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Which conspiracy sites most value the truth? 15 May 2013 06:23 #1

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It may seem a ridiculous question, as virtually all conspiracy sites promote themselves as being "truth seekers" etc. However, I've received feedback that many of them have been compromised and are actually administered by those less interested in the truth being revealed.

In an experiment, I suggested people post a question to their favourite conspiracy sites enquiring whether they would be interested in publishing an exposé of the amount of deception that is utilised in the conspiracy movement. The feedback I received was that a few admitted the infiltration of deceptive practices but (much like the attitude of the Catholic church over the years) felt it better not to publicise this. Other sites were more dramatic however. One (wariscrime) even banning the poster from accessing their web site at all. On every web site approached (that I've heard about) the question was removed from the comments section (when that was an option) and sometimes even the poster's previous comments were removed as well.

So back to my question, does anyone know of a good conspiracy site who actually wants to expose the truth rather than just protect the business of conspiracies?
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Which conspiracy sites most value the truth? 15 May 2013 07:12 #2

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As long as it's not just wild speculation and links, evidence, etc. can be provided then knock yourself out...
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Which conspiracy sites most value the truth? 15 May 2013 11:53 #3

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Most conspiracy forums/sites i have come across are promoting 'their' version of 'truth' and dissent is not something that is tolerated. icke for example is all about promoting 'brand icke' - the same can be said of any forum with a 'figurehead' - forums that are created under a 'banner topic' whether it be about alternative medicines or 911 or freemanism also tend to only be interested in furthering their version of what constitutes the 'truth'.

Skeptic sites similarly are only really interested in promoting their versions of the 'truth'

Forums and sites of any nature are going to be more interested in promulgating their 'truth' and likely to attract predominantly people who are already predisposed to believe that which the website promotes or they would not have gone there. Though you will get people who deliberately sign up to places to argue an alternative viewpoint for shits and giggles.

There are sites out there that are much more tolerant of a wide range of views and are not attempting to promote only 'one truth' but more often then not they hurt my eyes or turn into a free for all of abuse.

My personal opinion is that if someone has already made up their mind as to what the 'truth' is, unless they go to a site where the majority agree with that view they will believe that there is some sort of nefarious cover up to stop the 'truth' getting out.

I accepted long ago that we will never fully know the 'truth' about anything being as most of our sources of 'truths' come with their own bias and interpretation and are more often then not 2nd or 3rd hand.
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Which conspiracy sites most value the truth? 15 May 2013 12:37 #4

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Deep Politics Forum
ISGP or PEHI whatever it's called nowadays it's hosted on Wikispooks which I'd call pretty inane in general.
Skilluminati.

Those three are the only decent conspiracy websites I'm aware of.
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Which conspiracy sites most value the truth? 15 May 2013 13:49 #5

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Just to clarify, I wasn't meaning in a forum. I'm wanting to place it somewhere people will actually encounter it, like in the comments section of a main story – or best of all, posting an article on the home page of some site who really wants people to open their eyes and realise they are being deceived, even though it could possibly make a lot of followers lose faith in the whole conspiracy movement.

You see, there is a theory (complete with links, evidence etc) that the leaders of the conspiracy movement (e.g. David Icke, Alex Jones etc) are in fact agents of the Illuminati and are attempting to bring about the NWO that they pretend to be fighting.

Everyone here already knows that (for example) the DIF is a bastion for censorship, and by any definition the blueprint for a police state. What many people don't realise (because their mind is closed) is that all the main conspiracy sites promote false information and work together to effectively suppress any damaging information about them being released.

So I'm trying to find a single (popular) one which is not afraid to upset the cabal behind the conspiracy industry and publish a hard hitting exposé of the corruption which is rife within them.
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Which conspiracy sites most value the truth? 15 May 2013 13:50 #6

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Mike wrote:
Deep Politics Forum
ISGP or PEHI whatever it's called nowadays it's hosted on Wikispooks which I'd call pretty inane in general.
Skilluminati.

Those three are the only decent conspiracy websites I'm aware of.
Thanks. I'll make an effort to check them out.
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Which conspiracy sites most value the truth? 15 May 2013 13:53 #7

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Mike wrote:
Deep Politics Forum
ISGP or PEHI whatever it's called nowadays it's hosted on Wikispooks which I'd call pretty inane in general.
Skilluminati.

Those three are the only decent conspiracy websites I'm aware of.

So they fullfill your list of requirements?
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Which conspiracy sites most value the truth? 15 May 2013 13:56 #8

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They have accurate historical analysis you don't get elsewhere.

Reflex have you got this document?

I'm working on one of a similar nature at the moment, I was thinking of starting a FB group or blog and spreading it on Conspiracy websites that way, that might be a good way of doing it.?
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Which conspiracy sites most value the truth? 15 May 2013 14:00 #9

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Mike wrote:
They have accurate historical analysis you don't get elsewhere.

Yes but what I meant was, do they give you a good thrashing when you stamp your feet and demand it?
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Which conspiracy sites most value the truth? 15 May 2013 14:08 #10

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psketti wrote:
Mike wrote:
They have accurate historical analysis you don't get elsewhere.
Here will never be as good
That's fine. :cheers:
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Which conspiracy sites most value the truth? 15 May 2013 14:11 #11

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reflex wrote:

So I'm trying to find a single (popular) one which is not afraid to upset the cabal behind the conspiracy industry and publish a hard hitting exposé of the corruption which is rife within them.

If it's that "hard hitting" I'm sure it will get the attention it deserves regardless of where it is posted.
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Which conspiracy sites most value the truth? 15 May 2013 14:18 #12

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Mike wrote:
psketti wrote:
Mike wrote:
They have accurate historical analysis you don't get elsewhere.
Here will never be as good
That's fine. :cheers:

And we claimed to be when?

You're losing your touch mate. It's sad.
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Which conspiracy sites most value the truth? 15 May 2013 14:24 #13

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psketti wrote:
Mike wrote:
psketti wrote:
Mike wrote:
They have accurate historical analysis you don't get elsewhere.
Here will never be as good
That's fine. :cheers:

And we claimed to be when?

You're losing your touch mate. It's sad.
What is your point?
Do you really think I made a deal about the shite moderation here for my own interests?
If you do you'd be wrong, I'm not the only one here who's complained, I make the biggest deal over it perhaps, but I could name at least 2 other posters who've complained about the lack of moderation.

I notice you deleted some of my posts, and some of Goldensun and John Drake's after Thor requested it, just more evidence of the favouritism and double standards in play here, you've basically admitted as much, you won't moderate any of my threads because you think it's funny when andyh and co derail them, thus I think you're useless deluded cnuts.
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Which conspiracy sites most value the truth? 15 May 2013 14:26 #14

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oioioi wrote:
reflex wrote:

So I'm trying to find a single (popular) one which is not afraid to upset the cabal behind the conspiracy industry and publish a hard hitting exposé of the corruption which is rife within them.

If it's that "hard hitting" I'm sure it will get the attention it deserves regardless of where it is posted.

Typical unhelpful abrasive bullshit from this one. :roll:
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Which conspiracy sites most value the truth? 15 May 2013 14:30 #15

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Which conspiracy sites most value the truth? 15 May 2013 14:31 #16

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Mike wrote:
I'm working on one of a similar nature at the moment, I was thinking of starting a FB group or blog and spreading it on Conspiracy websites that way, that might be a good way of doing it.?

fyi, members can publish articles on this site if they like, they just need their permissions bumped by an admin. Example...

sanctumzone.co.uk/news-blogs/members-blogs.html

^ you click the title of each article and it takes you to its standalone page.

admittedly it could do with some fine tuning of the aesthetics... truth zone has been sorted a little better perhaps with the headings and a few other little things but anything done there can be applied here easily, another example...

truth-zone.co.uk/articles/article-catego...eneral-articles.html

A reader comments feature also exists.

This site can be much more than a forum, its a news and article publishing template essentially... the forum is just an add on.

This is another example of this sites template...

demo.gavick.com/joomla25/twn2/
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Which conspiracy sites most value the truth? 15 May 2013 14:31 #17

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Mike wrote:
What is your point?
Do you really think I made a deal about the shite moderation here for my own interests?
If you do you'd be wrong, I'm not the only one here who's complained...

No, you fall into a very specific bracket of people who seem somewhat fixated with this sites 'moderation' and demanding it comes down heavier on you for your posting style.
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Which conspiracy sites most value the truth? 15 May 2013 14:35 #18

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Nope, in true form you're misrepresenting what i want, just that Forum facilitators intervene before every single thread turns into a 10 page derail, by moderating or at least verbally warning against continuous off topic posts, attempts to derail etc.

But you'd rather keep trying to misrepresent me like you do with Communism/Socialism so you never have to try and understand me.
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Which conspiracy sites most value the truth? 15 May 2013 14:41 #19

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Nope, in true form you're misrepresenting what i want, just that Forum facilitators intervene before every single thread turns into a 10 page derail, by moderating or at least verbally warning against continuous off topic posts, attempts to derail etc.

But you'd rather keep trying to misrepresent me like you do with Communism/Socialism so you never have to try and understand me.

And that'll be why you have taken full advantage of the link I created in my sig to cater for such matters instead of derailing threads whinging about threads being derailed..........oh wait!

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Which conspiracy sites most value the truth? 15 May 2013 14:48 #20

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Mike wrote:
Do you really think I made a deal about the shite moderation here for my own interests?

Absolutely not.

I notice you deleted some of my posts, and some of Goldensun and John Drake's after Thor requested it,


I edited yours for being a homophobic prick and goldenarses for being a racist twat. Show me where I edited drakes....
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