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Re: an example of why I find society so sad... 08 Jun 2012 13:10 #21

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@dawn - I first heard about the case via some friends from nottingham who were talking about it - the story has appeared in the mail afaik as well as other doompapers.
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Re: an example of why I find society so sad... 08 Jun 2012 13:17 #22

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hadabusa wrote:
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dawnbreak, i been places, i can tell you the uk is far from being kind or something like that.

I'm English, have lived in England all my life and I don't think it's a great place, but there's a still a lot of nice people. Even when I get really jaded, people surprise me.

Not that long ago I was walking through a town centre and this kinda scally looking guy ran up behind me - mate! mate! you dropped this - it was a tenner that had dropped out of my pocket and I hadn't even noticed. He'd seen it and actually ran after me to give it back to me. He could easily have just picked it up and kept it.
Though on the other hand it's kinda tragic such an act of selfless honesty left me feeling pretty amazed.
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Re: an example of why I find society so sad... 08 Jun 2012 13:18 #23

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Ha! I got in there with my edit first Ab :P :woot: :gleek:
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Re: an example of why I find society so sad... 08 Jun 2012 13:24 #24

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irrepressible wrote:
Ha! I got in there with my edit first Ab :P :woot: :gleek:

I know...with your ps3 finger skills!! Or do you have a keyboard now? :chuckle:
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Re: an example of why I find society so sad... 08 Jun 2012 13:26 #25

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dogsmilk wrote:
hadabusa wrote:
dawnbreak wrote:

dawnbreak, i been places, i can tell you the uk is far from being kind or something like that.

I'm English, have lived in England all my life and I don't think it's a great place, but there's a still a lot of nice people. Even when I get really jaded, people surprise me.

Not that long ago I was walking through a town centre and this kinda scally looking guy ran up behind me - mate! mate! you dropped this - it was a tenner that had dropped out of my pocket and I hadn't even noticed. He'd seen it and actually ran after me to give it back to me. He could easily have just picked it up and kept it.
Though on the other hand it's kinda tragic such an act of selfless honesty left me feeling pretty amazed.

I think most people are good at heart .

I was completely skint once and a women's bag that was hanging off her daughters pushchair fell to the ground and I was walking behind them so could easily have kept it for myself . I didn't I shouted 'excuse me' is this yours?

I think the majority of people do care about other people ,
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Re: an example of why I find society so sad... 08 Jun 2012 13:27 #26

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dogsmilk wrote:
hadabusa wrote:
dawnbreak wrote:

dawnbreak, i been places, i can tell you the uk is far from being kind or something like that.

I'm English, have lived in England all my life and I don't think it's a great place, but there's a still a lot of nice people. Even when I get really jaded, people surprise me.

Not that long ago I was walking through a town centre and this kinda scally looking guy ran up behind me - mate! mate! you dropped this - it was a tenner that had dropped out of my pocket and I hadn't even noticed. He'd seen it and actually ran after me to give it back to me. He could easily have just picked it up and kept it.
Though on the other hand it's kinda tragic such an act of selfless honesty left me feeling pretty amazed.

This.

I am finding myself increasingly humbled by the people of this country. And it's usually when I'm at my lowest and most in need.

The fact that it humbles me every time and isn't something I naturally expect from my fellow human beings is testament to the power of msm, imo. You know what I'm going to tell you to do now, don't you? :chuckle:
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Re: an example of why I find society so sad... 08 Jun 2012 13:41 #27

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dawnbreak wrote:
dogsmilk wrote:
hadabusa wrote:
dawnbreak wrote:

dawnbreak, i been places, i can tell you the uk is far from being kind or something like that.

I'm English, have lived in England all my life and I don't think it's a great place, but there's a still a lot of nice people. Even when I get really jaded, people surprise me.

Not that long ago I was walking through a town centre and this kinda scally looking guy ran up behind me - mate! mate! you dropped this - it was a tenner that had dropped out of my pocket and I hadn't even noticed. He'd seen it and actually ran after me to give it back to me. He could easily have just picked it up and kept it.
Though on the other hand it's kinda tragic such an act of selfless honesty left me feeling pretty amazed.

I think most people are good at heart .

I was completely skint once and a women's bag that was hanging off her daughters pushchair fell to the ground and I was walking behind them so could easily have kept it for myself . I didn't I shouted 'excuse me' is this yours?

I think the majority of people do care about other people ,

Done the same myself and handed in a wallet with a couple hundred quid in it.

I'm not sure I would agree most people are good at heart, most could do better if they had incentive to do so perhaps...
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Re: an example of why I find society so sad... 08 Jun 2012 14:12 #28

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andyh wrote:

Done the same myself and handed in a wallet with a couple hundred quid in it.

I'm not sure I would agree most people are good at heart, most could do better if they had incentive to do so perhaps...
Many moons ago when fiat still came in a brown envelope at the end of the week, I found £140 in a wage packet outside a factory. I travelled 5 miles on my bike and handed it in at the 50 base. They told me that if no-one had claimed it in a month, the money would be mine. To their credit, they phoned me a month later and said the money was mine. (Boy I did a lot of speed that weekend ;) ). So it seems that the person who had lost a weeks wages had so little faith in humanity that they didn't even check to see if someone had handed it in :O
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Re: an example of why I find society so sad... 08 Jun 2012 14:24 #29

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dawnbreak wrote:
dogsmilk wrote:
hadabusa wrote:
dawnbreak wrote:

dawnbreak, i been places, i can tell you the uk is far from being kind or something like that.

I'm English, have lived in England all my life and I don't think it's a great place, but there's a still a lot of nice people. Even when I get really jaded, people surprise me.

Not that long ago I was walking through a town centre and this kinda scally looking guy ran up behind me - mate! mate! you dropped this - it was a tenner that had dropped out of my pocket and I hadn't even noticed. He'd seen it and actually ran after me to give it back to me. He could easily have just picked it up and kept it.
Though on the other hand it's kinda tragic such an act of selfless honesty left me feeling pretty amazed.

I think most people are good at heart .

I was completely skint once and a women's bag that was hanging off her daughters pushchair fell to the ground and I was walking behind them so could easily have kept it for myself . I didn't I shouted 'excuse me' is this yours?

I think the majority of people do care about other people ,

Yes I think humans do (mostly) have good hearts at their core - even the English LOL. But I think unfortunately there's a lot of drives for us not to be. Like last year I was watching breakfast telly on the beeb and they had this segment on how the British supposedly weren't as business minded as other Europeans. One thing they cited was that British people were allegedly not "ruthless" enough. Hang on - what's so good about being "ruthless"? Nobody commented on what to me was a rather obvious observation - it was just taken for granted. So then if you're expecting people to be "ruthless" about making money, why are you surprised that some people go on the rob? Kind acts like the one you described are generally praised, but then on the other hand you're encouraged to see yourself as an atomised individual in direct competition with everyone else.
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Re: an example of why I find society so sad... 08 Jun 2012 14:37 #30

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I know that happens but when the 'people' act like people , niceness prevails .

I don;t think being ruthless will ever make anybody happy

People , real people , help out others


Corporations wont because it's all about profit
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Re: an example of why I find society so sad... 08 Jun 2012 15:46 #31

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dawnbreak wrote:
I know that happens but when the 'people' act like people , niceness prevails .

I don;t think being ruthless will ever make anybody happy

People , real people , help out others


Corporations wont because it's all about profit

This is it in a nutshell, Dawn. If you're not a 'corporation', you really have to ask yourself what the fuck you're doing thinking like that. That however, requires some independent thought.
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Re: an example of why I find society so sad... 08 Jun 2012 17:40 #32

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Ab Origine wrote:
dawnbreak wrote:
I know that happens but when the 'people' act like people , niceness prevails .

I don;t think being ruthless will ever make anybody happy

People , real people , help out others


Corporations wont because it's all about profit

This is it in a nutshell, Dawn. If you're not a 'corporation', you really have to ask yourself what the fuck you're doing thinking like that. That however, requires some independent thought.

Corporations can't think because they're not human :D

lol :p

I suppose a corporation sole could....I'd best not start all that again.... :p
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Re: an example of why I find society so sad... 08 Jun 2012 17:47 #33

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andyh wrote:
Corporations can't think because they're not human :D

lol :p

I suppose a corporation sole could....I'd best not start all that again.... :p
Tiz a worthy subject andy :D
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