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Re: Hospitals to be closed if they don't meet 'standards' 28 Jun 2012 16:29 #21

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The whole world revolves around money.
As long as we continue to outsource the issuance of money at interest and as long as we continue to work for 'profit' then this silly situation will continue.

It will take incredible mass willpower to change this false reality.

Meanwhile governments cut back and back to make sure the banks can balance numbers on screens, further indebting humanity for literally CENTURIES to come while they try and fill this black hole with yet more debt that they could have cancelled in the first place.
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I weep at it at times...I really do.
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Re: Hospitals to be closed if they don't meet 'standards' 28 Jun 2012 16:57 #22

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It is worrying and sad.

Thankfully the NHS hasn't been affected to the same degree in Scotland, so far, anyway

The NHS is one thing I think is good in this country, if 'they' destroy that too I think you'll have a lot of people rebelling
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Re: Hospitals to be closed if they don't meet 'standards' 28 Jun 2012 17:54 #23

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It's a good year for them to dismantle the NHS, the Jubilee and London Olympics can get plenty of news coverage while the real shit is going down.
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Re: Hospitals to be closed if they don't meet 'standards' 28 Jun 2012 18:49 #24

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dogsmilk wrote:
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Hospitals were alot cleaner 60 years ago. When we had the matrons they made sure wards were clean right old battle axes but did a good job.

When my dad was in hospital a couple of years back he got really upset that the guy in the next bed next to him kept ringing the buzzer, nobody came and so he pissed himself. When the nurse turned up, she said the next shift would be changing the sheets anyway and left the guy to lie in his own piss for an hour. My dad had just had a stroke (as had the other guy, he'd had a worse one) and didn't exactly feel up to kicking up a stink about it.

that is disgusting but not 'shocking'. unfortunately.

i am desperately trying to get back into nursing but the goal posts keep changing. even when i did it briefly in 1996, i wondered that a mistake was getting too academic in the push to get nursing accepted as a profession rather than a vocation. In doing so, i feel a lot of naturally caring potential nurses were refused because they did not/do not make the academic grade. I was quite dismayed at the tude of my fellow student nurses....snotty up themselves bitches who thought the healthcare assistants were jus 'carers' to do the brunt of the shit jobs (infact these HCA's took over State Enrolled Nurses more or less but on less pay or acknowledgement)

my friend has been in hospital and was nearly dead....raced down to 'say goodbye' and arrived to see she was just ignored with a dry mouth and had never been washed or checked upon. Reiki'ed her up and she came round, and i sorted out her dry mouth and face....now shes kicking off on the wards because of the lack of care standard :D ....she said its quite funny to see the lazy 'its not my job' bastards running around pandering because yes, she was gunna complain and make a fucking stink about it

and yet when youre sat in the interviews for these nhs jobs, you are expected to pitch in with your ward team in order to deliver a high standard of care...which i certainly do not have a problem with...its how it should be :)
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Re: Hospitals to be closed if they don't meet 'standards' 28 Jun 2012 18:54 #25

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On the other hand I had a really positive NHS experience last year. I went for major surgery at Cheltenham General and in spite of the circumstances I had a really nice stay. All of the staff were friendly and helpful, even the tea boy gave out as many packets of biscuits as you wanted - more actually.

Then again, Cheltenham is a posh place, why is it that NHS hospitals in posh places are always the good ones?
Last Edit: 28 Jun 2012 18:56 by LesleyPumpshaft.
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Re: Hospitals to be closed if they don't meet 'standards' 28 Jun 2012 18:55 #26

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Sorry, just quoted and duplicated my post :emb:
Last Edit: 28 Jun 2012 18:55 by LesleyPumpshaft.
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Re: Hospitals to be closed if they don't meet 'standards' 28 Jun 2012 18:56 #27

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Ab Origine wrote:

...I'm not down-playing the fantastic work that goes on in any way, but it has to be said that the condition of our health service is like it is by design. Of this, I'm fairly confident. It's not about money, which really bugs some people, hence the state its in at the moment...

It's heart-breaking that your Gran passed away in fear of the people who should have been stood by to help. I agree that there are real angels working within the NHS, who do a tremendous job.

But I'm with you on this. Things couldn't have got this bad without it having been deliberately engineered that way. I think the funds expended in hospitals seem to be split in an insane way, with the lion's share going into admin instead of genuinely useful resources, like equipment and nursing staff. That's not just had an unacceptable effect on patients, but also a detrimental impact on the nurses, who seem to run themselves ragged, while dozens of pen-pushers stand around whinging that they're busy, whilst seeming to actually do very little.
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Re: Hospitals to be closed if they don't meet 'standards' 28 Jun 2012 19:02 #28

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Gilly wrote:

It's heart-breaking that your Gran passed away in fear of the people who should have been stood by to help. I agree that there are real angels working within the NHS, who do a tremendous job.

But I'm with you on this. Things couldn't have got this bad without it having been deliberately engineered that way. I think the funds expended in hospitals seem to be split in an insane way, with the lion's share going into admin instead of genuinely useful resources, like equipment and nursing staff. That's not just had an unacceptable effect on patients, but also a detrimental impact on the nurses, who seem to run themselves ragged, while dozens of pen-pushers stand around whinging that they're busy, whilst seeming to actually do very little.

i also fear that it is deliberate. A friends daughter who was a student nurse was asked to leave the course because she was (wait for it) ....too caring

it is an institution that no government wants but plenty of private investors do...my local hospital fancy upgrade and refurbs have been funed by private companies, who then get paid back by the government.....i wouldnt be surprised if this happens elsewhere
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Re: Hospitals to be closed if they don't meet 'standards' 28 Jun 2012 19:07 #29

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well I can only speak from my experience and the NHS up here have been great...I could'nt fault them .

It is not the NHS that is at fault it's the people who want to turn it into a business and erode what it actually stands for are at fault .
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Re: Hospitals to be closed if they don't meet 'standards' 28 Jun 2012 19:20 #30

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wildhorse wrote:

i also fear that it is deliberate. A friends daughter who was a student nurse was asked to leave the course because she was (wait for it) ....too caring

it is an institution that no government wants but plenty of private investors do...my local hospital fancy upgrade and refurbs have been funed by private companies, who then get paid back by the government.....i wouldnt be surprised if this happens elsewhere

Too caring? WTF?

When you see a doctor, consultant or nurse the bedside manner is a huge part of the job they do. It makes one hell of a difference.
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Re: Hospitals to be closed if they don't meet 'standards' 28 Jun 2012 19:23 #31

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Satan's cock! They want people who don't care!?! They must be scared that people with passion will rock the boat.
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Re: Hospitals to be closed if they don't meet 'standards' 28 Jun 2012 19:24 #32

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There is a simple factor being overlooked here.
If a private company can run a hospital at a profit why can't you run it without loss?

That is a entirely a management issue and you have the wrong managers.
Sack them and get better ones.

See also most public service sectors.
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Re: Hospitals to be closed if they don't meet 'standards' 29 Jun 2012 03:29 #33

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whoever said we can make a profit out of healthcare shouldve been strung up ,
every bloody day kids adults alike turn to charities for help ,
a kid dependant on someone raising cash by running the fucking sahara or some shit
that requires a support team flights etc that probably the same as the treatment is somehow a humane way of treating illness ?

what next workfare scheme for bloody antibiotics when youve a sore throat
this gov could sell us anything and make us
shrug it off as fair enough works in america
well no it doesnt remember how on tv americans had white perfect teeth and poked fun us brits with bad teeth ?
what a lie that turned out to be as we saw more american reality tv and witnessed reality for ourselves , the die hards refusing to accept reality still carru a chip around vote labour or tory and watch ovee produced tv with unrealistic chracters and distorted visions of the world .
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