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Re: Shit Religions ............. 18 Aug 2012 10:21 #21

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Re: Shit Religions ............. 21 Aug 2012 00:03 #22

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Any where you have to wear a uniform or silly hat to show you are highly religious,possibly because their actions alone do not distinguish them from anybody else :rofl:
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Re: Shit Religions ............. 21 Aug 2012 01:47 #23

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Bill Maher - Atheism Not a Religion + Mitt Romney in-Law Unbaptism


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Re: Shit Religions ............. 22 Aug 2012 00:44 #24

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I guess there are many religons and cults that seem peculiar - for example, I get the Jehovah's Witnesses around all the time. They're very nice people and I'm always polite to them but have no interest in converting to a religon that won't let me wear trousers! However, each to their own - if people are happy and fulfilled in their chosen religion, and are not being abused or exploited, then I say fair play to them. It's a good thing though that there are organisations out there to help people who have been damaged by involvement with negative cults, and I think that family members of people involved in such cults would do well to keep an eye on matters. At the end of the day though, it's down to people's personal choice.

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Re: Shit Religions ............. 22 Aug 2012 01:03 #25

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At the end of the day though, it's down to people's personal choice.
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I absolutely agree Mandy and I promise I'll never, ever stand on your doorstep attempting to convert you to atheism ;)

I think that if were to be convince of a deity though, I would be most likely to sign up with the Quakers.
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Re: Shit Religions ............. 22 Aug 2012 10:16 #26

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At the end of the day though, it's down to people's personal choice.
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I absolutely agree Mandy and I promise I'll never, ever stand on your doorstep attempting to convert you to atheism ;)

I think that if were to be convince of a deity though, I would be most likely to sign up with the Quakers.

I have a lot of time for the Quakers - I looked into them quite seriously some years ago and even attended a few meetings. There's a lot about them that I like.

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Re: Shit Religions ............. 22 Aug 2012 18:36 #27

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Here's another shower of bastards Jehovah Witness
When most people think of the Jehovah Witness Watchtower they think of well groomed men and women going door to door with harmless religious pamphlets and a (rewritten) bible. What lies behind this facade is a nightmare that destroys families and lives.

The Jehovah Witness Watchtower is a big money (billion a year) mind control operation that steals the hearts, minds and ultimately the lives of it's followers. The cult uses mind control tools to keep members in line such as: milieu control, loaded language, demand for purity, confession, mystical manipulation, doctrine over person, sacred science, dispensing of existence, control of environment, closed logic, and most of all fear.

The cult has predicted the end of the world numerous times. This has lead many to take their own lives. The cult also practices medieval ritual shunning. By the time one is trapped in the cult they know no one besides other cult members. This also leads to suicide. Because the cult is obsessed with death and destruction long term exposure can lead to murder. There have been many families slaughtered by a long time cult member.

While the cult kills directly through its bogus blood ban, murder, and suicide; the cult also steals lives. Cult members are discouraged from bettering themselves or higher education and must attend many meetings per week. Cult members are only able to focus their lives on selling books and magazines and recruiting new members. Members aren't allowed to read anything critical of the cult so they don't think for themselves.

The cult uses mind control techniques to create a nowhere to run, nowhere to hide atmosphere for the members. Members must literally spy on other cult members to ensure that they have not violated cult rules. "Records" of cult members "sins" are kept by headquarters and never destroyed.

The cult breaks up families and manipulates the courts in their favor. Cult members are taught how to lie in court (theocratic warfare) so paternity cases are decided in the favor of cult members. What can you do? Educate yourself. Build awareness of cult mind control. Photocopy and distribute this flier.

Protect your family, protect your community.

:roll: they're my favourite of all I've got a bit of history with these cunts :aargh:

I've known Jehovah's Witnesses for decades and the description above simply doesn't apply to them, so for you to smear them all as bastards and cunts is just pathetic. I only ever experienced one woman who tried to push her views down my throat and basically said I would go to hell if I didn't accept them, but she was an exception and I've met many decent, sincere people who are no harm to anyone.

This doesn't mean that the organization doesn't have it's dark areas, or that some individuals in there are bastards and cunts, but I think you'll find a minority of people of that description in every walk of life. The founder of the Jehovah's Witnesses was a high ranking mason and he has a freemason's gravestone. Some of what was written in the article is true, but much of it is massively over the top (total bullshit) and sounds like a sensationalist bigotted account that could be used as a hate template for attacking others.
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Re: Shit Religions ............. 24 Aug 2012 05:17 #28

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Here's another shower of bastards Jehovah Witness
When most people think of the Jehovah Witness Watchtower they think of well groomed men and women going door to door with harmless religious pamphlets and a (rewritten) bible. What lies behind this facade is a nightmare that destroys families and lives.

The Jehovah Witness Watchtower is a big money (billion a year) mind control operation that steals the hearts, minds and ultimately the lives of it's followers. The cult uses mind control tools to keep members in line such as: milieu control, loaded language, demand for purity, confession, mystical manipulation, doctrine over person, sacred science, dispensing of existence, control of environment, closed logic, and most of all fear.

The cult has predicted the end of the world numerous times. This has lead many to take their own lives. The cult also practices medieval ritual shunning. By the time one is trapped in the cult they know no one besides other cult members. This also leads to suicide. Because the cult is obsessed with death and destruction long term exposure can lead to murder. There have been many families slaughtered by a long time cult member.

While the cult kills directly through its bogus blood ban, murder, and suicide; the cult also steals lives. Cult members are discouraged from bettering themselves or higher education and must attend many meetings per week. Cult members are only able to focus their lives on selling books and magazines and recruiting new members. Members aren't allowed to read anything critical of the cult so they don't think for themselves.

The cult uses mind control techniques to create a nowhere to run, nowhere to hide atmosphere for the members. Members must literally spy on other cult members to ensure that they have not violated cult rules. "Records" of cult members "sins" are kept by headquarters and never destroyed.

The cult breaks up families and manipulates the courts in their favor. Cult members are taught how to lie in court (theocratic warfare) so paternity cases are decided in the favor of cult members. What can you do? Educate yourself. Build awareness of cult mind control. Photocopy and distribute this flier.

Protect your family, protect your community.

:roll: they're my favourite of all I've got a bit of history with these cunts :aargh:

I've known Jehovah's Witnesses for decades and the description above simply doesn't apply to them, so for you to smear them all as bastards and cunts is just pathetic. I only ever experienced one woman who tried to push her views down my throat and basically said I would go to hell if I didn't accept them, but she was an exception and I've met many decent, sincere people who are no harm to anyone.

This doesn't mean that the organization doesn't have it's dark areas, or that some individuals in there are bastards and cunts, but I think you'll find a minority of people of that description in every walk of life. The founder of the Jehovah's Witnesses was a high ranking mason and he has a freemason's gravestone. Some of what was written in the article is true, but much of it is massively over the top (total bullshit) and sounds like a sensationalist bigotted account that could be used as a hate template for attacking others.
Jehovah's witnesses are very strongly cultic in both doctrine and behaviour, thus fitting both categories of false doctrine and mind control.

What they will tell you:
Jehovah's Witnesses are Christians (although this varies - some JWs will not say this).

What they won't tell you:
They believe that all true Christian churches are of the devil.

They believe Jesus is not God, but is the Archangel Michael - the first being created by God.

They deny that God is a Trinity.

They believe Jesus died on a stake, rather than a cross.

They deny that Jesus rose bodily from the dead.

They believe that ony 144,000 Jehovah's Witnesses will go to heaven. The rest will live forever in a paradise on Earth, never meeting the person who died for them - Jesus Christ.

They believe that salvation is impossible outside of the Watchtower.

They are not allowed to question the Watchtower leadership or teaching.

They claim you need to read the Watchtower's magazines and other material in order to understand the Bible correctly. If you don't read the Watchtower's books, you will "fall into darkness" - what they call reverting to normal Christianity.

They have falsely predicted the end of the world five times.

They have just changed a major Watchtower prediction that the end of the world would come before the generation of Witnesses born before 1914 died.


"This cartoon is from the Watchtower publication Golden Age of March 30, 1932, page 409, and is typical of similar pictures or Watchtower cartoons of the era."

They used to forbid any vaccinations or organ transplants, even to save lives.

They are not allowed to have blood transfusions, even to save a child's life. Note that at the meeting of the European Commission of Human Rights (Strasbourg, Monday 2 March - Friday 13 March 1998) 194.250.50.201/eng/E276INFO.148.html under "II.Reports adopted" the Jehovah's Witnesses agreed to radically alter this position. In practice (as outlined in a letter which can be read at Comments from the Friends), the Jehovah's Witnesses do not acknowledge that they need to change their control methods.

"The applicant [Christian Association Jehovah's Witnesses in Bulgaria] undertook with regard to its stance on blood transfusions to draft a statement for inclusion in its statute providing that members should have free choice in the matter for themselves and their children, without any control or sanction on the part of the association."

– European Commission of Human Rights, March 1998.

"The phrasing that is to be incorporated into the statutes of the Christian Association of Jehovah's Witnesses in Bulgaria describes the manner in which Jehovah's Witnesses have traditionally handled these matters."

"Before a person becomes one of Jehovah's Witnesses, the Bible standards are clearly explained. Of course, if someone as a baptized member of Jehovah's Witnesses engages in conduct that falls outside of those Bible standards, efforts are made in a kindly manner to help the erring one recover spiritually. If one refuses such assistance and refuses to uphold Bible standards, including Bible standards regarding the misuse of blood, then this may at times lead to the Scriptural action of disfellowshipping.-1 Corinthians 5:11-13."

– Watchtower letter, August 1998.

They are encouraged to visit homes for at least 10 hours per month distributing Watchtower materials.

They use their own special translation of the Bible which mistranslates the original texts.

They are well known to disown, shun, and ignore any friends and family leaving the cult.

They discourage tertiary education.

They are not allowed to be in the army or wear crosses.

They are not allowed to celebrate birthdays.

They are not allowed to celebrate Christmas - the date we celebrate the birthday of Jesus Christ.

All this they will not tell you, and yet they still claim that "Before a person becomes one of Jehovah's Witnesses, the Bible standards are clearly explained."

This to me is they are a shower of bastards :roll:
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Re: Shit Religions ............. 24 Aug 2012 09:58 #29

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i agree entirely with mandy on this one - it is down to personal choice. i dislike the way in which many religions ostracize those who decide to leave the religion - this for me is the huge flashing lightbub that says something aint right. all religions can offer individuals something they feel is lacking in their lives - they can offer hope, a sense of belonging, support and friendship - to have that taken away from you because you no longer wish to have your life controlled by the religion just isnt very nice.

i am positive that if there is a god - which i am not convinced there is - but if there is i cannot imagine that 'god' would give a flying whatsit about women wearing trousers, who you love or whether your head is covered. i would imagine that any 'god' would merely want to see those he/she gave life to living that life in harmony with each other and all living things - with a good heart and an inquisitive mind. i doubt that any 'god' would seek to control or restrict or make us fearful - those are the man made parts of religion that seek to serve man not any 'god' imho.
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Re: Shit Religions ............. 24 Aug 2012 14:15 #30

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Black Cloud wrote:
They believe that all true Christian churches are of the devil.

They believe Jesus is not God, but is the Archangel Michael - the first being created by God.

They deny that God is a Trinity.

They believe Jesus died on a stake, rather than a cross.

They deny that Jesus rose bodily from the dead.

They believe that ony 144,000 Jehovah's Witnesses will go to heaven. The rest will live forever in a paradise on Earth, never meeting the person who died for them - Jesus Christ.

They believe that salvation is impossible outside of the Watchtower.

They are not allowed to question the Watchtower leadership or teaching.

They claim you need to read the Watchtower's magazines and other material in order to understand the Bible correctly. If you don't read the Watchtower's books, you will "fall into darkness" - what they call reverting to normal Christianity.

They have falsely predicted the end of the world five times.

They have just changed a major Watchtower prediction that the end of the world would come before the generation of Witnesses born before 1914 died.


"This cartoon is from the Watchtower publication Golden Age of March 30, 1932, page 409, and is typical of similar pictures or Watchtower cartoons of the era."

They used to forbid any vaccinations or organ transplants, even to save lives.

They are not allowed to have blood transfusions, even to save a child's life. Note that at the meeting of the European Commission of Human Rights (Strasbourg, Monday 2 March - Friday 13 March 1998) 194.250.50.201/eng/E276INFO.148.html under "II.Reports adopted" the Jehovah's Witnesses agreed to radically alter this position. In practice (as outlined in a letter which can be read at Comments from the Friends), the Jehovah's Witnesses do not acknowledge that they need to change their control methods.

"The applicant [Christian Association Jehovah's Witnesses in Bulgaria] undertook with regard to its stance on blood transfusions to draft a statement for inclusion in its statute providing that members should have free choice in the matter for themselves and their children, without any control or sanction on the part of the association."

– European Commission of Human Rights, March 1998.

"The phrasing that is to be incorporated into the statutes of the Christian Association of Jehovah's Witnesses in Bulgaria describes the manner in which Jehovah's Witnesses have traditionally handled these matters."

"Before a person becomes one of Jehovah's Witnesses, the Bible standards are clearly explained. Of course, if someone as a baptized member of Jehovah's Witnesses engages in conduct that falls outside of those Bible standards, efforts are made in a kindly manner to help the erring one recover spiritually. If one refuses such assistance and refuses to uphold Bible standards, including Bible standards regarding the misuse of blood, then this may at times lead to the Scriptural action of disfellowshipping.-1 Corinthians 5:11-13."

– Watchtower letter, August 1998.

They are encouraged to visit homes for at least 10 hours per month distributing Watchtower materials.

They use their own special translation of the Bible which mistranslates the original texts.

They are well known to disown, shun, and ignore any friends and family leaving the cult.

They discourage tertiary education.

They are not allowed to be in the army or wear crosses.

They are not allowed to celebrate birthdays.

They are not allowed to celebrate Christmas - the date we celebrate the birthday of Jesus Christ.

All this they will not tell you, and yet they still claim that "Before a person becomes one of Jehovah's Witnesses, the Bible standards are clearly explained."

I see very little there that I would say makes them a shower of bastards tbh. Some of it is not good for sure but the majority of it certainly is quite innocuous.
I went to school with a girl that was raised as a Jehova's Witness. She seemed loved and content. As I understand it, JW's very much work together. They come to the aid of those members that need help and devote large amounts of time, effort and personal fiat to doing that.

I'm not saying that the JW's are without fault in any way. I personally think their religious views are insane but I think the above is going just a bit too far....

FTR I personally would not have a transfusion or transplant either :dunno:
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Re: Shit Religions ............. 25 Aug 2012 00:29 #31

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dubmeup wrote:
Black Cloud wrote:
They believe that all true Christian churches are of the devil.

They believe Jesus is not God, but is the Archangel Michael - the first being created by God.

They deny that God is a Trinity.

They believe Jesus died on a stake, rather than a cross.

They deny that Jesus rose bodily from the dead.

They believe that ony 144,000 Jehovah's Witnesses will go to heaven. The rest will live forever in a paradise on Earth, never meeting the person who died for them - Jesus Christ.

They believe that salvation is impossible outside of the Watchtower.

They are not allowed to question the Watchtower leadership or teaching.

They claim you need to read the Watchtower's magazines and other material in order to understand the Bible correctly. If you don't read the Watchtower's books, you will "fall into darkness" - what they call reverting to normal Christianity.

They have falsely predicted the end of the world five times.

They have just changed a major Watchtower prediction that the end of the world would come before the generation of Witnesses born before 1914 died.


"This cartoon is from the Watchtower publication Golden Age of March 30, 1932, page 409, and is typical of similar pictures or Watchtower cartoons of the era."

They used to forbid any vaccinations or organ transplants, even to save lives.

They are not allowed to have blood transfusions, even to save a child's life. Note that at the meeting of the European Commission of Human Rights (Strasbourg, Monday 2 March - Friday 13 March 1998) 194.250.50.201/eng/E276INFO.148.html under "II.Reports adopted" the Jehovah's Witnesses agreed to radically alter this position. In practice (as outlined in a letter which can be read at Comments from the Friends), the Jehovah's Witnesses do not acknowledge that they need to change their control methods.

"The applicant [Christian Association Jehovah's Witnesses in Bulgaria] undertook with regard to its stance on blood transfusions to draft a statement for inclusion in its statute providing that members should have free choice in the matter for themselves and their children, without any control or sanction on the part of the association."

– European Commission of Human Rights, March 1998.

"The phrasing that is to be incorporated into the statutes of the Christian Association of Jehovah's Witnesses in Bulgaria describes the manner in which Jehovah's Witnesses have traditionally handled these matters."

"Before a person becomes one of Jehovah's Witnesses, the Bible standards are clearly explained. Of course, if someone as a baptized member of Jehovah's Witnesses engages in conduct that falls outside of those Bible standards, efforts are made in a kindly manner to help the erring one recover spiritually. If one refuses such assistance and refuses to uphold Bible standards, including Bible standards regarding the misuse of blood, then this may at times lead to the Scriptural action of disfellowshipping.-1 Corinthians 5:11-13."

– Watchtower letter, August 1998.

They are encouraged to visit homes for at least 10 hours per month distributing Watchtower materials.

They use their own special translation of the Bible which mistranslates the original texts.

They are well known to disown, shun, and ignore any friends and family leaving the cult.

They discourage tertiary education.

They are not allowed to be in the army or wear crosses.

They are not allowed to celebrate birthdays.

They are not allowed to celebrate Christmas - the date we celebrate the birthday of Jesus Christ.

All this they will not tell you, and yet they still claim that "Before a person becomes one of Jehovah's Witnesses, the Bible standards are clearly explained."

I see very little there that I would say makes them a shower of bastards tbh. Some of it is not good for sure but the majority of it certainly is quite innocuous.
I went to school with a girl that was raised as a Jehova's Witness. She seemed loved and content. As I understand it, JW's very much work together. They come to the aid of those members that need help and devote large amounts of time, effort and personal fiat to doing that.

I'm not saying that the JW's are without fault in any way. I personally think their religious views are insane but I think the above is going just a bit too far....

FTR I personally would not have a transfusion or transplant either :dunno:

I think that is the most idi­otic thing I have read since I’ve been here, So if you had, or was in an acci­dent and you needed a blood trans­fu­sion youwould turn it down.…I think not
And sec­ond of all if both your kid­neys started to fail and you ended up on a dial­y­sis machine you would turn down a Kid­ney Trans­plant you would turn that down too

As for Jeho­vah wit­nesses shower of Bas­tards is polite, I have seen first hand at what brain­wash­ing shit can do to peo­ple and espe­cially Chil­dren, Using manip­u­la­tion and other scare tac­tics

So if you don’t Like what I’ve stated you, Anthony65 can take a fly­ing fuck­ing leap.……
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Re: Shit Religions ............. 25 Aug 2012 19:45 #32

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Black Cloud wrote:
dubmeup wrote:
Black Cloud wrote:
They believe that all true Christian churches are of the devil.

They believe Jesus is not God, but is the Archangel Michael - the first being created by God.

They deny that God is a Trinity.

They believe Jesus died on a stake, rather than a cross.

They deny that Jesus rose bodily from the dead.

They believe that ony 144,000 Jehovah's Witnesses will go to heaven. The rest will live forever in a paradise on Earth, never meeting the person who died for them - Jesus Christ.

They believe that salvation is impossible outside of the Watchtower.

They are not allowed to question the Watchtower leadership or teaching.

They claim you need to read the Watchtower's magazines and other material in order to understand the Bible correctly. If you don't read the Watchtower's books, you will "fall into darkness" - what they call reverting to normal Christianity.

They have falsely predicted the end of the world five times.

They have just changed a major Watchtower prediction that the end of the world would come before the generation of Witnesses born before 1914 died.


"This cartoon is from the Watchtower publication Golden Age of March 30, 1932, page 409, and is typical of similar pictures or Watchtower cartoons of the era."

They used to forbid any vaccinations or organ transplants, even to save lives.

They are not allowed to have blood transfusions, even to save a child's life. Note that at the meeting of the European Commission of Human Rights (Strasbourg, Monday 2 March - Friday 13 March 1998) 194.250.50.201/eng/E276INFO.148.html under "II.Reports adopted" the Jehovah's Witnesses agreed to radically alter this position. In practice (as outlined in a letter which can be read at Comments from the Friends), the Jehovah's Witnesses do not acknowledge that they need to change their control methods.

"The applicant [Christian Association Jehovah's Witnesses in Bulgaria] undertook with regard to its stance on blood transfusions to draft a statement for inclusion in its statute providing that members should have free choice in the matter for themselves and their children, without any control or sanction on the part of the association."

– European Commission of Human Rights, March 1998.

"The phrasing that is to be incorporated into the statutes of the Christian Association of Jehovah's Witnesses in Bulgaria describes the manner in which Jehovah's Witnesses have traditionally handled these matters."

"Before a person becomes one of Jehovah's Witnesses, the Bible standards are clearly explained. Of course, if someone as a baptized member of Jehovah's Witnesses engages in conduct that falls outside of those Bible standards, efforts are made in a kindly manner to help the erring one recover spiritually. If one refuses such assistance and refuses to uphold Bible standards, including Bible standards regarding the misuse of blood, then this may at times lead to the Scriptural action of disfellowshipping.-1 Corinthians 5:11-13."

– Watchtower letter, August 1998.

They are encouraged to visit homes for at least 10 hours per month distributing Watchtower materials.

They use their own special translation of the Bible which mistranslates the original texts.

They are well known to disown, shun, and ignore any friends and family leaving the cult.

They discourage tertiary education.

They are not allowed to be in the army or wear crosses.

They are not allowed to celebrate birthdays.

They are not allowed to celebrate Christmas - the date we celebrate the birthday of Jesus Christ.

All this they will not tell you, and yet they still claim that "Before a person becomes one of Jehovah's Witnesses, the Bible standards are clearly explained."

I see very little there that I would say makes them a shower of bastards tbh. Some of it is not good for sure but the majority of it certainly is quite innocuous.
I went to school with a girl that was raised as a Jehova's Witness. She seemed loved and content. As I understand it, JW's very much work together. They come to the aid of those members that need help and devote large amounts of time, effort and personal fiat to doing that.

I'm not saying that the JW's are without fault in any way. I personally think their religious views are insane but I think the above is going just a bit too far....

FTR I personally would not have a transfusion or transplant either :dunno:

I think that is the most idi­otic thing I have read since I’ve been here, So if you had, or was in an acci­dent and you needed a blood trans­fu­sion youwould turn it down.…I think not
And sec­ond of all if both your kid­neys started to fail and you ended up on a dial­y­sis machine you would turn down a Kid­ney Trans­plant you would turn that down too

As for Jeho­vah wit­nesses shower of Bas­tards is polite, I have seen first hand at what brain­wash­ing shit can do to peo­ple and espe­cially Chil­dren, Using manip­u­la­tion and other scare tac­tics

So if you don’t Like what I’ve stated you, Anthony65 can take a fly­ing fuck­ing leap.……

Err, Black Cloud, you utter dickhead, you just replied to DubmeUp's post and tell me to take a flying fucking leap.

What a knob you are. :iitm:
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Re: Shit Religions ............. 25 Aug 2012 19:53 #33

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Do us all a favour lads.
Calm the fuck down please.
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Re: Shit Religions ............. 25 Aug 2012 22:22 #34

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Anthony65 wrote:
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dubmeup wrote:
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They believe that all true Christian churches are of the devil.

They believe Jesus is not God, but is the Archangel Michael - the first being created by God.

They deny that God is a Trinity.

They believe Jesus died on a stake, rather than a cross.

They deny that Jesus rose bodily from the dead.

They believe that ony 144,000 Jehovah's Witnesses will go to heaven. The rest will live forever in a paradise on Earth, never meeting the person who died for them - Jesus Christ.

They believe that salvation is impossible outside of the Watchtower.

They are not allowed to question the Watchtower leadership or teaching.

They claim you need to read the Watchtower's magazines and other material in order to understand the Bible correctly. If you don't read the Watchtower's books, you will "fall into darkness" - what they call reverting to normal Christianity.

They have falsely predicted the end of the world five times.

They have just changed a major Watchtower prediction that the end of the world would come before the generation of Witnesses born before 1914 died.


"This cartoon is from the Watchtower publication Golden Age of March 30, 1932, page 409, and is typical of similar pictures or Watchtower cartoons of the era."

They used to forbid any vaccinations or organ transplants, even to save lives.

They are not allowed to have blood transfusions, even to save a child's life. Note that at the meeting of the European Commission of Human Rights (Strasbourg, Monday 2 March - Friday 13 March 1998) 194.250.50.201/eng/E276INFO.148.html under "II.Reports adopted" the Jehovah's Witnesses agreed to radically alter this position. In practice (as outlined in a letter which can be read at Comments from the Friends), the Jehovah's Witnesses do not acknowledge that they need to change their control methods.

"The applicant [Christian Association Jehovah's Witnesses in Bulgaria] undertook with regard to its stance on blood transfusions to draft a statement for inclusion in its statute providing that members should have free choice in the matter for themselves and their children, without any control or sanction on the part of the association."

– European Commission of Human Rights, March 1998.

"The phrasing that is to be incorporated into the statutes of the Christian Association of Jehovah's Witnesses in Bulgaria describes the manner in which Jehovah's Witnesses have traditionally handled these matters."

"Before a person becomes one of Jehovah's Witnesses, the Bible standards are clearly explained. Of course, if someone as a baptized member of Jehovah's Witnesses engages in conduct that falls outside of those Bible standards, efforts are made in a kindly manner to help the erring one recover spiritually. If one refuses such assistance and refuses to uphold Bible standards, including Bible standards regarding the misuse of blood, then this may at times lead to the Scriptural action of disfellowshipping.-1 Corinthians 5:11-13."

– Watchtower letter, August 1998.

They are encouraged to visit homes for at least 10 hours per month distributing Watchtower materials.

They use their own special translation of the Bible which mistranslates the original texts.

They are well known to disown, shun, and ignore any friends and family leaving the cult.

They discourage tertiary education.

They are not allowed to be in the army or wear crosses.

They are not allowed to celebrate birthdays.

They are not allowed to celebrate Christmas - the date we celebrate the birthday of Jesus Christ.

All this they will not tell you, and yet they still claim that "Before a person becomes one of Jehovah's Witnesses, the Bible standards are clearly explained."

I see very little there that I would say makes them a shower of bastards tbh. Some of it is not good for sure but the majority of it certainly is quite innocuous.
I went to school with a girl that was raised as a Jehova's Witness. She seemed loved and content. As I understand it, JW's very much work together. They come to the aid of those members that need help and devote large amounts of time, effort and personal fiat to doing that.

I'm not saying that the JW's are without fault in any way. I personally think their religious views are insane but I think the above is going just a bit too far....

FTR I personally would not have a transfusion or transplant either :dunno:

I think that is the most idi­otic thing I have read since I’ve been here, So if you had, or was in an acci­dent and you needed a blood trans­fu­sion youwould turn it down.…I think not
And sec­ond of all if both your kid­neys started to fail and you ended up on a dial­y­sis machine you would turn down a Kid­ney Trans­plant you would turn that down too

As for Jeho­vah wit­nesses shower of Bas­tards is polite, I have seen first hand at what brain­wash­ing shit can do to peo­ple and espe­cially Chil­dren, Using manip­u­la­tion and other scare tac­tics

So if you don’t Like what I’ve stated you, Anthony65 can take a fly­ing fuck­ing leap.……

Err, Black Cloud, you utter dickhead, you just replied to DubmeUp's post and tell me to take a flying fucking leap.

What a knob you are. :iitm:

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Re: Shit Religions ............. 25 Aug 2012 22:40 #35

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Gentlemen, please. I'll reiterate Feather's sentiment and ask you again to refrain from the name calling. It really isn't necessary and this really isn't the most appropriate forum for it.

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