The thing with symbolism what I want to know is, what does it do? apart from give the elite hard ons "Ooo look a pyramid!" "there's a flaming bird!" etc etc. And? What's it supposed to do other than arouse tptb in a symbolism circle jerk?

Is it supposed to be some big magical ritual to mind control everyone?

Idk irrespresible, I was too busy hiding under my duvet with my tin-foil-hat

irrepressible wrote:
Maybe people are bored and they just want entertainment.

At least they don't hold gladiator battles and feed people to Lions anymore.

LesleyPumpshaft wrote:


Well when it comes down to it, it's just people running round and throwing stuff innit?

There's been a load of bollocks posted on forums about the olympics, alien invasions, neuclear bombs in suitcases, chemical attacks...and then all the talk about the symbolism.
Well do you know what happened? Some people ran around a bit, threw stuff, rode bikes in circles, lifted heavy things, swam, etc.
And many people found all this to be quite agreeable I would have found it agreeable had I been able to watch it

It was just a sports event...wasn't it?

RealAmerican wrote:
Yeah good point

pheony wrote:
Wasn't directed any anyone in particular, phe.

My posts often aren't, unless they're dirty or specifically mention psketti.

(No offence taken this end, by the by).

EDIT: I'm not really sure what has happened here, but just to be clear, I was in no way standing in judgement over anybody who has enjoyed the Olympic coverage. Similarly, I have no objection to people giving their own opinions and views on the subject, be they for or against.

Neither have I particularly taken offence at any one persons comments.

I thought that talk of the Olympics on here so far has been quite balanced, actually, given that we're an 'alternative' type forum.

It depends if you believe there may be different factions within the Illuminati (Illuminati's not the right word, but that's the one most people use).

They may oppose each other to some degree, and need to collude with each other on some matters.

If the rituals include sending messages to each other, say of some step towards a goal having been achieved so it's time for other world leaders to carry out their part in the game-plan, that would make sense. I think.

That does make sense Gilly

Why can't they just pick up the phone though?

There might be a secret eliteist forum were they all go to slag each other off and talk about their latest sickening exploits

I find the whole symbolism-thing very intriguing even though I have know clue as to what the intentions behind said symbols are. I doubt it's good considering the asshole Elite that utilizes them. I feel like it has to be more than a "morse code" for the so-called "Illuminati". I think about those water crystals in What the Bleep do we Know. How the words effected the water...I never would have thought of that in a million years. So, it makes me wonder about all these symbols because they really are everywhere and I don't think it's coincidence. What effect do they have, if any? Most importantly, what is the intended effect? I know that up until I was made aware of this symbolism, I had been doodling such symbols my whole life. I was kinda disturbed by the fact that I had been subconsciously effected by these seemingly harmless symbols. I kinda got pissed about it, actually; had a shirt with an "all seeing eye"-ish design on it and I tossed it into my wood burning stove one night. I ain't no billboard!

I don't know. Maybe it's the use of symbols that adds power to their cause - in a similar way to all manner of objects being utilised in a witchcraft ritual - the objects' significance being to magnify a particular resonance.

And there's the thing I heard many times years ago, about them avoiding karmic repercussions if they tell us what they're doing. Even if they tell many lies, so long as they tell us the truth amongst them, it's our own karmic responsibility if we fail to take action to stop them.

So perhaps they're painting a picture for us with symbols and it's our own problem if we don't get it.

I'm only speculating, 'cause unlike some, I don't know the answers.

Gilly wrote:
That's the crux of it, Gilly, if you go in for this sort of thing - and there's nothing wrong with it if you dont!

I started looking into the 'ritual' aspect of things like this and even religious type festivals, as I mentioned. There are lots of dots to be connected, if you so choose.

It's certainly an interesting topic and definitely changed the way I look at such 'events'.

Gilly wrote:
I feel you...I'm always just speculating, as well. Maybe it's their way of imposing their reality on us...I'm kinda going with the whole "reality-is-an-illusion" mind frame there but...I don't know; just a thought. I wonder what would happen if all of this symbolism just vanished tomorrow...would the world suddenly appear different? Would everyone "wake-up"? Or would the day just go by like any other day...get up, go to work, go home, go to bed, wake up, repeat...

Gilly wrote:
How can you even believe in karma with all the innocent kids that die of starvation?

Serious Question, what about a baby that dies?

RealAmerican wrote:
This has always been my issue with karma...but maybe that baby was Hitler in a past life...

RealAmerican wrote:
Good point RA. For me at least, it's always been about 'consent' rather than karma.

For example, some believe that simply partaking in such events, if indeed they are some form of massive ritual, means that you have given consent for those that run things to do whatever they feel is necessary.

I think that's the idea behind that particular avenue of thought, anyway. Bizarre as it may sound, it does actually go some way to explain some of the oddities people have started to notice about the games and its 'ceremonies'. For me, anyway.

RealAmerican wrote:
I know for a fact that you don't know what I do or don't believe in. You couldn't possibly, because I don't know myself in most cases.

And I'm not about to go arguing the case for or against any such things as Karma.

Do me a favour - don't ask me to explain babies deaths ever again.

The thing is though, the whole consent thing...it seems to me like some kind of loophole, I mean have these sad wankers we allow to run the world tricked the universe? Tricked creation itself? If you know what I mean

When it comes down to it, those idiots just might believe in a load of bollocks

If tey're are sort of asking for consent with the symbols and rituals, and people give their consent by attending the supposed ritual...well that's not really consent...I mean the masses have absolutely no knowledge of what it all means, so it seems like a contradiction.

Not sure if I've worded all that very well

Ab Origine wrote:
I need to go back and actually listen to this, but someone on a random podcast I was listening to was talking about a show Kyle Hunt(of Star Theory) recently did about the Olympics and Prometheus. I have not listened to his show but in a nutshell:
He said that the ceremony of "passing the torch" was representative of us "lowly humans" giving the torch(the light/knowledge) back to the Olympians. Kinda like, Prometheus went all rebel and gave man fire(knowledge/enlightenment) for which he was punished for eternity, and our dumb asses gave the "fire" back to the slave-driving asshole Gods that control mankind(and punished Prometheus for helping us out). Okay, so that's not what he said, those are my words of bitter resentment. It's kinda a fucked up ritual for humans to be partaking in when you look at it that way.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prometheus

I'm not saying it isn't a right load of old bollocks, Irre, but then again, I'm not 100% convinced it is either.

There are some who believe that one of the main reasons for enforcing the current monotheist religions, was to hide the fact of reincarnation. The ones in power allegedly have learned the secrets of how to get themselves reborn into the same few power families, so that they can continue their own work towards their goals.

Don't forget that when we start talking about this stuff here, it's likely to sound nonsensical because we're condensing ideas studied in lots of books into a few brief paragraphs.

Don't get me wrong Gilly, I'm not one of those pesky skeptics
There might be something in it, or it might be a load of bollocks. I'm just exploring the possible bollocks side of the fence at the moment

I know nothing, that much I do know