Elissa Hawke is a God bothering flat earther "anarchist".

cantata wrote:
Ive no idea tbh, never really cared to look into that, just caught a few articles on there over time, usually when i click on a link from elsewhere.

Just saw Black Clouds links.. the submarine story.

As for Hawke well i never looked into her either... these things always seem to be he said she said when wads of cash go missing or get eaten through... i aint in it so cant possibly know what went on or hold a position other than if i speculated.. all i do know is that people donated again and shit has gone down again and some of the same characters are involved that were at TPV.

Good links, thank you Black Cloud.

Well however they are doing it, novum, they must be getting plenty for it because they lack for nothing (except soul).

Actually, Icke seems to have a very poor "nose" for people - unless, like all narcissists, he eventually turns people against himself by his ways and vanities. There's been sean, Pamela (his second wife, who eventually came "back to heel" when his vitriol brought her low and/or she wanted to make money the same way with her own site) and, more recently, Zen Gardener who often had articles on Icke's Headlines but who is being dumped pretty fast by the spiritual/new age community after his latest revelations:

www.phoenixisrisen.co.uk/?p=11201

ZG "confessed" not nearly all in an article on his own site when this chap Steve from Phoenix is Risen found out and threatened to expose him if he didn't.

Space Bandit wrote:

I can't quite grasp how many people's mouths this comes out of nowadays. It's mindboggling

psketti wrote:
By the way, 99% of people who are pushing Nasa hoax (not that they have lied or twisted the truth in some cases, but that EVERYTHING they do is fake.) are also pushing flat earth bullshit. And a lot of these people also push Mandela effect bullshit. I say its a psy-op to make "conspicacy scene" look like complete morons and to distract people to fight over these things instead of talking about things that really matter.

Also, those people pushing the idea that moon is fake or that its a projection of some kind, are often in cahoots with flat earth bullshitters. There's a clear pattern about this. The promoting of flat earth shit sharted almost over night. Whoops, I mean started. Same happened with Mandela effect.

What does this have to do with TPV, probably nothing, but it has something to do with Icke.... Who's been pushing the idea that the moon as a space station?

psketti wrote: You should watch the 24-hour Flat Earth Debate channel:

www.youtube.com/channel/UCpvIkEEdlbeBWFqlmjwI4JQ/videos

It's funny people have mentioned this because frequently when I go on YouTube I am recommended to watch this channel. I watched it for a few minutes, I don't understand how people have the time to invest in stuff like this.

I've noticed that people tend to be fascinated by topics that could be described as mysterious. People just like gossiping and to think they have inside information about something that's hidden. Stuff that's already proven, no matter how important it is...that's not so interesting. It was really noticeable to me that when the TPV stuff was happening, tonnes of people came here and engaged in a load of what I consider tittle-tattle, none of which was every remotely proven. Then they all disappeared. I'm sure that tendency is a big part of people's fascination with 'Auschwitz was a holiday camp'.

It's not necessarily in itself a bad thing, it's probably part of human nature to use our imaginations and engage in storytelling, it's just not something that interests me personally, and obviously sometimes it gets into daft areas.

What i have found is many people like mystification,they like to be mystified,they like to be lied to.

Many people do not like trying to get to the truth of the matter,wether it's because it's to much hard work which personally i find the route to the truth is easier than the route from the lie in so many ways and does not leave as much damage on peoples psyche.

I think it possibly stems from far back in the evolutionary process.

wake_up_bomb wrote:

Jeepers...I'm doing this and this at the same fucking time haha

I shall venture into there some night when life is leaving me needing that something I can't quite put my finger on....

You may as well punch yourself in the face rather than talk to them. Pointless.

Personally, I think Flat Earthers have got it wrong.

The world is obviously triangular.