Gilly wrote:
We don't watch Tv any more, one does not glean anything of use whatsoever.

If we as craftsmen trained people ourselves instead of releying upon any government, we would retain the control of our own labour, I have rone this for free many times in the past, it took more time and patience but pays off for the whole in many other ways.

If it takes as many servants to service the system as is working, the system isn't working, this model has been realised already in the whole, in a forever young parsdigm, busy doing nothing, working their whole day through, making nothing of worth.

Much is explained here.



Best to farm our own labours like I know we can.

The Apprentice wrote:
Slightly updated I see
Its still a classic bit of work though, nice to watch it again.

It's excellent

andyh wrote:
The first version was slightly incorect in places historically, the new one has it more or less right, what I would like him to explain is, the highlanders who were cleansed from the land, brought the pure inventiveness and honed crafts with them to the new towns that grew a hundred fold with that culture.

The inventions were already thought of, but they never had the power for them to fruit because of a lack of resorces, that were coming from overseas. The new found wealth and products they were making were themselves used to under cut the American drought and famine, it is a constant starvation model being instigated by using know global weather records, and good people against their skilled counterparts the world over.

If the people actually knew what is going on, they could vote their labour from out of the fat conttollers stranglehold.

Where's class war when you need em, we need revolt, They ware talking about tracking fat peole on bennifits and cutting them if they don't lose weight, it's getting crazy.

dantesrevival wrote:
In my opinion they've been flouridated, TV'd and facewanked. The result is todays apathy.

Sadly I don't think I'm far off the mark either, despite the sarcasm.

Sadly when the young riot they steal trainers and plasmas, wtf will it take?

Does anyone else get the impression that globally they are actually begging for us to bring it on?
Like they have a plan and riling us into reacting (especially violently), is a critical part of that.

No I've not lost it.
I see goading coming from all directions.

feather wrote:
No you ain't lost it.

They are definiately goading.... thing is, the only people it seems to be getting too are the ones like ourselves that see it to begin with. The rest don't.

So maybe it's just 'us' they're after?

psketti wrote: I'll dob you in as the ringleader and mastermind in a heartbeat btw.
The fuckers just need to pull out as much as a damp facecloth and you'll be tossed over the side of a trawler in the North Sea by the SAS within hours.

Just sayin' like.



"Yup, I saw her giving it all this > towards Mecca bingohall"

feather wrote:
This they would make billions from, they have already begun to make it easy to handle such a situation, if they intend to push the people far enough into a corner, and as Celente has already said, when people loose everything, and they have nothing ekse to loose, they loose it.

Then they will start stealing food from shops instead of dvr's, the institutions are being readied the black boxes ready and waiting.

But not before removing the remaining physical cash from society, this needs to be removed before they offer the sollution in the clouds. Those that know how to avoid the terror storm that could follow, need take 12 days supplies and retire from view.

It could easily happen, time will tell soon enough, when is your tax year ending, culminating with a bank holiday.

feather wrote:
Dirty bastid

The Apprentice wrote:
I would go further actually and explain why the things we create to serve us end up ruling us.
This is an important point and I've raised it a few times by comparing it to things like 2001 where A.C.Clarke talks about how mans tools evolved to control man.
The flaw is in man not in the tools, the tools do precisely what they were designed to do

Money was a tool which became the controller.
Politics was a tool which became the controller.
Religion was a tool which became the controller.
Technology was a tool which became the controller.

It is mans reliance and allowance of these things to become paradigm that sets the stage for what inevitably happens.

We do not question these things or their relevance in all situations and really we ought to, we should question the relevance and importance of everything and always be willing to change, this is what evolution is all about. Instead we have chosen to rely on those things and allowed them to set our environment.

I can give many examples.
eg= Money = fractional reserve banking, hedge funds, futures trading
Politics= nation states, separatism (superiority), war, authoritarianism, conservatism, prejudice, division
Religion= ideology, dogma, separatism and superiority (again), war (again), authoritarianism (again), conservatism (again), prejudice (again)..you get the idea.
Technology= to serve and reinforce all the above instead of what really matters
You can bundle in science as being the same as technology because at the end of the day its doing exactly the same thing. the research is all geared towards serving the top 3. (yes including religion...think about it lol)

Science should not be what it is, so it is obviously as skewed as the religion is.

An ideal world I guess would have only science and spirituality in perfect harmony. That really would take evolution so to speak.
There would be no place for money,politics or religion in such a world. Only epic common sense, I hope that my great great great grandkids might live to see the day

andyh wrote:
I can relate to that H, it is a future we are already living in, if we are fed more free bread and circuses, it might well be our Trojan Horse.

Edit. This is the time in human history, to halt this by simply refusing to part withany more of our labour, so the machine cannot wait to finish the job, no labour, no army, no war machine.

People must already be stealing food.

The chicken breast fillets & pork chops are security tagged in our local Tesco Express (which I'm boycotting - but not because of the chicken breast fillets being security tagged).

So that's the sick, the old and the fat being penalised. Who's next? Anyone with a thpeech impediment?

My dad used to call it, fat from the hands, of others that is.

I had a dream once, where I saw people walking in line into tesco's and there was a siren sounding, just like the time machine and the people were being greeted by the warlocks.
Gilly wrote: