Little bit of trivia. The hill in the ad is Gold hill in Shaftesbury, the town of my birth. Many is the time I staggered up that fekker after leaving the Two Brewer's pub at it's base

For years we've been sold the illusion that it's some Northern town. all coal and clogs. Which couldn't be further from the truth. It's about 25 miles from the South Coast
It's a conspiracy I tell ee

I read before that it was a hill in Dorset in the iconic Hovis adverts.
Seems they were that poor up north they even had to borrow a hill from the yokels down south.

Some clips for the furrinurs and nostalgickous amongst us.

Hovis - Northern




Hovis - Runaway




Hovis - Very Nice Young Harold




Hovis - History



^ That is a work of genius imo. ^

All quality adverts.
The bread's good anaw.

I actually aint a fan of Hovis bread

It's a bit like cardboard to me. But then, I'm perfect, and usually make my own.

The nipper in this one is cute...

"Bread wit nowt taken out". I remember that.

dubmeup wrote: Soft bluddy southerner.

Gilly wrote: Your recipe, gies it missus, eh please, gonnae gies it?

I use a bread machine, Feather, and my favourite's a mix of white & brown flour - do you have a machine? If not, I'd recommend one, because you just put the ingredients in & set the programme - no faffing. You can put it in at night, and set the timer so that you get up in the morning to the aroma of freshly baked bread, which makes it worth getting out of bed!

I also like corn-bread, which only takes about half an hour to make from scratch - but I use yoghurt in it instead of butter-milk & put grated cheddar in. Then we eat big wedges of it, like slices of cake, with soup & stews.

As far as I know, ALL the major bread producers use vegetable oil don't they?

I dunno. I put a little bit of butter in ordinary (not corn) bread - or olive oil if it's a herb bread, but you only use a bit anyway.

The worst thing for veg oil is muffins, yet people are under the illusion that they're healthy. Make them yourself with melted butter instead. Just don't eat enough to get fat.

Aye, as I understand it, despite the hype, you're far better advised to use butter than margarine. Olive oil as I understand it is far better than say corn or soy oil. It's still 8 or 9% unsaturated fat though.
Interestingly I heard on the radio t'other day that there is a tax on saturated fat being mooted

A machine?
A bread machine?

A Northern lass who 'makes' bread with a machine?
Do you have any idea the damage you've done to my stereotype generator?

S'ok, I'll phone Greggs helpline and ask them.



*Wipes away another tear of lost innocence as he scans the skies for Nibiru to set him free from all the pain and disillusion.*

Why does that not shock me!

I read somewhere that they've started calling margarine 'spread' in recent years because of the publicity surrounding the fact (apparently - haven't checked it out) that if you leave marge out uncovered, flies won't go near it because it's such evil shit!

Come to think of it, I didn't read it - it was a dietry expert who gave a talk at a new agey thing I went to. He reckoned the only thing you should ever use is coconut oil (both in cooking and for cleaning & moisturising your body) and avoid every food that's ready-made. You need time on your hands and a big budget for that though, sadly.

Funny you should mention coconut oil Gilly

"Cattle ranchers discovered the difference between saturated and unsaturated fats in the 1940s, when they fed their livestock inexpensive coconut oil (a saturated fat) in order to fatten them for market. But the cattle didn’t gain weight. Instead, coconut oil made them lean, active, and hungry. Next, ranchers tested a thyroid-suppressing drug. As expected, the livestock gained weight on less food, but because the drug was strongly carcinogenic, it was discontinued. By the late 1940s, ranchers discovered that soybeans and corn caused the same anti-thyroid effect as the thyroid-suppressing drug, allowing animals to gain more weight on less food. Since then, corn and soy have been the staples of feedlot cattle.

A later experiment fed animals pure unsaturated vegetable oil, pure saturated coconut oil, and various mixtures of the two. The animals’ obesity increased in proportion to the ratio of unsaturated fat in their diet, independent of the total amount of fat or calories they consumed. Animals that ate even small amounts of unsaturated oil were fat, and those that ate large amounts of coconut oil were thin."

thescreamonline.com/essays/essays5-1/vegoil.html

My step daughter has gone as far as completely removing processed, unsaturated fats from her diet. It does involve a lot more work than say sticking a ready meal in the oven but not as much as you'd think. It doesn't seem to break her bank particularly. I will say that whilst it's not a scientific observation, she does look healthier for it.

That's fascinating! And if that bloke who gave the talk is anything to judge by, it's good stuff. He looked amazing. I don't mean handsome (though he certainly wasn't ugly) I mean he absolutely oozed vigour & healthiness.

*Edit* It's a time thing too though - I often find myself throwing 'fresh' fruit & veg in the bin a couple of days after I've bought it. You couldn't buy a week's supply at one go, so you'd need to have the opportunity to go shopping every couple of days.

I think that after the planned over-indulgences of Xmas, I'm going to make an effort to do it though. Your step-daughter sounds smart.

Aye, one of the biggest cons going it seems. Akin to the prohibition of cannabis.
It's amazing what great lengths have been gone to to sell this particular lie to the unsuspecting public though aint it. I wonder if somewhere down the line there will be lawsuits, akin to the tobacco ones, started by obese people who followed advice that these unsaturated fats were healthy


edit: I keep me fruit and veg in the cold and dark Gilly and it lasts ok. Certainly it'll do a week that way. In the case of a lot of it, an awful lot longer than that. It's how we used to have potatoes most of the year for example.

There's too much gobbledy-gook & 'advice' / interference given, that people blindly believe is for their own good.

Aye and the reason I drew the connection to cannabis is that unsaturated fats being pushed on us seems to have been instigated by the lobbyists of the soy and corn producers.....