Scarp wrote:
Hmmm. What are your thoughts on this fishiness?

knobmeup wrote:
Not always possible to be self-employed, can't work with tax on salaries and occupational pensions, irrelevant to benefits claimants - and doesn't work with VAT, fuel duty etc.

The means of non-compliance is just not there. The vast bulk of the government's income comes from taxation over which we have zero control. Tax on self-employment income is a fleabite.

But "don't pay tax" is the sort of mindless mantra, together with "wake up" - screamed by the great guru himself - that is peddled mindlessly over in the DIF.

They have no non-violent solutions. That is the reality.

Gilly wrote:
hmmmm

I think abs would be best placed to find out the flagrant flouncing imposter

Verlander wrote: If people care about paying vast amounts of tax, which they should, they should (a) do everything possible to be self-employed, (b) be pushing for direct democracy. That is not a solution to all of the world's problems by any stretch of the imagination, but it would be a start. My experience is that people don't want social change, or don't understand the need for it, or have the problems / solutions arse-backwards to begin with, or a combination of the three.

I agree with you about TPV not having the solutions BTW. Ultimately, I don't see any widespread solutions until there is genuine social concern about what is happening in the world and in Britain specifically. I just don't see much evidence of this.

Gilly wrote: I must say that I have reached the point where the only TV programme I watch is The Simpsons occasionally. But I have seen all the ones I like about ten times (at least). But the one thing I really enjoy is sport, and that sort of keeps me sane in a way. But lots of people would see that as very 'sheeplish' and it is used for propaganda purposes all over the world, particularly in the States, and I am aware of this, but it's just something that's in my blood.

Verlander wrote:
That isn't really true, look at David, he hasn't got where he's got through violence, TPV wasn't created through violence, it was created by love, generosity and the will to bring something positive into creation.

If people walked the talk, applied the lessons of David Icke to their lives things would start to change?

Jouissance wrote:

And those lessons would be what? Use mind games, emotional blackmail and verbal abuse to get what you want.

wake_up_bomb wrote:
I've got a TV. Rarely watch it, but if & when there's something decent on, don't feel the least bit guilty about watching and enjoying it. And balls to anyone who tries to tell me different.

Jouissance wrote:
lololololol


Really ?

Are you for real ?

Sorry to say , but it has been shown and experienced by many people here that Icke and Sean are anything but loving >

The moderators on his site are lying through their teeth , silencing anyone who dares asks questions , but yeah it's all love ..

2 words

FUCK OFF

Jouissance wrote:
The donations were given with good intentions, but you're missing a lot if you think love was behind the creation of that company.

Sorry - 'lessons'? Like how to try to manipulate through fear and guilt mongering, people into handing over money for providing a service they can already get for free elsewhere?

Jouissance wrote:



If you mean, how to manipulate the people into buying his books that offer "salvation" or donate to TPV or else you're fucked.... right! What lessons? How to be a hypocrite? Call people names? idiots? Mongs? Just because they don't wanna give him money?
And why on Earth will I send money to TPV? It's crap, end of. All the info is available for free all over the internet. Gareth and David should finance their station themselves, I ain't paying for that garbage, especially not after DI "give me your money" rant "or else no infinite love for you!"
If you wanna buy "salvation" it will cost ya £26, and you can order it from DIBooks. Go ahead, then tell me what it's like in heaven!
All he's done is talk and talk and steal other peoples research. He offered 0 solutions. Only more fear-mongering!

www.sacred-texts.com/ This guy who solely run that site for decades, translated manuscripts, spent hours and days in libraries, done it all for free, uploaded it all on the internet. He was an older gentleman, died in 2010. That place has every ancient manuscript translated. FOR FREE!!!!! GET IT????? It has info about Reptilians, Annu, Enki, Plato, Socrates... you name it!
FOR fucking FREE!!!!!!!!
Not asked for a penny!
That is REAL RESEARCH. Not what DI has done, David Icke can go fuck himself for all I care, he's a FRAUD!

scaltura wrote:
Easy tiger! Not everyone has their veil removed at the same rate/pace.

cadenza wrote: All David has done is expose the mind games, that's why I donated to TPV so he could expose them to more people.

Did you go to school, then you know they teach false history and atheist lies there, all the mainstream gives is mind games to distract and program you, TPV is set up to counter that.

marina wrote:


Did he really say that?

I.. need.. air..

Help!

marina wrote:
You probably never read one of David's books, all you're doing is shouting like a lunatic, it's clear you've never understood his books even if you read them.

Nobody has been manipulated to buy a David Icke book, where's your book about the hidden history and truth about religion?

Where is your television station?

Jouis, I think what bothers most people about TPV is David isn't walking his own proposed walk! Giving the people a voice is a noble venture but when that is certainly contradicted on his forum, allegedly contradicted on their YT channel and seemingly contradicted by his 'rants' then you can understand why people begin to distrust his message.

Jouissance wrote:
I've read at least half of his books.

I'll debate you on any of the main subjects that Icke writes about.

@Jouissance
Please!
I read "The Biggest Secret" and "Human Race Get Off Your Knees"

What am I supposed to do, worship a fucking book? Get fucking real! If you have truly understood what DI wrote there, then you would see that he's not practicing what he preaches.
Before Icke there was Zecharia Sitching, Jordan Maxwell, and many more.

"Where is your television station?"

Why on earth would i want a TV station!? Go back to watching TPV ehh...

You need to do some reading up round here about the shit people have experienced in the name of Icke from his forum really, as well as observations regarding his campaigning tactics, and the dubious goings on re money at TPV, because your comments seem so utterly naive as to raise suspicions regarding your genuineness.

scaltura wrote:


Wait...what?