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UK Debt Thread 17 Aug 2013 14:17 #1

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The UK is currently at least one-trillion, two-hundred and eighteen billion, three-hundred and sixty-nine million, thirty-nine thousand, seven-hundred and ninety-four pounds in debt. As with the US, the real level of unfunded liabilities is far higher than this:

www.iea.org.uk/blog/true-level-of-uk-gov...eds-%C2%A35-trillion

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UK Debt Thread 17 Aug 2013 14:18 #2

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You can read a relatively recent article about British debt here:

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2303345...omy-ONS-reveals.html

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UK Debt Thread 09 Sep 2013 14:00 #3

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www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-24011795
The UK economy is "turning a corner", Chancellor George Osborne has said in a speech in London.

Mr Osborne cited "tentative signs of a balanced, broad based and sustainable recovery", but stressed it was still the "early stages" and "plenty of risks" remained.

Mr Osborne said that recent months - which have seen more upbeat reports on the economy - had "decisively ended" questions about his economic policy.
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UK Debt Thread 09 Sep 2013 14:14 #4

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Doublethink at work. Right there.
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UK Debt Thread 09 Sep 2013 16:34 #5

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On BBC comments (while they last)
woo the sacrifice of 95% of the people in this country has given him and his mates a bit of a boost so they can buy the extra yacht they absolutely must have for this season darling.

our lot will never ever improve with this bunch of tory toffs in charge, they don't care about us and they never will, all that's important is placating corporations enough to get those juicy board positions.
That'll be why the small market town where I live, population aprox 3000, has just oppened its second food bank collection point.
We've never had it so bad, and that idiot Osborne's main aim is to tell us the Earth is flat.
And in the meantime the net debt of £700m he inherited in 2010 is projected to double to £1.4 trillion by 2015. Once the interest on this pile of debt starts going up, the UK will find itself bankrupt.

Osbourne's austerity has been a complete disaster.
Bosses are shaking the country down for more than ever and telling the rest of us to accept zero hours, higher prices, wage freezes...
Give us break George, we are not all mugs.
Wages dropped, living standards dropped, zero-hour contracts the norm, NHS in dire straights, Police only investigating 40% of crimes, national debt actually higher, taxes increased for the poorest along with tax-avoidance by the richest, cost of food & utility bills ever-increasing way above inflation.

I don't think that you actually believe it yourself Gideon.

Needless to say many of these comments will be going down the memory hole. :coffee:

In the last few minutes a whole bunch of pro Osbourne posts arrived. :killinme:

www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-24011795
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UK Debt Thread 09 Sep 2013 17:19 #6

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lol, toryboy software ™ :D
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UK Debt Thread 10 Sep 2013 01:17 #7

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Is turning a corner a term used in economics?

cheezus.

I think they are a bunch of TWOCers on a joy ride driving a mini metro.
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UK Debt Thread 10 Sep 2013 09:19 #8

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I could give Johnny Osbourne a tip.

Take advantage of the system, borrow as much fiat as you can, give it to the people and then default on the repayments.

It's all make believe anyway :)

Many will say so doing will lead to ostracism, trade going down the pan, starvation....

I beg to differ. If a country like Britain defaulted and started issuing debt free currency, many many others would too. The dominoes would fall.

Aint gonna happen though is it. Not because Johnny and co are too stupid to see fiat for what it really is but because they are globocorp through and through. They are in it up to their necks. They have their exit routes planned for when the debt becomes un-repayable so they really don't care.
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UK Debt Thread 10 Sep 2013 10:24 #9

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UK Debt Thread 10 Sep 2013 11:29 #10

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Think I'd best buy one BC, no way any fucker is gonna want mine :D
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UK Debt Thread 10 Sep 2013 11:47 #11

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About a decade ago, I read James Lovelock and realized that there is a deep misanthropy in a lot of "nature loving".
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UK Debt Thread 25 Oct 2013 14:49 #12

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Fantasy:

www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-24668687
UK economic output rose by 0.8% between July and September, official GDP figures show.

The Office for National Statistics said there had been a "fairly strong" performance across all sectors.

The data builds on a 0.7% GDP rise in the April-June period and is the best quarterly performance since 2010.
Reality:

www.scotsman.com/business/economy/uk-deb...ark-carney-1-3094018
UK debt woe ‘made worse by Mark Carney’

FORMER Bank of England economist Danny Gabay is this week expected to accuse governor Mark Carney of fuelling Britain’s addiction to debt and warn that efforts to lift the economy could do more harm than good.

Gabay, who will address an audience at the David Hume Institute in Edinburgh, will say UK government stimulus measures aimed at easing the flow of credit could push up house prices by almost 20 per cent within the next two to three years, raising the prospects of another property crash when the taps are turned off.

Speaking to Scotland on Sunday ahead of the address, he said: “If you’ve ever tried to give up smoking, it’s painful, tedious and puts you in a bad mood. The simplest thing you can do to stop the cravings is have another fag. That’s what we’ve done – we’ve given up the rebalancing and we’re back on the fags, and we’re borrowing to pay for them.”

According to financial charity Credit Action, average household debt, including mortgages, grew to £54,110 in July, from £54,014 the previous month, and there are growing fears that the housing market recovery, driven by the Help to Buy scheme, could fuel further rises in borrowing. The Royal Institution of Chartered Surveyors last week urged the Bank of England to impose limits on the amounts banks were able to lend to prevent property prices rising more than 5 per cent a year.

Gabay’s speech on Wednesday will come on the same day as minutes from the central bank’s latest monetary policy committee meeting are published. GDP growth is expected to have accelerated to 1 per cent in the third quarter, from 0.7 per cent in the previous three months, and while Gabay said he agreed with George ­Osborne’s assertion that the UK economy has “turned a ­corner”, he doubted whether the recovery is sustainable.

He said initiatives such as the Funding for Lending Scheme, which aims to encourage banks to make more credit available to households and businesses, has made the debt problem worse, whereas US authorities have used measures such as QE to shore up banks’ balance sheets instead. The US Treasury’s troubled ­asset relief programme (Tarp), launched in 2008 to buy toxic loans from banks, faced bitter opposition across the political spectrum but had recovered $272.7bn by the end of August, a profit of almost $28bn on the $245bn originally invested.

Carney has pledged to keep rates on hold at 0.5 per cent until unemployment falls to 7 per cent – which is expected to take at least three years – unless there is a risk of inflation running out of control.

The Bank governor told the treasury select committee on Thursday that he has “tremendous sympathy” for savers whose nest eggs are being eroded by inflation, which stood at 2.8 per cent in July, but his job was to make sure the economy “reaches a form of sustained velocity”.

But Gabay, a former government economic adviser and JP Morgan economist, who is now a director of economic consultancy Fathom, described the policy as “financial repression” of hard-pressed savers at the expense of those willing to borrow more. “You’re being subsidised to take on more debt and heavily penalised for trying to save,” he said.

“These short-term fixes on the demand side might flatter growth and might well help to win an election, but they won’t do anything to solve the long-term problems – if anything they’ll exacerbate them.”
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UK Debt Thread 24 Feb 2014 17:04 #13

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The UK is now £54,921,167,123 (dollar value $91,284,471,875) further in debt than it was six months ago. That’s fifty-four billion, nine-hundred and twenty-one million, one-hundred and sixty-seven thousand, one-hundred and twenty-three.

In April, 2013, George Osborne claimed that...

www.cnplus.co.uk/news/sectors/infrastruc...article#.Uwt49uPlaa8
money saved in the benefits system will be used to fund UK infrastructure.

But after five years of savage cuts, the British government is still £10,000,000,000 (dollar value approx $16,500,000,000) in the red per month.

Oh, and this doesn’t include...

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Which amount to several trillion, plus there are other unfunded liabilities as well.
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UK Debt Thread 24 Feb 2014 17:46 #14

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wake_up_bomb wrote:
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The UK is now £54,921,167,123 (dollar value $91,284,471,875) further in debt than it was six months ago. That’s fifty-four billion, nine-hundred and twenty-one million, one-hundred and sixty-seven thousand, one-hundred and twenty-three.

In April, 2013, George Osborne claimed that...

www.cnplus.co.uk/news/sectors/infrastruc...article#.Uwt49uPlaa8
money saved in the benefits system will be used to fund UK infrastructure.

But after five years of savage cuts, the British government is still £10,000,000,000 (dollar value approx $16,500,000,000) in the red per month.

Oh, and this doesn’t include...

2mzz72x


Which amount to several trillion, plus there are other unfunded liabilities as well.

Seems you like to comment on this but can do fuck all about it ...hmmmm :gleek:
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UK Debt Thread 22 Apr 2014 15:56 #15

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www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/news/article...rss&ns_campaign=1490
Britain has racked up its fifth largest budget deficit on record despite years of austerity, official figures will show tomorrow.

The Office for National Statistics is expected to report that the Government borrowed around £110billion in 2013-14 as spending outstripped tax revenues.

But the deficit was still more than £100billion for only the fifth time in history.

The national debt also looks set to have topped £1.25trillion – nearly 75 per cent of national income and £50,000 per household.
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UK Debt Thread 22 Apr 2014 17:16 #16

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It's all just insane numbers, isn't it. A completely hopeless situation.

Maybe if we stand in the street with placards...nah, forget it! :teef:
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UK Debt Thread 22 Apr 2014 19:09 #17

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Gilly wrote:
It's all just insane numbers, isn't it. A completely hopeless situation.

Maybe if we stand in the street with placards...nah, forget it! :teef:
Only thing that can be done (unless there's a really radical solution) is default. Everything else will just make things worse, no matter how much the government pretends otherwise.
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UK Debt Thread 22 Apr 2014 19:21 #18

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Gilly wrote:
It's all just insane numbers, isn't it. A completely hopeless situation.

Maybe if we stand in the street with placards...nah, forget it! :teef:

Bit snide Gilly, never mind.
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UK Debt Thread 22 Apr 2014 20:56 #19

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Vambo wrote:
Gilly wrote:
It's all just insane numbers, isn't it. A completely hopeless situation.

Maybe if we stand in the street with placards...nah, forget it! :teef:

Bit snide Gilly, never mind.

Not really, Vambo. Making a point. ;)
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UK Debt Thread 23 Apr 2014 17:03 #20

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Gilly wrote:
It's all just insane numbers, isn't it. A completely hopeless situation.

Maybe if we stand in the street with placards...nah, forget it! :teef:

Down With This Sort Of Thing Zps6b2e4787


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