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Re: No, the 'jews' really don't control everything.. 29 May 2012 16:01 #21

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Right.... simple fact is, the Rothschilds did not invent usury, they just took it to a new level of control. They set the standard. They had a plan a scant 250-300 years ago, to run the nations of the world by controlling their currency. I look at the Rothschild company now, asset management, finacial planning, etc.... assets of 3.2 billion or some other number... and I laugh. That doesn't take into account exactly what that family is really worth. And since the Rothschild's always sit at or near the head of the table in the City of London, they don't have to disclose a damn thing. They aren't billionaires.... :chuckle: They own it. They now advise people? No, that's a polite way of saying they still tell all the banks what to do.

Here is a link to the Rothschild page, look at where their offices are worldwide...

www.rothschild.com/

Here are some former employees and their current titles;

René-Pierre Azria - Director of Jarden Corporation; Managing Director of Blackstone Indosuez
Dominic Barton - Worldwide Managing Director of McKinsey & Company
Franco Bernabè - CEO of Telecom Italia; Director of PetroChina
Michel de Carvalho - Vice-Chairman of Investment Banking of Citigroup; Director of Heineken International
José María Castellano - CEO of Inditex Group
Sir John Collins - CEO of Shell UK; Chairman of National Power
Alfonso Cortina - Chairman and CEO of Repsol
Douglas Daft - Chairman and CEO of The Coca-Cola Company; Director of The McGraw-Hill Companies
Russell Edey - Director of Old Mutual; Chairman of AngloGold Ashanti
Dudley Eustace - Chairman of The Nielsen Company, Vice-Chairman of Royal Philips Electronics
Pehr G. Gyllenhammar - Chairman of Aviva; Founder of European Round Table of Industrialists
Jay Hambro - CIO of [Petropavlovsk]; CEO of Aricom
Sir Graham Hearne - Deputy Chairman of Gallaher Group; Chairman and CEO of Enterprise Oil
Henry Keswick - Chairman of Jardine Matheson Holdings; Director of Mandarin Oriental
James Lawrence - Chairman of L.E.K. Consulting; CFO of Unilever
Lord Leach of Fairford - Director of Jardine Matheson Holdings; Chairman of Open Europe
Sir Carl Meyer - Deputy Chairman of De Beers; Governor of the National Bank of Egypt
Baron Moser - Chairman of British Museum; Chairman Economist Intelligence Unit
Paul Myners - Chairman of Guardian Media Group; Chairman of Marks & Spencer
Robert S. Pirie - Senior Managing Director of Bear Stearns & Co.
Gerald Rosenfeld - Head of Investment Banking of Lazard
Wilbur Ross - Famous investor and billionaire
Trevor C. Rowe - Director of the Australian Stock Exchange; Chairman of United Group; Chairman of Queensland Investment Corporation (QIC)
Anthony Salz - Senior Partner of Freshfields Bruckhaus Deringer; Acting Chairman of Board of Governors of the BBC
Peter Smith - Chairman of Coopers & Lybrand; Chairman of Savills
Raymond W. Smith - CEO of Bell Atlantic; Chairman of Verizon
Baron Vallance of Tummel - Vice-Chairman of Royal Bank of Scotland; Chairman of British Telecom
Baron George - Governor of the Bank of England (1993–2003)
Thierry Breton - French Minister of Economy, Finance and Industry (2005–2007)
Gerhard Schröder - Chancellor of Germany (1998–2005)
Liam Byrne - Minister of State at the Home Office (2006–2010); Minister of State at Her Majesty's Treasury (2008–2010)
John Kingman - Chief Executive of UK Financial Investments Limited
Baron Lamont of Lerwick - Member of the British Parliament (1972–1997); Chancellor of the Exchequer (1990–93)
Sir Edwin Leather - Member of the British Parliament (1950–1964); Governor of Bermuda (1973–1977)
Oliver Letwin - Chairman of the Conservative Research Department; Minister of State for Policy
René Mayer - President of France (1953)
Baron Neuberger of Abbotsbury - Lord of Appeal in Ordinary (2007–present)
Georges Pompidou - President of France (1969–1974)
John Redwood - Member of the British Parliament (1987–present)
Felix Rohatyn - United States Ambassador to France (1997–2000)
Baron Wakeham - Leader of the House of Lords (1992–1994); Leader of the House of Commons (1987–1989)
General Baron Guthrie of Craigiebank - Chief of the General Staff (1994–1997); Chief of the Defence Staff (1997–2001)

That's just some of their former employees and the big sticks they currently wield. Like their former employees, the Rothschild Group have their "advisory" offices in financial hot spots all over the world.


So yeah.... back to the point, they are a Jewish family, and they are still a huge player in what has become a consortium. They are still the advisors, the planners, the executors.

Icke harps about them, but he's right. The Rothschilds have enough wealth to house, feed, clothe and medicate the entire world. That is WAY to much power for one family to have.

The same names pop up in many corporations and governments.
Its a revolving door. You'll find far more of interest on the carlyle groups list for example.
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Re: No, the 'jews' really don't control everything.. 08 Jun 2012 23:55 #22

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It is those who control the land that have the greatest share of control and the energy that feeds all the cylinders of the engine.

Without food they cannot carry out the ground actions, but they are trying hard to complete their hostile takeover very much by technology and unmaned weapons systems, its the cheapest way by far.
In the Iraq wars the job was almost complete in the very early stages without boots on the ground.
The first beach head for those boots was the oil ports which gave them.the energy needed to.complete the rest of the task, these places were left largely intact for the extraction that was already taking place before the war or initial push had finished with.

What we are seeing today is the stolen energies being redistributed to areas where the same and largest profits are to be made to bring about an earlier world control happen and we are actually bringing it upon ourselves by doing so.

The scene is already set and basically way to late because the EMPIRE now has control of the ready energies which any opposition needs to counteract the empire back for everyone, too late for a quick fix, it cannot happen.

They will now continue what is a global sanctions campain until we will have no real chance at survival, its in our face and the majority have left it far too late, those who are preparing will have a better innings, the rest without skills zero chance.


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nah, you cant say they could feed and house the whole world, they might for a day or so.

Housing, clothing, and medical supplies last for more than a day, and we're talking shipments of bulk food supplies to starving people. They and the Windsor family own large chunks of fertile growing land in countries all over the world. That land should be free to the people of those nations... they could be self sufficient in growing their own food if the Rothschilds had to give up what they own. That's how that works. Very simple. The Rothschilds are a Jewish fam,ily and their wealth ALONE makes them a big player in what goes on in our lives day to day.
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Re: No, the 'jews' really don't control everything.. 15 Jun 2012 00:52 #23

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The 'it's teh joos' thing bugs the crap out of me. For a start, it's based on total pejorative terms, and implies that it's somehow a religious cult that runs the world with all Jews involved from top to bottom.
As Andy points out, it's run by corporations for profit, and money is the sole motivation whether it be shareholders or single ownership. And as Novum points out, many of these companies are hidden inside other holding companies and their shareholders are not revealed.
There is however quite compelling evidence that links the Nazis (yes Godwin) to many of the mega corporations that led to certain trade agreements that led to the EU, amongst other monstrous structures. Though somehow I doubt our dimwitted Nazi propagandists realise any of that when they cover it up with 'it's teh joos'.
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Re: No, the 'jews' really don't control everything.. 15 Jun 2012 01:52 #24

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There is however quite compelling evidence that links the Nazis (yes Godwin) to many of the mega corporations that led to certain trade agreements that led to the EU, amongst other monstrous structures. Though somehow I doubt our dimwitted Nazi propagandists realise any of that when they cover it up with 'it's teh joos'.

Could you PM me some of those links please bandy? They might be useful elsewhere ;)
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Re: No, the 'jews' really don't control everything.. 15 Jun 2012 14:16 #25

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There is however quite compelling evidence that links the Nazis (yes Godwin) to many of the mega corporations that led to certain trade agreements that led to the EU, amongst other monstrous structures. Though somehow I doubt our dimwitted Nazi propagandists realise any of that when they cover it up with 'it's teh joos'.

Could you PM me some of those links please bandy? They might be useful elsewhere ;)

Worth a thread of its own dontcha think?
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Re: No, the 'jews' really don't control everything.. 15 Jun 2012 14:31 #26

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dubmeup wrote:
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There is however quite compelling evidence that links the Nazis (yes Godwin) to many of the mega corporations that led to certain trade agreements that led to the EU, amongst other monstrous structures. Though somehow I doubt our dimwitted Nazi propagandists realise any of that when they cover it up with 'it's teh joos'.

Could you PM me some of those links please bandy? They might be useful elsewhere ;)

Worth a thread of its own dontcha think?

Absolutely along with how you can get accused of being with the ADL for using the word zionist instead of JEWs...ALL JEWS.
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Re: No, the 'jews' really don't control everything.. 15 Jun 2012 14:59 #27

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The 'it's teh joos' thing bugs the crap out of me. For a start, it's based on total pejorative terms, and implies that it's somehow a religious cult that runs the world with all Jews involved from top to bottom.
As Andy points out, it's run by corporations for profit, and money is the sole motivation whether it be shareholders or single ownership. And as Novum points out, many of these companies are hidden inside other holding companies and their shareholders are not revealed.
There is however quite compelling evidence that links the Nazis (yes Godwin) to many of the mega corporations that led to certain trade agreements that led to the EU, amongst other monstrous structures. Though somehow I doubt our dimwitted Nazi propagandists realise any of that when they cover it up with 'it's teh joos'.


I don't think it's fair to say it's the jews or it nazi's.

The eu evolved after the war based mainly on the fact that it was not landlocked and super countries such as the us and russia were afoot.

The thought process behind the eu was if all countries pooled their communal resources (money, food, armed forces) it would be better equipped to deal with threats .

The major power in the formation of the eu was Britain
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Re: No, the 'jews' really don't control everything.. 15 Jun 2012 15:09 #28

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The 'it's teh joos' thing bugs the crap out of me. For a start, it's based on total pejorative terms, and implies that it's somehow a religious cult that runs the world with all Jews involved from top to bottom.
As Andy points out, it's run by corporations for profit, and money is the sole motivation whether it be shareholders or single ownership. And as Novum points out, many of these companies are hidden inside other holding companies and their shareholders are not revealed.
There is however quite compelling evidence that links the Nazis (yes Godwin) to many of the mega corporations that led to certain trade agreements that led to the EU, amongst other monstrous structures. Though somehow I doubt our dimwitted Nazi propagandists realise any of that when they cover it up with 'it's teh joos'.


I don't think it's fair to say it's the jews or it nazi's.

The eu evolved after the war based mainly on the fact that it was not landlocked and super countries such as the us and russia were afoot.

The thought process behind the eu was if all countries pooled their communal resources (money, food, armed forces) it would be better equipped to deal with threats .

The major power in the formation of the eu was Britain

We'll see about that hen... :)
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Re: No, the 'jews' really don't control everything.. 15 Jun 2012 15:19 #29

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Could you PM me some of those links please bandy? They might be useful elsewhere ;)

Worth a thread of its own dontcha think?

Indeed but they may also come in handy in my ongoing thread at UKPoliceOnline :)
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Re: No, the 'jews' really don't control everything.. 15 Jun 2012 15:26 #30

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We'll see about that hen... :)

So are you saying it was the Nazi's ?

Do you mean the German's?

Blaming stuff on the Nazi's is as bad as blaming it on Jews is it not?

Your just picking a 'group' to blame stuff on?
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Re: No, the 'jews' really don't control everything.. 15 Jun 2012 15:45 #31

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Do we forgive Larry Silverstein and his role in 9-11? Do we forgive Dov Zakheim for organiziing the theft of over $2.3 trillion from the Pentagon in the two years following 9-11? Do we forgive the Rothschilds? Do we forgive those "leaders" in Israel for all of their "good work" over the years? There are a lot of examples, past and present, of Jewish criminals. I don't think the important thing to do is mention that they are Jewish everytime they are named, but the simple fact is, there are some Jewish folks in the world who do heinous things. They aren't criminals because they are Jewish, they are criminals who happen to be Jewish. Saying it's "The Jews" is misleading, and creates an automatic :roll: in most people, and it should. It's an attempt to say that all Jewish people are "in on it". When they aren't. But there are Jewish names in positions of power doing awful things, and it's OK to name them.

All Catholics aren't to blame for the atrocities of the Vatican, or for the sexual abuses of priests.... all Christians aren't to blame for the devout "Christian leaders" who kill with impunity either. But it is OK to name, blame and shame those that are up to no good. More than OK, it's necessary. Right across the board.

Playing devil's advocate though, a lot of Jewish folks occupy high positions in law, the media, the entertainment business, and medicine. An inordinately high number considering the total number of Jewish people in the world. That is something a lot of people refer to when they say "the Jews run everything..."
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Re: No, the 'jews' really don't control everything.. 15 Jun 2012 16:09 #32

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An inordinately high number considering the total number of Jewish people in the world. That is something a lot of people refer to when they say "the Jews run everything..."

It's a blatant non sequitir though isn't it
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Re: No, the 'jews' really don't control everything.. 15 Jun 2012 16:17 #33

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All Catholics aren't to blame for the atrocities of the Vatican, or for the sexual abuses of priests.... all Christians aren't to blame for the devout "Christian leaders" who kill with impunity either. But it is OK to name, blame and shame those that are up to no good. More than OK, it's necessary. Right across the board.

Correct. So you name them instead of labelling a group of millions of people like lazy idle bastards do who cba to do their own research and merely parrot others.

If I said 'ALL rich bastards' then I'd be more accurate than ALL JEWS but I'd still be inaccurate and again labelling a group.
It leaves you open to correction and someone else labelling you as a 'conspiracy nut'.

Most of the media we see prevailing today comes from America anyway.
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Re: No, the 'jews' really don't control everything.. 15 Jun 2012 16:19 #34

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An inordinately high number considering the total number of Jewish people in the world. That is something a lot of people refer to when they say "the Jews run everything..."

It's a blatant non sequitir though isn't it

I said that. I also prefaced it by saying I was playing Devil's advocate. This is what a lot of people see, and think " It's the JEWS!" and can be coverted to that ideology so quickly. Take some fact, mix in some superstition and propaganda, and you have a movement.
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Re: No, the 'jews' really don't control everything.. 15 Jun 2012 16:45 #35

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Don't get me wrong ron, I didn't mean you were falling for the non sequitir.
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Re: No, the 'jews' really don't control everything.. 15 Jun 2012 18:31 #36

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Wouldn't it be relatively simple to prove/disprove. Get a list of the richest 100/200/500(?) people and their religions, job done.
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Re: No, the 'jews' really don't control everything.. 15 Jun 2012 18:41 #37

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Wouldn't it be relatively simple to prove/disprove. Get a list of the richest 100/200/500(?) people and their religions, job done.

I doubt it would be that simple as I expect these people have many ways of hiding, therefore tracing the money right back to the originator wouldn't be easy depsite what that list may claim. That's just an assumption on my part though.
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Re: No, the 'jews' really don't control everything.. 15 Jun 2012 18:42 #38

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You'll never find out who the richest people are though oioioi

The so called 'rich lists' only publish people who are happy being named , and probably aren't actually that rich in the grand scheme of things
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Re: No, the 'jews' really don't control everything.. 15 Jun 2012 18:42 #39

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That is something a lot of people refer to when they say "the Jews run everything..."

Everything :yeahno: ?
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Re: No, the 'jews' really don't control everything.. 15 Jun 2012 20:25 #40

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Everything ?

@mikeymikey....

Yes, everything. I'm not sure if you've ever encountered a member at the David Icke Forums named rodin? He's an "expert" on all things related to all Jewish people. He's also an ADL poster boy. He once made a thread entitled "Nuclear bombs are a Jewish hoax like everything is"...... :rofl:

That's all the "proof" you need right there..... :chuckle: ]

I was just saying previously that some people do think this way. I think that due to the prevalence of Jewish surnames in entertainment, media, law and medicine, and the fact that these are high profile positions, to some folks it's easy to accept that byline. Of course anyone with a lick of common sense or basic rationale doesn't think that way.... but refer to the above example.... he seems like an intelligent guy, but you can't get through to him.
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