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TOPIC: Concerns About Child Abuse Coverage on TPV

Child Abuse Coverage on TPV 27 Jan 2014 21:19 #21

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@weeman and very glad I am you are - it is no over exaggeration to say that to me you were pearl in what was a rotting, rancid, past its sell by date of an oyster :hug:
Sometimes, if you stand on the bottom rail of a bridge and lean over to watch the river slipping slowly away beneath you, you will suddenly know everything there is to be known.

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Child Abuse Coverage on TPV 27 Jan 2014 21:28 #22

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Weeman. Thoreau and everyone here

I'm glad we are all here and can have an open conversation. And it doesn't matter - to me at least- how someone phrases or articulates their concerns or expresses their view- it's always clear when it's sincere, from the heart - and for me at least - that's what matters.
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Child Abuse Coverage on TPV 27 Jan 2014 21:29 #23

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thoreau wrote:
@weeman and very glad I am you are - it is no over exaggeration to say that to me you were pearl in what was a rotting, rancid, past its sell by date of an oyster :hug:
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Weeman. Thoreau and everyone here

I'm glad we are all here and can have an open conversation. And it doesn't matter - to me at least- how someone phrases or articulates their concerns or expresses their view- it's always clear when it's sincere, from the heart - and for me at least - that's what matters.
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Child Abuse Coverage on TPV 27 Jan 2014 21:35 #24

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Child Abuse Coverage on TPV 27 Jan 2014 21:37 #25

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Refugee wrote:
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Weeman. Thoreau and everyone here

I'm glad we are all here and can have an open conversation. And it doesn't matter - to me at least- how someone phrases or articulates their concerns or expresses their view- it's always clear when it's sincere, from the heart - and for me at least - that's what matters.

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Child Abuse Coverage on TPV 28 Jan 2014 01:08 #26

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Weeman wrote:

It appears the case that if you can't outright accuse someone of being something (a paedophile - a racist etcetera) the next best 'damning' thing you can do is label them an apologist a sympathiser or a NAN! .

The NaNs labelled themselves as such. With their frequent cry of "I'm not a Nazi............but...."
They thus, fully deserve the 'label'
We all did accuse them of being Nazis....cos they are :roll:
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Child Abuse Coverage on TPV 28 Jan 2014 03:08 #27

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Pedophilia is such a broad topic. To me, a pedophile is someone who takes advantage of a young child, non-consensual intercourse per say. Two people engaged in a consensual intercourse, one being 17, or even 15 (still classified as a minor) and another one 21 (an adult), the latest IS NOT a pedophile. Or say both of them being the same age, 13, doesn't make them pedophiles. Of course, it's all down to not only puberty, but also the mental and emotional age. Age difference is another thing. It is broadly acceptable an 18 year old (woman) being in a relationship with a 50 year old (man), because they are both adults, but when it comes to a 17 year old, or 15 year old, the difference being in only a couple of years everyone is screaming pedo! It's a real fine line. Many good men got shafted by women in that way.
Exposing the rings of pedophilia, especially the elites, that's another thing. Those people (if you can call them people) NEED to be exposed. It's beyond the casual "meet girl, she lies about being of age, you go back to her place, only to be handcuffed the next day because you see, she's under-aged". Those pedophile elites (middle aged men) use/abuse and rape children, young children, pre-puberty, or even babies and get away with it. This subject is very touchy and uncomfortable.
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Child Abuse Coverage on TPV 28 Jan 2014 03:46 #28

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Here it is



Shrimpy does not want to embarrass this person as he's in Shrimpy's opinion an 'awfully nice chap' ..... erm?

About 9 minutes in to it.

GOOD disinfo artists know that in order to convince but deflect you need one well placed lie for 99 truths. Shrimpy does the exact opposite you can't trust a word he says. If Shrimpy said I was a Bloke I'd be panic stricken checking my balls were still in place. And my local Library frowns on that sort of thing. Just ignore him.
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Child Abuse Coverage on TPV 28 Jan 2014 14:39 #29

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Suggestion - maybe on this thread we can also post child abuse topics that should have been disscussed on TPV - e.g. info related to savile and his networks. Or maybe that is better dealt with in its own thread?
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Child Abuse Coverage on TPV 28 Jan 2014 15:00 #30

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Great post from Mother Sharon Damnable on her blog today:


Where Did All The Money Go David Icke and Shawn ?

Thieving Cunts


I don't know how many of you are aware of "satanic ritual abuse" as revealed more and more by people like Bill Maloney, Chris Spivey and others. However it seems certain that despicable things are happening to our children. Individuals have been named, identified and reported to the police, yet even the horrific reports we hear regarding Savile and the disgusting episodes at the BBC and at various hospitals where many witnesses have come forward, very few arrests have been made and, as far as is known the close personal relationships Savile enjoyed with Thatcher, “Prince” Charles, the “Queen” and “Prince” phillip has never come under police scrutiny, as they properly should.

Children from care homes and disabled children are, it seems being abused, tortured and even murdered by evil people who use the children, and the children's energy in "rituals" based on the demonology and ritual developed by Solomon. With his “Seals of Solomon” and, on magical secrets stolen from my magical sisters, during the horrific cruelties and torture inflicted during the “Burning Times”. Although the “secrets” gleaned by torture from the wise ones of old are lies and misdirection, the wise ones would, as perhaps we do ourselves, play the “What if” game. What if we are tortured what shall we say? The “kiss to the arse of Satan” and the “Naked in our rites” are funny, explicit messages for us to know our ancestors kept the faith and no real mystical secrets were given.


Playing with the seals of Solomon is, however, another matter altogether, the conjuring of demons by Solomon was, just that conjuring of the evil from a twisted mind. The “Demons” were held by seals, under Solomon so he could conjure them as and when he wanted. Incidentally this is what caused the rift between Solomon and the Queen of Sheba, who could not associate with such evil, so although she loved Solomon she went home and became reviled as the “Whore of Babylon”.

Since then the Seals of Solomon have been played with by initiates into the “Satanic Rituals” they must endure before they become tuned to these “demons” that are still the depraved visions of sadistic madmen who create and conjure these entities again and again. Giving the “demons” strength and allowing these creatures power over themselves and over the world itself. Creating monsters because that is what they have been told they must do to have “power” and the Vampire Muppet have believed the lies fed to them by their own twisted imaginations.

"Snuff" movies are made and sold for huge amounts of money to sick, perverted and depraved individuals. Children it seems are tortured by having “Their genitalia completely removed with a scalpel” and are filmed as they bleed to death. These films raised “£30,000” twenty years ago, how much do they cost now? How much for a child? How much for a disabled child

More and more children are being stolen from their parents by Social Services and "secret family courts" must surely ring alarm bells for many of us. If parents are struggling to cope in a difficult world with the huge responsibilities that are involved in bringing up a child, then surely the family could actually be helped through a stressful time, perhaps a family could have a little holiday, perhaps families could have their bills paid so they could have a debt holiday?

No money! No money for that! But there IS money to pay millions for social workers, Secret Courts and “Foster Parents” that often seem themselves to be a danger to children. It is estimated £3.6 million is made FROM each child in care, could not some of this money actually be spent on the child? Or indeed spent on giving the family real support? These children are, needless to say vulnerable and deserving of help and support from every adult in the land.

We do not know how many children disappear each year from “care” there are no proper record’s kept. Individual children may be reported as runaways or missing to individual police service, but as police services are individually designed and run there is, as with so many other situations, no proper countrywide records kept. Children are fed into a mincing machine and who knows how or even if they emerge at the other side.

Money, is at the root of everything for these depraved individuals, the greed and immoral, cruel and despicable behaviour of the richest people in the world shocks and stuns the ordinary person as these antics are inflicted upon us through the Mainstream Media, we watch as love, sex, humanity is defiled so everything we know seems sordid and depraved.

There are only three stories in the Movies, Aliens, vampires or Zombies which will you be? The limiting and restricting of human understanding and imagination is everywhere around us as we struggle through a world where violence, ugliness and depravity come at us from every turn. It is only natural for people to want to switch of and to need to find explanations and guidance from people that they believe in.

This is where David Icke, Ian R crane and other mis information charlatan’s come in, or rather are directed in by their evil masters. People have busy lives, since the greedy vampire robber barons and the vampire banksters are busy stealing all the money, that is not really money at all, backed as it is by nothing, life has become harder and harder. Chemicals in the food, the water, the air pollute our bodies and the state education system has never been about educating people but only ever about dumbing down a populace and convincing people they must follow leaders.

These charlatans’ appeal to people, “Look, look at how wise, how clever I am…follow me…I will save you” is the mantra, and people do follow as the charlatan spins a web of deceit, you must be frightened, confused, believe they are special…a “chosen” one. Then slowly, slowly they will steal your energy, people don’t last long around these charlatans’’ becoming exhausted, demoralised and confused, the only choice for them is to leave and rest as their vital energies are stolen by their vampiric “saviour”. Gradually the charlatan vampire finds that energy is no longer enough, then he begins to steal your money.
In the case of David Icke it appears he began to be much more money greedy around 2005, this is when serious concerns were raised and published on the internet. David Icke began asking for more and more money from his followers and became abusive if his monetary needs were not met, as documented below. Davis Icke was, even at that time plagiarising others work and was showing sadistic, cruel and immoral behaviour in his private life and was stealing others energies to the point of exhausting them. This is 9 years ago, I imagine David Icke’s morals and lack thereof have only deteriorated considerably since then as he surrounds himself with “arselickers” and sychophants.

Where has all the money gone? Again and again David Icke has been asked that question, he raised at least £300,00 from his “Indegogo” campaign, money was also contributed via Paypal and through bank accounts, it is estimated that as much as £500,00 could have been raised and dispersed through David Icke’s array of “Companies” each showing clear nepotism through the management structure.
Where has all the money gone? As David Icke begins again to harass and harangue his vulnerable followers into giving him yet another £400,000. People were promised an “Alternative TV station”…bringing the news that “Mainstream Media won’t touch” yet all we are shown on “TPV” is endless repeats regurgitated by third rate media hacks, as has already been explained in my previous post. Real stories from legitimate and well respected alternative media, bloggers and others are suppressed and ignored and anyone who asks why this is so? Or who expresses concerns that this is not what thousands and thousands of vulnerable people gave their money for, is rubbished, isolated and ignored by David Icke and his cohorts.

Why don’t we all join the dots, let’s have a look at David Icke and ask ourselves what this narcissistic, vamipiric, thoroughly unpleasant (by all accounts) individual gets up to in his private life? He claims cocaine is not his drug of choice, what are his very, very expensive tastes? Why must David Icke be “protected” and funded? Where has all the money gone David Icke? Why do you need so much more so quickly?

My suspicions are truly horrific, what they do is truly horrific, and must stop, must come to an end, Vampires shrivel and die under the light of Truth, which is why David Icke and his cohorts must be hidden in the dark, will not debate, answer any questions or explain themselves in any way. Which considering they have taken nearly half a million pounds from the world wide populace is a reprehensible, irresponsible behaviour and must beggar the question what are these people hiding?

I join with many, many others around the world asking

“Where did all the money go David ?”


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Child Abuse Coverage on TPV 28 Jan 2014 15:13 #31

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Tpv Book Sales



TPV: We’re transparent! (yes indeed you are!)

earthlinggb.wordpress.com/2014/01/27/tpv...-yes-indeed-you-are/
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Child Abuse Coverage on TPV 28 Jan 2014 15:52 #32

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Panther wrote:
Suggestion - maybe on this thread we can also post child abuse topics that should have been disscussed on TPV - e.g. info related to savile and his networks. Or maybe that is better dealt with in its own thread?

That's a very good question thank you Panther :) Personally I'd prefer it for the moment to be about coverage of child abuse on TPV because I'm very concerned about that now and think it needs highlighting, but it seems very much a democracy here (coming from DIF that is almost unimaginable :O ) so let's see what everyone thinks and I'm happy to go with the flow!
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Child Abuse Coverage on TPV 28 Jan 2014 16:29 #33

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Thanks so much everyone for your very thought-provoking replies :)

I thought of another 'strange' one regarding TPV and child abuse, which I'll edit into the OP. With huge amounts of pressure and outrage building up after Sonia Poulton left and major questions demanding to be answered, David Icke was announced as appearing with Richie Allen (with questions over the business taken live on air!) the following Sunday I believe (with just a day or so's notice and a shitstorm about it all over the internet). The show was due to start at 1pm, but instead of going straight to David to address the concerns of surely even the most devoted Ickeylytes, they lined up the solicitor who is representing 50 or so Savile victims first.

Result? The show never went ahead, the stream was down. They blamed that on the fact that it was just when the Savile legal stuff was going on, so they must have been hacked. David didn't answer live questions, or appear live at all. Later on they released his madman response to Poulton - pre-recorded, supposedly on shaky hand-cams (why did the proper ones not work when there was no power cut at the studio?) and actually edited.

All blamed on the Savile solicitor guy being due to appear. David - have you ever heard of problem - reaction - solution? It's an age-old concept that some charlatan has ripped off and is using quite effectively, you might like to try it ;)

I hear Richie Allen's phone-in on the topic (and the interview with the solicitor) went ahead the next day (the Monday) but I couldn't be bothered by that point. Also that he allowed three or so supportive callers on, and otherwise spent the time waffling himself. One person on DIF said they phoned up but were told they wouldn't be considered because they weren't 'positive enough' to go on the show.

Hmmm...
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Child Abuse Coverage on TPV 28 Jan 2014 17:04 #34

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Then what is the story with Shrimpy, he claims to know so much about the paedo circles and blames the Germans.
Is he making the whole thing up for fame, is he telling lies because of a mental disorder or is he releasing confusing information, he seems to be intent on steering away from the royals, I'm sure he said it was 'ridiculous' and that 'The Germans had positioned certain paedophiles close to the royals to embarrass them/make them look bad' ?
He's homing in on people that are dead, seems like he's causing a distraction from the living (except for some minor celebs).

I don't believe all this about him being poisoned, to me that's to make us think he must be on the right track if tptb are trying to attack him.....Mmmmmmatter of fact where have we heard that before ?

According to Shrimpy the UK is still at war with Germany in this paedophile connecting saga.

How exactly do the German secret service benefit from discrediting the British royals by placing paedophile close to them, to me it seems more like that paedophiles are close to them and Shrimpy is blaming the Germans.

It's the Queen that owns Jersey is it not, not the blinking Germans running it as said by Shrimpy.

Let me get my head round this, according to Shrimpy, Harold Wilson was being blackmailed by German secret services and they were using his off shore paedophile activity to do this?
Then surely Savile was working for the Germans, and the only reason he was near to Prince Charles was because he was a paedophile supplier?
But then according to Bill Maloney the Royals had been at it.

So now we need to make a decision, do we believe Maloney or Shrimpy?

Well to be honest my heart goes with Maloney but my head says that Maloney has not really exposed anything that has come to a conviction.

We get 'my source say's this or that' but nothing ever comes to the surface of justice.

Maloney blames the establishment from the Queen downwards and Shrimpy blames the Germans.

Ignoring the fact that the Queen is a bit of a German, if Shrimpy knows that the German secret service had set up three camps, Oxford, Cambridge, and London in order to catch young people who are likely to rise to fame/power/politics/business then how would the British secret service not know this and block them?

To me there appears to be a lot of posturing going on within this, let's face it, vile scene, with no proof or conviction.

I have seen a few of Maloney's films and they are good, he appears to be passionate about the subject, nothing ever seems to come from them though, just loose ends and speculation.
I don't know why they don't look a bit closer at prince Andrew because he appears to be more 'active'

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1363636...-paedophile-row.html

www.theweek.co.uk/people-news/7293/epste...drew-trade-role-risk

www.anorak.co.uk/275335/royals/when-prin...dia-marcinkova.html/

Is it just me or is two royal prince brothers both being pals with paedophiles not just a bit too far for coincidence?

Seems to me that TPV permitted Shrimpy to use their platform to present his smoke screen, I think Maloney would do well to start with the smaller fish, going on YouTube mouthing of about the royals in that lack of evidence/based on hear say kind of way is not investigation.

Mouthing off stating his disapproval of what we don't know is not investigation it's just mouth, if he has evidence he needs to make it public or stop mouthing off until he has, no ?
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Child Abuse Coverage on TPV 28 Jan 2014 17:25 #35

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Shrimpton was a complete shill for me - total establishment - and the main thing I took away from that interview was 'the royal family' were set up by being introduced to Jimmy Savile. Anyone who's even dipped into the DIF Savile thread knows that absolutely cannot be true. I was shocked that Sonia wasn't harder with him on that, but then again we don't know who booked him, what she was prepared for, and as we're now told, she may have been 'set up' herself a lot by her producer. Still, not her best moment.

Many thanks for clarifying Sean's comment about that paedophile thread Thoreau, Weeman and others :) That makes total sense, and I would have agreed too for whatever it's worth - if the poster had never acted on those urges in any way then it should be able to be discussed, probably even very important for it to be so.

Thoreau - you make some great points for me about the target market for TPV (i.e. not the people who have paid for it, and in fact not people who are - now - actually ever likely to see it). That makes sense in 'team Icke' saying 'the Don' regards Spivey as a loose cannon, and reading between the lines I reckon is probably one of the reasons his gig was struck off (orders from on high). The thing that doesn't make sense in any way to me is that Sonia Poulton was - until she left - the 'face' of the channel. This lady generally doesn't seem to do 'balance' (which seems all they bleat on about now). In the first few weeks she promised to launch campaigns against fracking, for the legalisation of cannabis, and was like a dog with a bone about institutionalised/establishment paedophilia. Surely Icke knew exactly what he'd taken on there as his 'station's' flagship show? :conf:

Which leads me to wonder if she was set up to have to leave...

As for Tachell and 'paedo apologist' I completely understand how some people will lazily (or deliberately) tar someone with that to discredit them. But that's not the way I mean it with him. Sure there are issues around similar age romantic involvements where one involved is the 'wrong' side of the legal age. But that is NOT what Tatchell has talked about in the past (and what he was given a free platform on TPV to rubbish) - he has written about his friends who had sex with full adults from the age of nine years old and didn't find it harmful, he says they even found it beneficial. He obfuscates it further by discussing other cultures where it's common practice. What on Earth has that to do with our culture, customs and history?!

At first glance it may not be so sinister but look deeper into P.I.E. and Liberty into the late 70s/early 80s and join the dots with paedophiles piggybacking on the gay rights movement...including still-prominent politicians now (bearing in mind the establishment paedophile rings that the MSM, police, government and secret services won't touch, and largely seem to be complicit in) and...OK we can't say for certain, but Peter Tatchell is not someone I'd choose for the opening night of my own TV station :conf: AND THIS IS STILL GOING ON!!!

He has never talked afaik about the issue of (generally boys) a year or two older sleeping with an underage girl and being prosecuted (which I've never personally heard a single instance of locally, though I'm sure it happens with angry parents involved). He HAS though talked - and written - about opening the debate up to adult-child 'sex'! And on TPV's opening Telethon he was given a free platform by Richie, followed up by a diatribe against his detractors by a full-on 'rage mode' David Icke.

Just my two cents (I can't say pennies or pounds in all honesty, as they're being siphoned off into my offshore bank on the Isle of Wight :D ) :)
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I love Bill Maloney and do think he is the real deal. When he did that video clip that was on Sharon's blog I almost cried as you could hear the fear in his voice with it shaking. It must be so hard to do what he is doing not sitting behind a keyboard. I have watched his movie on Jersey too and what a creepy place that seems.

It sickens and disgusts me to hear this paedophilia stuff but honestly we can't bury out head in the sands any longer. Why the hell would prince charles have Jimmy Sovile as a friend, seriously the man was a bloody buffoon. It has been suggested that he was a modern day court jester, but to be brought in as some kind of confidant/marriage counsellor to big ears and Princess Diana is a bloody joke. Why did he spend all those Christmas's at Chequers as a guest of Thatcher? Why would she want him as a friend?.

I have read quite a bit on all this stuff including Icky's Doorway to the Cesspit and Chris Spivey's Monsters Inc. And of course there is that much on the Internet these days it can do your head in.

All I know is there is no smoke without fire. I read a book I bought from Amazon USA a few months ago about the murder of Princess Diana and there was still a part of me that thought nooooo surely not. Then I went for a visit to Hampton Court Palace home of Henry VIII and it was like a light bulb moment. These people are so sure of themselves, so full of their own importance and with such a sense of entitlement because they are above the law that nothing or nobody gets in their way. One thing I do remember Icky saying which is probably true is that we have to forget about the way WE think, they are not like US, they have a whole different mind set.
I did what I thought was best at the time and when I knew better I did better. :)
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Child Abuse Coverage on TPV 28 Jan 2014 18:32 #38

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And why did Jimmy Sovile have SO MUCH MONEY?? Sure he was a DJ and had a few tv programmes, but that was years ago. Lucrative business pimping children for the rich and famous eh howzat howzat boys and gals. :mad:
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^ Yes, they have the mindset of psychopaths. No empathy.

One duly noted that when Princess Diana died and them lot were up in Scotland.

From what I have read and saw on the TV (I lived in Austalia then) there was a massive public outcry about the coldness shown especially by the queen and but for the intervention by Tony Blair there would have been anarchy!! That is the nearest to the ousting of the royals I have seen in my lifetime. Good on ya Tony. :mad:
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Another thing. I have mentioned it somewhere else but not on here.

I could be wrong here, my daughter thinks I am but I'm not sure. It's the dumbing down of the word paedophile to paedo or "peddo" as the young of today say. Kiddy fiddling is another one. This is a serious crime but it has now become a joke of sorts.

I have heard peddo used by teenagers in my family to describe somebody they didn't like as "Oh he's a right peddo" but my daughter said I am wrong because it is bringing it to their attention..................hhhmmmmmm
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