What are your thoughts on how we as a species came to be?

Is it all evolution?

Have we been created as we are?

Combination of the two, ie other organisms 'meddled' with to eventually create what we are now, by something or someone.

What happened to all the other hominoids and why are they extinct now, putting aside the fact that apparently we all have some admixture of neanderthal and some others, so they arent completely extinct...but as a stand alone species i suppose they are. Did we kill them all?

Or were the prototypes not up to scratch?

I'm all out of intellectual shit for tonight...but I might think of something more to say later after some sleep

What I think is that in ancient times three or four possibly different races of interplanetary beings formed a combination of what we have become when they colonized earth , with the help of godlike beings, from the unseen realms in the astral world of their reality, and ability to effect the particular physical awareness we comprehend at the moment.

And we could have or were intended to evolve into a higher form of humans, that understood different dimensions, and levels of growth as cosmic beings that would have enlightened us .

But greed and physical lust caused us to keep our primal nature, more than knowing a real awareness of self, but instead a false reality of physical pleasures and overindulgence..

I don't know Rick...that's a pretty "out there" albeit interesting theory All animals on earth are the same, eating, copulating, reproducing, trying to survive.
We're physical beings, in a physical realm, why would physical pleasures be a false reality? It's our reality, it's a fact of our reality...maybe we have perhaps become a bit too physical, and somewhat forgotten to an extent the spiritual part of our nature.
Balance, we should aim to achieve balance I reckon, not too physical, not too spiritual, you know?

A world of pure spirituality, without the physical would be a bit shit, let's face it No matter how much we evolve, how much more spiritual or whatever we become, I still want to feel a woman's skin next to mine and experience the pleasure of that physical union

I enjoy the physical nature of my existence

I am way past my bedtime, grrr I'm rather quite knackered actually, it's time to kip

PS does this post make sense?

irrepressible wrote:
How much of that is lust, pleasure, or a feeling of if you don't have that your not complete, the realization of this set's us apart on earth , and gives us self awareness and this sense of loss if we don't have it.

To feel need or loss without a real reason makes us wanting for no reason,just out of ego, sexual cravings, or greed for the need to possess and control another, lower lifeforms need to mate is purely driven by their sexual cravings,scents of the other and pure and simple copulation, where as the human has all the strings and attachments of this copulation, unless it's just random sex with a stranger, but still there is the emotional factor involved.

Do you see what I mean?

www.thewatcherfiles.com/alien_races.html

www.think-aboutit.com/aliens/seventy.htm

www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vida_alien/esp_vida_alien_18zt.htm

Have only watched the 1st 10 minutes of this, but it looks interesting...



Voted 'Natural + Interfered with'.

Yeah Rick of course there's emotions attached and all that

This mornings post...that was me just knackerdly rambling again

Humans have the capacity to love.

Do animals love? Maybe they do in their own way.

I'm tired

My answer to the question is...I don't know

How many of us do know? It's all just theories, conjecture. 90% of the "conspiracy" world seems to be nothing but theories.

nobody knows anything for sure, do they?

dun dun dun...... philosophy

irrepressible wrote:
Certainly dogs do without a doubt, not only do they love humans they love their littermates also.

Both... created and evolved.

Thanks for the vid Gilly, gonna have that on my "to watch" list

And yes Irr, animals love and they are quite intelligent, I'd put their intelligence far above a humans actually. They feel, the love, they protect...and their love is not limited to receiving something in return, they don't use it against you and they don't do shit out of spite. Plus you don't see animals creating weapons of mass destruction (and IMO, that is a sign of low intelligence to create something that could potentially wipe out an entire civilization...it takes more brains not to do something like that).

StarsChildren wrote:
+1

irrepressible wrote:
Sure, and I didnt add an 'unsure' option etc because I just figured...which option up there would one pick if they had to.

novum, the option 'creation'...do you mean source? The universe? All of creation? That kind of thing?

If that's the case I might pick creation.

I get the feeling here lately that you're in a lift and I've just walked in and farted

I think the alien idea is interesting. I believe earth was or is inhabited by alien human cross breeding and populating perhaps. Maybe we are part of a big experiment.

Evolution is perhaps the most logical though and perhaps we have evolved with help. Obviously we were created by something whether by accident or design. So I think a bit of both.

I know s Jehovah's witness and his argument against evolution is essentially that monkeys are not evolving today. If we evolved from fish would there still be fish. Science is not my strong point but I am sure smart men can explain that one better. I guess it just takes such a long time and only some or one fish evolved.

I think though that the ark was a spaceship and it carried the DNA of every animal. That makes sense.

i-baster wrote:
Im curious to hear what other people think about this also.

i-baster wrote:
You have mastered it all
Science seems to be bringing up some good points and proof of different things.

That video that Gilly put up was a good watch. Much to learn from that viewing.
Added to my files for future promotion.

irrepressible wrote:
I meant this en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creationism

God and all that
irrepressible wrote:
Which direction am I heading, up or down!?

Oh god and that?

I still don't know, I still can't vote

I'm here, some stuff is good, some stuff is shit, some stuff is meh

It's just life and that innit?

The "if we evolved from monkeys why do we still have monkeys?" argument ignores a basic of evolutionary development, the environment.

Remember Charles Darwin's eureka moment in the Galapagos Islands was the length of the tortoises necks on one isle compared to another. The height of the vegetation was the key. Those with longer necks could reach the higher vegetation and thrived, those with shorter necks starved and died off. On another island the species were unaffected because the vegetation was lower.

For that basic reason most species of creatures on earth split into sub-species that have adapted best to their surroundings.
Therefore it becomes clear that the development of a sub-species or mutation does not require the eradication of the original species.

One way of considering accelerated/forced evolutionary process would be dog breeding.
By selecting and isolating the desired traits and breeding to that aim we have the huge variety of mutts we see today.
From St Bernards to Chihuahuas. Yet they all derive from the Wolf, which still exists in relatively large numbers.

They are a certainly a case of 'unnatural selection' granted, but they illustrate the process.
We isolated them, reduced their partner options to those of similar attributes, filtered the offspring and repeat.
In effect, we created artificial Galapagos Islands.
Now place a St Bernard in the hot South American landscape, and the Chihuahua in the Alps and watch them both die off quickly because they are unsuited to the environment.