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vaccination's for pregnant women for whooping cough 29 Sep 2012 12:15 #1

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Who in their right minds would think about vaccanicating an unborn baby?

I acknowledge that whooping cough has made re surange ...........but injecting babies before they are even born with vaccaines is wrong
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Re: vaccination's for pregnant women for whooping cough 29 Sep 2012 15:16 #2

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Do you have a link regarding this, Dawn? I don't know that much about vaccinations as I don't have kids, and avoid them myself. Also I'm not a woman and not currently pregnant!
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Re: vaccination's for pregnant women for whooping cough 29 Sep 2012 15:48 #3

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Had a friend I recently acted as doula for... she wanted the vaccine for whooping cough before she gave birth and was told no, that she had to wait until after baby was born.
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Re: vaccination's for pregnant women for whooping cough 29 Sep 2012 17:39 #4

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wake_up_bomb wrote:
Do you have a link regarding this, Dawn? I don't know that much about vaccinations as I don't have kids, and avoid

them myself. Also I'm not a woman and not currently pregnant!

It's being pushed big time at the moment WUBs ....I think it has made the news too (both tv and written print)

There is definately an increase in whooping cough this year. Confirmed cases have risen from 1000 in 2011 to 4000+ in 2012 but they 'the govt' now want to give pregnant mothers vaccanies for whooping cough?

That just feels all kinds of wrong to me
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Re: vaccination's for pregnant women for whooping cough 29 Sep 2012 18:15 #5

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You can always rely on the Beeb, can't you?
Whooping cough vaccine a 'no-brainer' during pregnancy

Women are understandably risk-averse during pregnancy and are advised to avoid all medication if possible. Now they are being offered a four-in-one vaccine to protect against whooping cough.

So what are the potential benefits and are there any risks?

For the Chief Medical Officer, Prof Dame Sally Davies, the evidence is overwhelming: "It's a no-brainer. We have to do it."

Certainly the threat to infants is clear with nine deaths this year. Many more have been hospitalised, taking months to recover. The bacterial infection, also known as pertussis, can cause coughing fits, followed by a characteristic 'whoop' sound in young children as they struggle to breathe. It can lead to pneumonia and a range of complications in young babies. Treatment may involve weeks on a ventilator.

Full article is here:

www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-19751209
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Re: vaccination's for pregnant women for whooping cough 29 Sep 2012 21:00 #6

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Acel-P Pertussis

Manufacturer Wyeth-Ayerst
Microorganism The bacterial toxin of B. pertussis
Licensed New product in 2001, original license 1996
Recommendations 3 i.m. injections at 0, 6, 12 weeks (but not more than 10 weeks) in children 15 months to 6 years of age
Ingredients Aluminum hydroxide, Gelatin, Polysorbate 80, Thimerosal, Pertussis toxin, Filamentous hemagglutinin (FHA), Aluminum phosphate.
Product Descriptions

Corporate package insert: www.vran.org/vaccines/dpt/dptr-acelp-wyeth-98-to-01.htm
www.novaccine.com/specific-vaccines/vaccine.asp?v_id=25


Nice healthy dosage of corporate witchcraft.... but note there is no recommendation for pregnant women/unborns... yet.
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Re: vaccination's for pregnant women for whooping cough 29 Sep 2012 21:05 #7

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9 deaths? Sheesh....do they have a vaccine against chavs, bankers and politicians?
I'm pretty sure the death tally there ranks way higher than 9.
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Re: vaccination's for pregnant women for whooping cough 29 Sep 2012 21:51 #8

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The saddest part is that Whooping Cough (and other diseases, such at t.b.) are making a strong come-back because they are evident diseases of POVERTY.

But forget putting poverty right... just create a jab that supposedly lets a child/parent survive an ailment but live on in miserable poverty.

The trouble that is being stored for the future doesn't bear thinking about.

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Re: vaccination's for pregnant women for whooping cough 29 Sep 2012 21:57 #9

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andyh wrote:
9 deaths? Sheesh....do they have a vaccine against chavs, bankers and politicians?
I'm pretty sure the death tally there ranks way higher than 9.

Depopulation agenda!
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Re: vaccination's for pregnant women for whooping cough 29 Sep 2012 22:27 #10

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I had whooping cough a few years back, as did my elderly (don't tell her I said that) mother, my son was obviously exposed but didn't catch it. It may have been a mild case, but I don't see why it is not manageable for the healthy population. Yeah, it sucked...yes every time I coughed my eyes felt like they were gonna pop out of my head...yeah it hurt...but it was manageable. You get stronger and more resilient strains of any virus/infection/disease when you start combining it with other substances (both natural and man made).

It kind of goes along the lines of the chicken pox vaccine. I had the CP as a kid, all my siblings had it as kids, everyone I know had it as kids...we survived just fine, we got itchy red spots all over and ended up with an immunity that lasts to it. Now they are coming out with the vaccine for it, it's on the rise (one case in a school is now considered an outbreak :facepalm: )...and older people, who trust their doctors, are getting the vaccine, thus bringing on outbreaks in the herpes virus and resulting in more resilient strains and killing people.

I'm sure you see where I am going with this, this vaccine is being pushed, cases are on the rise...maybe not because of poverty and it just making its rounds, but because they are introducing it to the population again, and more than likely in a stronger form, or mutated form, because of anything it is mixed with. Our bodies are made to build immunities over time, not to be assaulted by dozens at a time and more than likely mutated versions of it because some scientist decided to mix it with 10 others things that shouldn't be in there to begin with.
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