dantesrevival wrote:
That would usually be where someone - an affable, non-trollish type member - churns out loads of completely innocuous, opinion seeking threads. You know, like, do you like Cocoa or Horlicks?

Then they slip in ones on very controversial issues sometimes. Being accustomed - conditioned almost - to answering the mundane questions raised by that member unguardedly, sometimes people who aren't very bright, and whose values are a bit wobbly, automatically chime in. Sometimes, they let things slip - factual details or opinions = that are detrimental, and can be used against them or the forum at some point in the future, and can even be compiled into a whole dossier of damning info over time.

It'd be less likely to be successful somewhere like here, where there's not such an overwhelming number of members that things can slip by unnoticed, and people are true to their beliefs, and on the ball - but on bigger sites you see it all the time.It's always worth being alert for that kind of thing.

mikey mikey wrote:
No your right I wouldn't call him a Neo Nazi either. I think thats too strong of a word and I agree with what you said, however, this is what leads me to believe that.

A. He has been lead by other's to believe the holocaust didn't happen as it is documented, and sides with the NAN's on their attempts to minimize the atrocities, which is what the Neo Nazi's do.

B. He doesn't research too deeply into thing's, which he doesn't and reilys on what other's have said. So he is easily led.

C. He has been manipulated, by either malevolent forces, they have manipulated his ego and I'm seeing a lot of that coming out from him lately.

One thing that does bug me is the cornerstone of his theroy, which is Rothschilds Zionism.

For one the rothschilds aren't the top of the pile, imo, there are other groups which have more say than the Rothschilds. For one you could say royalty plays a bigger part, another the Committee of 300, as BC reminded me, is more powerful than the Rothschilds clan. The Vatican has more say than the Rothschilds.... I'm not ditching Christianity either Mikey, so please dont think I'm attacking it.....These are the tangibles elements of a world wide conspiracy. The other is an off world ET based ones. Archons is what I'm leaning too.

The Rothschild clan was divided on the creation of Israel , the Balfour agreement, and if you've seen the interview with Alan Russo where he told of Nick Rockefella saying they wanted to bring all the Jews from the middle east over to the USA so they could have a land they could call their own, so there by ending the conflict there. Then why is Icke Saying Rothschild Zionism? It is a misdemeanor, it is a generalization of a complex issue.

One other thing about Zionism is that there are Fundy Christian Zionist and considering America is a nation founded on Christian values and the law system is based on roman Christian values. Then WHY isn't Icke expressing that? You have Mitt Romney, a Mormon who's views are with the Christian Zionist, and it looks like his rising to the top. Then why isn't Icke saying more about this? Why isn't he talking more about Christian Zionism instead of saying Rothschilds, who are jews. Lets face it mate, the majority of people these days have been dumbed down and more so in the truth community, so you REALLY have to be specific when your on the conspiracy world stage.

Icke isn't.

The David Icke Forum is in his name. Why isn't he directing it more, I mean wouldn't you want your message to get across and not be Hijacked with what is happening there. All it would take is a notice from Icke stating the bleeding obvious on the forum. This is what the inspiration of this forum is about, getting away from the BS over there. THIS FORUM IS MORE OF A DAVID ICKE FORUM.

This is why I question David Icke's motives.

mikey mikey wrote:
I didn't take any offense Mikey.

I think all our skins have been psychologically burnt from the dif. and I feel that was the purpose of those over there now.

Boots wrote:
I am in complete agreement that Mr. Icke has been misled. And without getting too personal, we can see that from areas outside his work,.

I am in complete agreement: the Rothschild's are just ONE super-rich family among many and as you say, not some monolithic group but divided by their own interests and views. Rockerfella, Koch, Vanderbilt , Walton, Mars, Cox all have fortune in the billions but they are not all teh j00z so the neo nazi New age movement never turns up with their "research".

Not that the rich family Rothschilds aren't, by and large, a bunch of shits. Thay are. But the name is actually very common amongst Ashkenasi jews and just because one has it as a surname does not imply any relation.

This is not mentioned because in the mouths of people like tinyint, rodin and ES names like this and words like Zionist just means "all jews".

Part of this focus of their research on the Rothschilds might be simply down to the number of stories in the beloved Daily Mail
www.google.co.uk/#hl=en&sclient=psy-ab&q...d53&biw=1311&bih=618

Absolutely! The Xtian right was instrumental in getting the neo cons in power. And they have their own "Holy Land = america" shit going on that lends itself nicely too the supremacist angle that permeates the malitia and patriot movement that for some wierd reasons cosies up to the new agers: supremacism being the common ground.

Or rather, what DIF might have been.

And why I am wary of him. But I remember the guy before the 88 crowd turned up. So...

mikey mikey wrote:
'Infinite Love'.

Good grief.

I am getting closer and closer to ending my relationship with forums. I can't be the only person who avoids scrolling to the comments section on youtube videos. These people seem to be everywhere.

Dusthead wrote:
To be fair to the ILF, these threads aren't representative of the site and runciter is a well known NAN from DIF and doubtless elsewhere.

But you are right, they are everywhere and many are getting assistance in my opinion. Astroturf and Gladio style organisation.

As for leaving the forums: take a break if you feel you need to, but stick around if you can. You are a great poster.

[url=]dolores1 wrote[/url]Another line out of the cosy warm tolerant place where people make peace like what we don't here.

Excuse me

mikey mikey wrote:
Hey Mickey, I think it would be fair to add this link where he was banned from ILF for Rascist Hatred in 2010.
He didn't last long. He was merely talking to himself, until he got banned.. He didn't ever represent ILF in any way.
www.infinite-love-forum.com/viewtopic.ph...artin+timothy#p25826
Martin Timmothy Banned For Racial Hatred

Here is I Am All I Am post on the situatiion:

All of Martin Timothy's posts are retained in the YOUR SPACE sub-forum.

Personally, I have no issues with whatever anyone states, but there are some things that we cannot allow on the forum because the Terms Of Service that is signed with the forum server. (RY)

This amounts to very little, and is usually the sorts of material that people do not like to have on a forum anywhere, such as racial hatred and pornography.

While I can understand your reasoning Runciter, Martin Timothy was using the board as a blog spot and was not interacting with the forum members. Having seen him on another forum, which banned him a LOT faster than we did, I did some searching and found that this was basically his M.O. when posting on forums. Despite contacting him via PM, he didn't respond and the racial vilification in one post in particular was a step way over the line.

While it isn't something that I personally agree with doing, I am part of the forum administration team and a member of the forum, and because Martin was putting the forum at risk, then I decided that after having been warned already, it was time to ban him. In this instance I had to something that I wouldn't normally do, but this wasn't a normal situation either.

THANK YOUl

Thanks Chanravaki! If you look back at post 1037 I try to make what you say above clear. i was actually addressing the proliferation of these utter currants in just about every corner of the internet.

I came accross runciter on ILF while looking for a post of his on DIF via google (banned people can't use the site search function). Turns out he'd duplicated posts on both sites.

No disrespect to you guys at ILF and good to see you kicked the currants out,

mikey mikey wrote:
I saw that post mickey, thank you for that. No one knew in IL this guy, but, he'll never be back again, he's permanently out.
Cheers to you. Yeah, we all understand the not being able to use the search function.
IL has a policy of not banning people for their opinions, but this reached the limit, so IAAIA gave him a bye bye-a good banning him.
IAAIA can tell you more on this, although I see it has all become quite clear
Cheers to you mickey.

mikey mikey wrote:
Thanks for that Mikey. I will be taking a sabbatical from the DIF. I think it's fair to say the aggressive types are wining over there. I don't need to point out who is dominating things and I don't think it's right for people like me to be posting there. I am happy to wave the white flag and go back to pursuing other neglected hobbies that involve leaving my house. I will go back from time to time to see if it's any less angry. Everything changes eventually.

In the meantime I will use social networking with more of an emphasis on the word 'social'.

Dusthead wrote:
I called it quits for a while once I had made contact with a few old friends including yourself. It took quite a while to get the mental stench off and I don't think prolongued exposure to it was good for any of us.
Dusthead wrote:
They "won" a long time ago. The losers are ultimately the few remaining posters who don't share their very dark values and ideas.
Dusthead wrote:
Me too for now: I am curious to see how crazy it will get without opposition (people like you and me) and scrutiny (this thread is largely invisible to them now). Right now they seem to have accelerated towards the deep end.
Dusthead wrote:
Well I will take the liberty of speaking on behalf of SZ and say that you will always be welcome here.

Go away for a few days, come back and find this thread is now in the private area

Can anyone tell me why please?

PMing you now

This is nearly completely offtopic, but I'm happy to announce that, thanks to SZ, I have been COMPLETELY away from DIF for over a month! Not a single glance on that shitpile. The only thing which takes me back to the DIF mentality, the only thing that keeps me updated about DIF's "progress" are threads like this one.

I'm very happy to see this thread in vent room and I will be even happier when the day comes that peeps here can FINALLY put DIF stuff to rest.

Well sorry but this thread ain't the only Icke thread and that one ain't even vented.

The dif forum will go back to the same way it was a few years ago and the so called mods wont do anything about it.

Just over the last month the concerted effort of the bigots is gaining momentum and make no mistake about it it's a organized infiltration with a large group of people waiting in the wings to lend a hand when the time is right. Apart from the sockpuppets and NAN, there are others who seem innocuous, but are from it.

tinybrain once said to me in a holocaust thread that he wanted it taken into the general section where he said " I'll slaughter you" his exact words. that tell's me not only is he a nutter but there is a organized effort by him and other's, because they DID gather around there and the " Todays News" forum to steer the direction of the dif.

resistance wrote:


resistance wrote:
Concerted effort.

Well resistance always puts more effort into talking about other posters' posts there and elsewhere and generally by what is expressed by others than he puts into expressing his own POV.

He's the would be the Goebbels of the NANs

This was one of my favourite opening posts
www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=157993