Conrad Burns (Mont.) and Lincoln D. Chafee (R.I.) trail Democratic challengers but appear within striking distance, according to GOP strategists. Democrats need to all but sweep the most competitive Senate races to win control.

But much of the day's political conversation centered on Kerry. His return to the national spotlight provided a new opening to Republicans, who have been battered through much of the fall by the political fallout from the escalating violence in Iraq, the House page scandal and new corruption probes.

Speaking to an audience in California on Monday, Kerry said: "Education, if you make the most of it, you study hard, you do your homework and you make an effort to be smart, you can do well. And if you don't, you get stuck in Iraq."

Kerry said yesterday that he meant it as a dig at Bush, and his office released a copy of the prepared remarks he was supposed to deliver: "I can't overstress the importance of a great education. Do you know where you end up if you don't study, if you aren't smart, if you're intellectually lazy? You end up getting us stuck in a war in Iraq. Just ask President Bush."

Rejecting the explanation, Republicans quickly developed a Web ad demanding that he apologize and issued statement after statement attacking and mocking him. One released by House Majority Leader John A. Boehner (Ohio) included a picture that appeared to show soldiers in the desert holding up a banner: "Halp Us Jon Carry -- We R Stuck Hear N Irak."

Bush for the second day took aim at his old foe as well. "It didn't sound like a joke to me," he said in an interview with news services. In a separate interview with radio host Rush Limbaugh, Bush said, "Anybody who is in a position to serve this country ought to understand the consequences of words, and our troops deserve the full support of people in government."

Cheney also jumped into the fray, his office so eager that in a rare move it sent out advance excerpts from a speech given later in the day. "Senator Kerry said he was just making a joke and he botched it up," Cheney said. "I guess we didn't get the nuance. Actually, he was for the joke before he was against it."
www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/ar...AR2006110102513.html

Just when it was looking good he drops a gaffe and kinda fucks up his campaign. A massive stroke of luck for the boy-Bush.
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“US Plan for Chemical Attack in Syria to Be Blamed on Assad” - Jan 29, 2013 Dailymail 12 Sep 2013 02:19 #286

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Syrian chemical weapons: Russia hands disarmament plan to US
www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/11/sy...-kerry-sergey-lavrov
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“US Plan for Chemical Attack in Syria to Be Blamed on Assad” - Jan 29, 2013 Dailymail 12 Sep 2013 02:42 #287

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Putin about Syria

www.nytimes.com/2013/09/12/opinion/putin...a.html?src=twr&_r=3&
We are not protecting the Syrian government, but international law. We need to use the United Nations Security Council and believe that preserving law and order in today’s complex and turbulent world is one of the few ways to keep international relations from sliding into chaos. The law is still the law, and we must follow it whether we like it or not. Under current international law, force is permitted only in self-defense or by the decision of the Security Council. Anything else is unacceptable under the United Nations Charter and would constitute an act of aggression.

No one doubts that poison gas was used in Syria. But there is every reason to believe it was used not by the Syrian Army, but by opposition forces, to provoke intervention by their powerful foreign patrons, who would be siding with the fundamentalists. Reports that militants are preparing another attack — this time against Israel — cannot be ignored.

www.nytimes.com/2013/09/12/opinion/putin...a.html?src=twr&_r=3&
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“US Plan for Chemical Attack in Syria to Be Blamed on Assad” - Jan 29, 2013 Dailymail 12 Sep 2013 02:58 #288

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Thanks to Jasmine :cool:

A Wall Street Journal contributor whose article portraying the Syrian rebels as tail-wagging and housebroken rather than "dangerous" al Qaeda radicals has been fired from her position at the Institute for the Study of War for lying about having a PhD.

In addition to lying about having a PhD, the reporter, Elizabeth O'Bagy, also failed to disclose that she was a paid contractor for a lobbying group for the Syrian rebels, preferring to imply that her glowing depiction of them (according to her they defend Christian villages, submit to civil authority, and allow civilians to speak freely, among many other virtues) sprang from purely objective observation.

So enraptured were John Kerry and John McCain with this heartwarming account from a confirmed liar that John McCain read the liar's piece out loud to a Tuesday Senate hearing and the very next day John Kerry suggested that all members of Congress read the liar's piece.

So just to reiterate here. John Kerry and John McCain force-fed the Congress a highly flattering description of the Syrian rebels written by the director of a political organization which actively aids these rebels.


www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/11/elizab...tml?utm_hp_ref=media

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“US Plan for Chemical Attack in Syria to Be Blamed on Assad” - Jan 29, 2013 Dailymail 12 Sep 2013 09:38 #289

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mikey mikey wrote:
Thanks to Jasmine :cool:

A Wall Street Journal contributor whose article portraying the Syrian rebels as tail-wagging and housebroken rather than "dangerous" al Qaeda radicals has been fired from her position at the Institute for the Study of War for lying about having a PhD.

In addition to lying about having a PhD, the reporter, Elizabeth O'Bagy, also failed to disclose that she was a paid contractor for a lobbying group for the Syrian rebels, preferring to imply that her glowing depiction of them (according to her they defend Christian villages, submit to civil authority, and allow civilians to speak freely, among many other virtues) sprang from purely objective observation.

So enraptured were John Kerry and John McCain with this heartwarming account from a confirmed liar that John McCain read the liar's piece out loud to a Tuesday Senate hearing and the very next day John Kerry suggested that all members of Congress read the liar's piece.

So just to reiterate here. John Kerry and John McCain force-fed the Congress a highly flattering description of the Syrian rebels written by the director of a political organization which actively aids these rebels.


www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/11/elizab...tml?utm_hp_ref=media

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Aye deliberately planted and used.
It gets more and more obvious every day.
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“US Plan for Chemical Attack in Syria to Be Blamed on Assad” - Jan 29, 2013 Dailymail 12 Sep 2013 10:23 #290

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“US Plan for Chemical Attack in Syria to Be Blamed on Assad” - Jan 29, 2013 Dailymail 12 Sep 2013 12:16 #291

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little sweet generous ben ben wants to watch people burn. but to be fair, i'd like to see assad dead too, but im not pretending to be the pillsbury dough boy.
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“US Plan for Chemical Attack in Syria to Be Blamed on Assad” - Jan 29, 2013 Dailymail 12 Sep 2013 18:04 #292

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There's a lot of propaganda based shit on the BBC at the moment. The "in depth" analysis of Putin't letter to the Americans for example, is laughable....

But then we get stuff like this comment by Dina Esfandiary, research associate at the International Institute for Strategic Studies (IISS), in this article:
www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-24045429

"Once verified, the dismantling and destruction process begins. For safety and security, but also for logistical reasons, it would be better to move agents to fewer locations, ideally, all the way out of Syria. But moving chemical agents and weapons is extremely hazardous, all the more in a context of war. "

More hazardous than blowing them up with missiles where they currently lie? :roll:

Yes, you're probably right, Dina. When you hit them with missiles, the risk assessment is fairly easy. You just need to know a few bits of chemistry and then do a bit of maths to work out how many will die.
Moving them on the other hand would be much harder work for whoever does the risk assessment. After all, nothing could happen or some really bad stuff could happen. With many other possibilities in between that need assessing.
Dina has obviously spent some time doing RAs so fair play to her for thinking about the poor sod who'll have to do the one's for the destruction of Syria's CWs. :roll:
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“US Plan for Chemical Attack in Syria to Be Blamed on Assad” - Jan 29, 2013 Dailymail 12 Sep 2013 18:29 #293

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knobmeup wrote:
There's a lot of propaganda based shit on the BBC at the moment.

Yep

Another BBC lying moment on this



Today the BBC interveiwed an "expert" from The Economist about Putin's letter to America in the NYT, unchallenged our expert declares Putin a hypocrite for positioning himself as defender of the UN and international law, the expert said the reason the UN gets undermined is Russia because "it keeps using it's veto out of spiteful anti-westernism", in fact since the collapse of the USSR in 1991 Russia has used it's veto 7 times, half as many as the US which used it 14 times. Of the 14 American vetos 13 were to protect Israel, one to prevent US troops being subjected to the International Criminal Court. Russia used it's veto twice against attempts to downgrade and terminate the UN peacekeeping mission in Cyprus, once to protect Burma, once on Bosnia, against extending UN observers in Georgia, and another protecting Zimbabwe from censure, and the recent one on Syria


Thanks to beltaine fox

www.globalpolicy.org/component/content/article/102/40069.html
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“US Plan for Chemical Attack in Syria to Be Blamed on Assad” - Jan 29, 2013 Dailymail 13 Sep 2013 16:06 #294

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Syrian rebel fighters on Thursday said President Bashar Assad’s regime has unleashed a second chemical weapon attack in the same Damascus region as the first, Israeli media reported.
The Times of Israel said the accusation came from rebel sources, claiming chemical weapons were used in an attack in the neighborhood of Jobar.

www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/sep/12...ical-/#ixzz2ek7m88j6

So, the rebels are refusing to go along with the deal the Russians are trying to broker of Assad giving up his weapons, but the rebels are saying they have been attacked again!!!! What a load of trollocks!
Sounds like tear gas to me, and I can't find any video footage of said attack anywhere! Quel suprise!
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thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2013/09...sive_chemical_attack
U.N. inspectors have collected a "wealth" of evidence on the use of nerve agents that points to Syrian President Bashar al-Assad using chemical weapons against his own people, according to a senior Western official.
The U.N. team, which is led by the Swedish scientist Ake Sellström, traveled to Damascus last month to begin an investigation into the alleged use of chemical weapons. During that trip, according to the United States and other Western powers, Syrian forces launched a chemical weapons attack that killed more than 1,400 people in the al Ghouta suburb of Damascus.

A montage of video clips posted by Samantha Power, the U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, on her Twitter page depicted horrific scenes of purported victims writhing in agony, and gasping for breath. Rows of dead children, their faces blue from apparent suffocation, were lined up in morbid rows, white sheets covering their tiny bodies.

So who is this chief inspector is Ake Sellström, being the same inspector who "found' CW in Iraq.

Watch the call for a new "vote"in the UK and a new push from the US to rubber stamp their *ahem* intervention.

You have to love how "circumstantial evidence" is now "proof".
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“US Plan for Chemical Attack in Syria to Be Blamed on Assad” - Jan 29, 2013 Dailymail 13 Sep 2013 16:32 #296

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Today the BBC interveiwed an "expert" from The Economist


Economist



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Hilarious stuff, so in your face innit.
Its like the lass 'twerking' her bf's face lol.
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I just want to apologise to you all for putting thatchers face up again.
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Sounds like tear gas to me, and I can't find any video footage of said attack anywhere! Quel suprise!
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Tear gas is considered to be a chemical weapon, unless the police use it on their own populace, it's illegal to use as a weapon against another nation.

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