G'day.

Here's a couple of great videos put together by David Talbott and Wallace Thornhill. They have a website as well, which is here ... www.thunderbolts.info/wp/ ... if you're only interested in watching one of them, I suggest Symbols Of An Alien Sky.

I AM ALL I AM wrote:
Oh, come on. He has made many farfetched conclusions. I have made a post on DI forum where I showed what mythology said and how his conclusions were farfetched. If he was so careless in several issues, I wouldn't trust him at all. Another new age quick buck catcher.

ftil wrote:
G'day Ftil.

Maybe it would be worthwhile you providing a link to this thread/post that you mention, or even repost it here. At least then I could respond to the information that you provided instead of the opinion that you have posted.

I'd actually be very interested in your reasoning to dismiss the findings based on plasma science that is presented in the documentaries.

Perhaps you could also explain how the information in the documentary has anything to do with the 'New Age' movement.

As to "what mythology said", have you looked into Joseph Campbell and his work relating to the mono-myth ?

I AM ALL I AM wrote:

You may go to DI forum. I don’t go there any more. I don’t remember the exact title but it was about Saturn and I wrote it last year.

Well, it was not my reasoning. I took his several quotes and presented what ancient historians said. His conclusions about Peruses and Hercules were also hilarious and I posted ancient artifacts so that people could see with own eyes.

Joseph Campbell? Forget it. I brought his 4 volumes of The Masks of God and a few videos from library. I was laughing out loud when I was watching his interpretation of Mystery religions. People don’t need to be a scholar to see faulty interpretation. Second, I looked at his books and he doesn’t provide specific references so that I could check. I prefer scholars work and ancient historians. I didn’t even want to waste my time to read what scholars wrote about Campbell's work. Well, his work was criticized by a professor, an expert on Hindu religion.

ftil wrote:
G'day Ftil.
ftil wrote:
The ONLY reason that I have gone to the DI f for years now is IF a link has been provided for me, or IF I was searching for some information that I had posted while there. So while I am aware that I CAN go to the DI f any time that I choose to, I have CHOSEN not to go there.

That you "don't go there any more", yet expect me to go searching for some obscure post that you cannot even remember where you posted it "last year" sometime is a tad hypocritical and merely demonstrates that you are not willing to support the opinion that you have posted on this thread.

Do you expect me and other forum members to simply accept your opinion without any confirming facts to back it up ?
ftil wrote:
If it isn't your reasoning, who's is it ?

By stating "ancient historians" you are being vague.

Yet you haven't posted anything here "so that people could see with own eyes" except your opinion.
ftil wrote:
Why should I "Forget it" ?

Because you tell me to ?

Personally, I prefer remembering to forgetting. What you decide for yourself, whether to remember or to forget is your choice.
ftil wrote:
Laughter is beneficial for the physicality because of the endorphins that are released throughout it. Apart from that, I am wondering why you have related such in your post.
ftil wrote:
I agree 100%.

This is why, if you'll notice, that I haven't presented any "interpretation" of the information presented within the documentaries ... I simply recommended them as worthwhile watching and come to their own conclusions.
ftil wrote:
That's interesting that you state that. The book, "The Hero With A Thousand Faces" has a 19 page bibliography, which includes 12 pages of 'Primary Sources', as well as 'Journal Articles' and 'Canonical Works And Religious Scriptures', which incidently range from Hinduism to Judaism.

While it is a wikipedia article, perhaps you could have a peruse of it to recognise that indeed Joseph Campbell was a scholar, as well as a lecturer of comparative theology and comparative religion.

Again with the vague "ancient historians". Does being "ancient" make them somehow superior ?

Interesting that you state an unnamed "professor" who "criticized" Campbell's work, with no links to support such an assertion, and also claim that such an unnamed professor is "an expert on Hindu religion". Are you willing to support such a claim with references, links, etc ?

No it is not some obscure post. I told that the little of the thread was about Saturn and I am sure that there are not that many threads with that title. If you really want to find out, it would not take that long. I think that it was posted in symbolism section but you have a search engine. You could also look at my posts. But you want me to waste my time to serve you on a silver plate. No thanks no

I don’t need to support my opinion and can do it as I have it on my blog but I refuse to post it here. I have done my job and I posted it on DI forum. Think whatever you want and you may believe plasma theory. It is not my business. I know that it is BS.



Well, I was very clear when I said a specific reference that I can go and check. I thought that you know what I meant and if you wrote a thesis you wouldn't ask that silly question.
BTW, Z Sitchin has also provided a reference list without specific references.

You are kidding aren’t you? I could go to my blog and look at my materials and spent couple of hours to post all historians or scholars whose work I used but do you really think that I am going to do it? Stop behaving like a child but pretending that you can think like mature person.

It is not that hard to find who he was but you want me to waste my time to provide everything for you. Use your brain and sharpen critical thinking. When you do your own research rather than depending on pseudo scholars, you will only benefit. That's for sure.
I have not time for that kind of conversation. I was in elementary school but not any more.

ftil wrote:

I AM ALL I AM wrote:

ftil wrote:

I AM ALL I AM wrote:

ftil wrote:

I'm about half way through Thunderbolts of the Gods. It's intriguing material so far. Symbolism itself is interesting, as it was used to explain a concept, idea, ideal, or series of historically important events. It's simplistic, and that's what makes it so useful. It crosses language barriers. Mythology works in a similar way by breaking down concepts into mental imagery that people from all walks of life can comprehend. I don't find it far fetched that the ancients may have witnessed awe-inspiring astrological events, and transcribed them metaphorically through mythology and religious texts. There was most certainly a fixation on the cosmos. So much so that they began to make terrestrial representations. I'm interested in hearing how these folks interpret that.

Mrindigo wrote:
Form is merely a momen­tary man­i­fes­ta­tion of being, not a fixed real­ity.

His­tory doesn’t repeat itself, unin­formed peo­ple repeat his­tory.

G'day Mrindigo.

Firstly, I love the two above quotes that you have in your signature.

The whole concept that is presented fits in with a lot of other material, especially this ...



... which makes a lot of sense when we consider that everything in life grows, and as the galaxy we inhabit is part of life, then it is logical that it would also grow. Considering that it has also been shown that the moon is moving away from the earth, then the idea that the planets were once closer together than they are now shouldn't be 'hard to swallow'.

A lot of mythology can be seen to hold astrological significance. Some of this can be seen in this thread ...

OPHIUCHUS - The Thirteenth Astrological Star Sign
https://www.infinite-love-forum.com/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=976

... which correlates mythology from all over the world with Ophiuchus (the snake-holder), which is the Serpens constellation, with one of it's main features being the Eagle nebula. Both snake and eagle symbology abound to this day, with the caduceus staff of Asclepius (who was placed in the Serpens constellation by Apollo) used as the symbol for medicine (though it also linked with Hermes by the Greeks, which is their version of the Egyptian god Thoth), to the eagle being used from the Nazi's to the American seal.

If you are interested "terrestrial representations", there's some great information presented in this documentary ...



... which presents some amazing information, some of which is the astrological significance of the Giza pyramids and the sphinx.

Anyway, thanks for your reply and I look forward to discussing your ideas/thoughts about both documentaries.

Hi there I am all I am.

Thank you, I'm glad you appreciate the quotes. I feel I should express my appreciation for your avatar and screen name. They're very much in synch with this type of material.

I have read a little on the expanding Earth theory, though I'm not well versed in it. It is true that everything grows, from the smallest microbe to the expanding universe. I don't think it's far fetched to think that the planet may be expanding. I do feel like I need to research the topic more before I can make an informed decision though. I will note an interesting little feature of the moon which may coincide the expansion theory. There are various striations on the lunar surface from a point when it's mass was more expansive. Some theorize that they're left over stretch marks which indicate a formally active core. The inactive core would in theory stop expansion, and thus shrink some.

I've skimmed some of the thread you created on IL. I like what you've done with it. I will go back and read it in it's entirety soon. It actually coincides with some of my personal research too.

I'm very much interested in terrestrial representations of the cosmos, so thank you for the documentary link! This material is important on many levels in my humble opinion. I'll be contributing some more soon. I want to gather some info and materials, as I feel this thread isn't your run of the mill discussion. Very good thread thus far.

G'day Mrindigo.

I had read that the Torah name of I Am That I Am could also be translated as, I Am Which I AM and I Am Who I Am. So, having a belief that ALL THAT IS, the Sum Totality, Love, Life, or whatever tag/name you'd like to apply to it, is the creator and I am an individuated aspect of ALL THAT IS, then a culmination of the three could be expressed as I Am All I Am. Having the three names, or translations, correlates with other aspects for me; mind, body, soul; past, present, future; here, there, that which surrounds here and there, etc, etc. So I decided to use I Am All I Am to represent the thee aspects of self, the one, that I am.

The Flower Of Life (FOL) is said to contain all geometrical patterns in creation. I got right into the sacred geometry, even started drawing patterns that 'came to me', and even found some online years later that were the same/similar. So the FOL fits in with the name aspect.

Actually, if you enjoy, or are into, that sort of stuff, I REALLY recommend The Black Whole, by Nassim Haramein ...



... in fact, if it is your kick, I couldn't recommend it enough.

Woah , you're going to read the whole thread.

Actually, thanks. I know there is a LOT of information there and it takes a bit of getting through. I actually first posted that on the DI f back in 2007 (it took over 200 hours of research/reading to bring it all together) and it had been a topic that I was looking to get stuck into for a number of years after having heard about Ophiuchus. I really enjoyed researching and presenting the information (so much so that I spent around 20 hours reformatting it for the IL forum ).

I'd love to know about what you are researching ... possibly I could help out in some way if you'd like.

Oh, I agree 100%. This is a VERY important topic that holds some of the keys to human existence, both past and future, which we would do well as a species to get a complete grasp of it in its entirety.

If I am not mistaken and my memory fails me this site fits nicely in with this thread.
It was a while ago now when I went through it and with all material it didn't completely gel with me but I thought others may like to go through it too.

saturndeathcult.com/

I love Thunderbolts, one of my favourite documentaries.

The universe does indeed have a hell of a lot of electro-magnetic phenomenon.

However...not at the scales mentioned and as a total 'solve all'. Thats a bit too much imho.

The EM side of physics is neglected though. Basically because its not all that well understood, same applies to gravity or people who use the word 'centrifugal force' which makes me wince

Still no explanation for the 'winged sun disc' though, variations of which can be seen everywhere today.

sanctumzone.co.uk/forum/Symbolism--Subli...ptian-Symbolism.html

bel wrote:
G'day Bel.

Then you'll more than likely love Symbols of an Alien Sky.

It would be great if they hurried up and brought out the next part of Symbols, I've been waiting on it for a while now.

andyh wrote:
G'day Andyh.

At what scale ?

DNA has been shown to give of low-level electrical signals ... planets have been shown to do the same.

Possibly this is the 'auric field', or 'aura'. It also fits into the ancient, 'As above so below. As below so above', ideology.