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David Icke responds to criticism from Alternative Movement/Truthers 29 Jan 2014 11:47 #101

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A centralised platform- that takes traffic away from the small independent bloggers/truthers

read this part and thought tescos, amazon and microsoft...

Luckily it seems most of his audience are waking up to it, if they haven't already.

And his desired target audience (that you posted about so eloquently on the Child Abuse Coverage on TPV thread) will never see it.
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David Icke responds to criticism from Alternative Movement/Truthers 29 Jan 2014 13:15 #102

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Not much ignoring (for they know not what they do) with that daily mirror esc hitpiece on the DI Headlines now was there? Can't say it wasn't him that did that (even though it was probably shaun), because he's put his name to it. I love how he said he put TPV in Saun's hands because he knew it would be safe with him.

However - it also says a lot about me. A few weeks ago I might have been lapping that up like a puppy dog. I so wanted TPV to succeed (and still do as long as it's run ethically), but oh no - Ive been taken over by dark forces and now serve the minions of evil. I feel rather sad that I could have been taken in by him, and that he speaks like that about people who are having doubts about him and 'his mission'.

I do think Sharon (Mother Damnable) might have played into his hands though. Why accuse DI of taking coke when she obviously has no proof of this (assuming that skype conversation is word for word correct of course). I do think people with any inside knowledge should strictly stick to whatever facts they know and not embelish as embelishments allow them to sway others from looking just at the facts. i.e 'Well if they are saying that then you must dismiss anything else they say' . I understand ppl say things in the heat of the moment, but...

@Sharon, I would like to ask. Did you skype them on that occasion, or did they skype you? If you skyped them, what was the purpose of your call? Also, was that the full trancript of your convo, or were bits left out or edited?

Yeah right !!!

Sorry not to have replied to this earlier, my internet was cut off and I have been very busy, this week my choice was between eating any paying my rent, next week neither seem possible. So I am working long hours to try and make up for all that I have lost theough all this.

"Ah Sharon, you work ? What is it you do?"

Asked nobody !

"Yeah I am a psychic tarot reader on the premium phone lines, you will find me here ...."
www.asktheanswer.com/Amber-Pearl/phone
Aha now you have me I am just trying to make money myself! Yeah right!

I will send the entire skype, if you want, I can also send you messages from and to Deanna and messages from Sonia Poulton, after I sent her the Chris Spivey link.........but first why don't you send me your contact list on skype and I will pick a random person and YOU can send me all the sypes from and to them......

Seems only fair hey ?

:couch:

ps I just found that Miranda Woodgate, who the skype convo was with has unskyped me so the messages are no longer available online, however they are sill on my phone so if anyone wants to tell me how to get them from there to here I will, otherwise I will type them!

...........but if any fuckwit says

"...ooooh it's all he said she said.......... :axe: :axe: :axe:

As far as overstepping the mark goes ! It appears I was too kind to Dick and Shawn imagining their little problems were cocaine !!! It seems they have

MUCH, MUCH more expensive predilections , as I explain

motherdamnable.blogspot.co.uk/

or why not embellish a tin hat with me here

globalovethinktank.blogspot.co.uk/

Please, please stop shooting the messengers !!!!!
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David Icke responds to criticism from Alternative Movement/Truthers 29 Jan 2014 13:52 #103

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David Icke responds to criticism from Alternative Movement/Truthers 29 Jan 2014 14:13 #104

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I completely agree with GP, and think the questions and points in the quote are good and important, without any negative intention necessarily towards you Sharon - I read it as very objective personally, but then I am not directly involved with all the raised emotions that might bring :)

I think as much clarity and info as possible can only be a good thing. I can well understand going on a rant and dissing someone in what you thought was a private Skype chat. Unfortunately Icke's used it to discredit anyone asking questions (funnily enough what a lot of people think he is doing to the whole truth movement with both the lizard etc stuff and now this sham of a 'TV station').

Good wishes to you :)

<edit> GP - thank you very much for removing that utterly repulsive picture you'd added in your edit - I said 'a description would be quite enough thank you' in my original edit, but it wasn't really, so vile it was, even if legal. I understand why you did it now - to show a picture from one of Sharon's links - to question her on it :O
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David Icke responds to criticism from Alternative Movement/Truthers 29 Jan 2014 14:23 #105

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Well indeed !

I have felt like I am being interrogated here several times.

My message has been clear since day one and has not changed.

I spent a week crying, I have lost money, I have lost my "partner", Deanna is still shagging my son, Sonia has been vile to me, I have tried and tried to be pleasant, in very unpleasant circumstances.

I am not saying anybody should dismiss anything, I was goading Dick, drawing him out........trying to see to what depths he has sunk. With my messaage in a PRIVATE message to Miranda Woodgate ....who then passed my message on, and Dick Shawn or somebody else made my Private messages PUBLIC

I really do have a lot on my plate at the moment, I didn't want to be drawn into this debacle in the first place.

I went onto TPV to HELP Deanna, was treated as badly as everyone else, and I too need to heal.!

AGAIN @ Goldenprince 13 I did not say

Mother Damnable wrote:
[quote i.e 'Well if they are saying that then you must dismiss anything else they say' . I understand ppl say things in the heat of the moment, but..

I suppose I am still hurt and upset but hey, dickey, Shawn and Deanna did not care what I did for a living (and maybe they should have asked) but I DO have to live somehow and this crap with Dick has gone on for more than long enough.

Just as a matter of interest how long have you been watching ickey and Shawn ?
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David Icke responds to criticism from Alternative Movement/Truthers 29 Jan 2014 14:25 #106

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electricdreams wrote:
I completely agree with GP, and think the questions and points in the quote are good and important, without any negative intention necessarily towards you Sharon - I read it as very objective personally, but then I am not directly involved with all the raised emotions that might bring :)

I think as much clarity and info as possible can only be a good thing. I can well understand going on a rant and dissing someone in what you thought was a private Skype chat. Unfortunately Icke's used it to discredit anyone asking questions (funnily enough what a lot of people think he is doing to the whole truth movement with both the lizard etc stuff and now this sham of a 'TV station').

Good wishes to you :)

I agree ED, what i am unclear about is why the links take you to stuff like that above, and others that have not pointed out anything that has not already been understood and said before....yet they are posted as if it has something to offer in the light of what was said, which clearly from the other times the link has been posted it does not,... , but along with the psychic hotline i find it pushing traffic rather than information...imho.... :gmc:
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David Icke responds to criticism from Alternative Movement/Truthers 29 Jan 2014 14:25 #107

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who added that pic and why ?
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David Icke responds to criticism from Alternative Movement/Truthers 29 Jan 2014 14:28 #108

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Mother Damnable wrote:
who added that pic and why ?

I did as you linked to another site so again i thought there was something to see...that is what i saw when scrolling down..... :fraid:
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David Icke responds to criticism from Alternative Movement/Truthers 29 Jan 2014 14:34 #110

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.It is a think tank where everyone adds their work.....

my contribution was the embellished tin hat, which you may have missed......if you have any problems with anything on that site perhaps contact Oberon, who, I believe, posted "Deviant Art" I am sure he will reply to you and explain his rational for posting that work.

...A hat which, incidentally I did wear at work (TPV).....though no one ever asked me why I did that either..........
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David Icke responds to criticism from Alternative Movement/Truthers 29 Jan 2014 14:35 #111

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David Icke responds to criticism from Alternative Movement/Truthers 29 Jan 2014 14:40 #112

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OH MY FUCKING GOD!!!!!! Please please it is repulsive.
I did what I thought was best at the time and when I knew better I did better. :)
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David Icke responds to criticism from Alternative Movement/Truthers 29 Jan 2014 14:51 #113

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Mother Damnable wrote:

AGAIN @ Goldenprince 13 I did not say

Not sure when the first time was MD.......can you remind me ?

Also that quote was from your post and i said i do not know who posted it as you did not put their name in to quote....for what its worth
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OH MY FUCKING GOD!!!!!! Please please it is repulsive.

who , what , why , where ?
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David Icke responds to criticism from Alternative Movement/Truthers 29 Jan 2014 14:53 #115

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What's repulsive? The art?

I've got to admit I'm getting confused here.

You went, MD, to look after Deanna - and she's still shagging your son?
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David Icke responds to criticism from Alternative Movement/Truthers 29 Jan 2014 15:00 #116

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was the TVP opening party of those keys in the bowl affair ?
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David Icke responds to criticism from Alternative Movement/Truthers 29 Jan 2014 15:10 #118

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@md

have a :grouphug: and take a breath - it seems you have a lot on your plate right now and a lot of hurt to deal with.
Sometimes, if you stand on the bottom rail of a bridge and lean over to watch the river slipping slowly away beneath you, you will suddenly know everything there is to be known.

“Just living is not enough, one must have sunshine, freedom, and a little flower”
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complete log of skype messages from Miranda woodgate to me.....


[18/01/2014 13:04:13] Miranda Woodgate: Hi lovely lady ... I hope Ive got the right one- TPV Sharon? x
[18/01/2014 13:04:37] Sharon Gifford: Yes it is me
[18/01/2014 13:04:49] Miranda Woodgate: Are you at the studio today?
[18/01/2014 13:05:02] Sharon Gifford: I am sacked I think
[18/01/2014 13:05:18] Miranda Woodgate: oh shit I saw the Chris Spivey article :
[18/01/2014 13:05:42] Miranda Woodgate: :( xxx
[18/01/2014 13:05:54] Sharon Gifford: Worse than that !
[18/01/2014 13:06:09] Miranda Woodgate: what darling ... tell me xx
[18/01/2014 13:07:21] Sharon Gifford: My partner came up fpr a drink becaise it was Richards birthday
[18/01/2014 13:07:38] Sharon Gifford: We all had a few
[18/01/2014 13:09:03] Sharon Gifford: And I was asking about that pic of david that I dont like
[18/01/2014 13:09:28] Sharon Gifford: Just to see what people thought
[18/01/2014 13:09:35] Miranda Woodgate: i expect youve got a lot on your plate today ... if you want a shoulder or to talk about it my number is 07********* ... I'm so grateful to you for yesterday and generous gift of those stones xxxx
[18/01/2014 13:09:45] Miranda Woodgate: why would that get you sacked? x
[18/01/2014 13:10:22] Sharon Gifford: Can I call you
[18/01/2014 13:10:59] Miranda Woodgate: please do darling ,, will just find my phone xx
[18/01/2014 13:12:29] Miranda Woodgate: got it or we can skyp if you have privacy x
[18/01/2014 16:16:13] Sharon Gifford: Google sharon gifford
[18/01/2014 16:40:17] Miranda Woodgate: sharon gifford
[18/01/2014 16:40:36] Miranda Woodgate: sorry thought I was in google ... haha ... will do it now xx
[18/01/2014 16:42:33] Miranda Woodgate: nothings coming up ... are you on about that article Chris Spivey ran? x
[18/01/2014 16:56:07] Sharon Gifford: The one where my real name was mentioned 14 times yeah that would be the one
[18/01/2014 16:56:44] Miranda Woodgate: oh dear you must feel awful today ... on the positive he did say you seemed a lovely lady x
[18/01/2014 16:57:35] Miranda Woodgate: ... which of course you are xxx Are you ok? xx
[18/01/2014 16:58:23] Sharon Gifford: No I really am not
[18/01/2014 16:58:49] Sharon Gifford: I finished with the current mr sharon too
[18/01/2014 16:59:40] Miranda Woodgate: oh shit sharon .. you are having one bad day ... want to talk? xx
[18/01/2014 16:59:43] Sharon Gifford: Because he wentwith the girl who gave the whole team one in the smoking cupboatd
[18/01/2014 17:00:06] Miranda Woodgate: bloody hell ... now that's a reason!!! x
[18/01/2014 17:00:06] Sharon Gifford: Deana wont speak to me
[18/01/2014 17:00:23] Miranda Woodgate: oh no why? x
[18/01/2014 17:00:46] Sharon Gifford: I dont know
[18/01/2014 17:01:18] Miranda Woodgate: are you at tpv now? x
[18/01/2014 17:01:32] Sharon Gifford: No
[18/01/2014 17:01:42] Miranda Woodgate: are you going back? x
[18/01/2014 17:02:04] Sharon Gifford: I dont know
[18/01/2014 17:03:18] Miranda Woodgate: sometimes its best to let the dust settle ... you certainly must feel like you've been kicked in the teeth by everyone right now .... the universe is certainly trying to tell you something :( try to chill out ... easier said than done I know xx
[18/01/2014 17:05:59] Miranda Woodgate: I'm sending you some very positive vibes right now xxx
[18/01/2014 17:05:59] Sharon Gifford: What ? Yeah roght silly
[18/01/2014 17:07:14] Sharon Gifford: Silly me shoulda realised it is all my own fault ! Yeah must be karma phew ?mate !!!!
[18/01/2014 17:08:51] Miranda Woodgate: I can't imagine the pain you're in right now but am here any time you want to talk xx
[18/01/2014 20:46:50] Sharon Gifford: Are you there ?
[19/01/2014 05:36:07] Miranda Woodgate: Sorry I had an early night last night ... am around for most of the day today - hope you're ok x
[19/01/2014 09:14:53] Sharon Gifford: Feeling bit better thanks - send me lovely fresh dorset air - have a lovely day xxx
[19/01/2014 09:19:47] Miranda Woodgate: Consider it done ... lovely day here too xxx
[19/01/2014 09:20:48] Sharon Gifford: (sun) cool xxx
[19/01/2014 11:05:53] Sharon Gifford: Am msking you a box lovely - whst colour roses would you like ? Xxx
[19/01/2014 11:09:13] Miranda Woodgate: aww that's nice ... white please :) x
[19/01/2014 11:14:04] Sharon Gifford: White ok I can maje two coloured roses so you can have white with another colour as well if you would like xx
[19/01/2014 11:18:11] Miranda Woodgate: ... have to be red then - dark red ... with a strong scent :) xx
[19/01/2014 11:22:54] Sharon Gifford: Ok will make some and show you xxx
[19/01/2014 11:25:41] Miranda Woodgate: ooo sounds lovely :) Thx xxx
[20/01/2014 10:09:17] Miranda Woodgate: Morning Sharon - hows things? x
[21/01/2014 05:30:33] Sharon Gifford: motherdamnable.blogspot.co.uk/?m=1
[24/01/2014 03:23:12] Sharon Gifford: I hope you are thoroughly ashamed of yourself !
[24/01/2014 05:40:22] Miranda Woodgate: Sharon - I'm sure I have no idea what you are talking about!
[24/01/2014 05:54:16] Sharon Gifford: I am sure that you do! stealing money i
[24/01/2014 05:55:21] Sharon Gifford: under false pretenses is criminal and imoral, the fraus squad will be coming after you and I will personally make sure you loose every advetising accountyou get,
[24/01/2014 05:56:29] Sharon Gifford: feeding David Ickes cocaine habit is NOT what people are doing when they donate to TPV you people are shocking, disgusting and this disgraceful behaviour WILL come back on you all.....
[24/01/2014 05:59:29] Sharon Gifford: Davis is sick already and every bit of energy or money he hast stolen will make him rot from the inside,
[24/01/2014 05:59:44] Sharon Gifford: HOW DARE YOU TREAT PEOPLE AS YOU DO ?
[24/01/2014 06:00:32] Sharon Gifford: theft is theft if it is money or energy, my energy thay you stole from me is going to fester and will maske you rot
[24/01/2014 06:01:05] Sharon Gifford: ALL OF YOU !
[24/01/2014 06:05:30] Sharon Gifford: 2014 is the year of truth, you will not get away with it rest assured of that!
[24/01/2014 06:32:02] Miranda Woodgate: Sharon - I'm not even going to dignify that with a reply ... apart from to say that you need to take a long hard look at yourself - hatred will only eat away at you - I'm sorry if you feel you have a grievance - you gave your energy it wasn't stolen - if it's not for you then fine .. but move on and find something that is ... I wish you nothing but peace and love
[24/01/2014 06:32:51] Sharon Gifford: don't think I hate I don't I love and am shocked how many people you hurt and steal from
[24/01/2014 06:33:22] Sharon Gifford: innocent people deserve better much better than the rubbissh TPV are all about
[24/01/2014 06:36:32] Miranda Woodgate: Then go out and create something good that will do that ... getting information out about TPTB that is denied to people can only be a good thing - you are part of the problem if you are putting your energies into destroying something that IS managing to do that
[24/01/2014 06:37:57] Sharon Gifford: nope it isn't as you will see on my blog a voice is denied to many people...and the way the david icke forums are run also stops people from being able to speak out
[24/01/2014 06:44:16] Miranda Woodgate: Please try to put your and others egos to one side and think about the good that can and is being achieved ... I'm not going to get into a long discussion about it Sharon ... I truly wish you well - put your energy into something that will make you happy
[24/01/2014 06:46:54] Sharon Gifford: it is tricket ickey and shawns egos..and retirement plans that need looking into not mine, yes bringing down evil pied pipers will make me happy :D) love and light xxxx
[24/01/2014 19:37:42] Sharon Gifford: Thank you
[28/01/2014 17:10:25] Sharon Gifford: ....update motherdamnable.blogspot.co.uk/
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