Ill tell him to his face mate when im having a beer with him.

banning beause you dont like what someone says=hows that different to sean?

hadabusa wrote:
Well Marxism is predicated on it - capitalism achieves the productive capacity that facilitates socialism - you have to go through capitalism to come out the other side. Put a spanner in those works when less economically developed countries had revolutions while advanced economies either didn't or went fascist. Though to be fair we might be living in the time right now where Marx is proved right about capitalism collapsing under its own contradictions. It's just the fallout might not be as cheery as he'd hoped for.

I see anarchism as a state of mind thing. I can't stand those guys who sit around discussing Kropotkin forever. To me it's about realising you don't really need bosses and people can achieve a lot by just working together for mutual advantage. I see it as thinking co-operatively in a dynamic way.

It's like we all need food, shelter, clothes, recreation etc - why the fuck don't we engineer things to cater for everybody's needs, but instead let half the world starve while others fly around in private jets. It makes no sense to me why we let it happen. Well it is - it's because we just accept it because we're told it's the order of things. To me it's about breaking out of those assumptions about the way things are. Maybe nothing ever changes, but it's certain nothing will unless people believe it can.

Anarchists/socialists/communists never got their way in the UK, but they helped force reform to keep people pacified. Getting the NHS, shorter working hours, union rights and all that stuff made life better for ordinary people. Then we all fell asleep and its being taken away step by step. You may never get what you're aiming for, but pushing back can be worth it if you win improvements for people. Aim high, and you'll probably get further.

well said, but the flaw lays with human greed, unfortunately.

im no exception,ill admit.

eventualy ppl come to the conclusion that owning stuff dont matter but have to be competitive to make a living, simply because there is no good social system to back them if they fail.

people confuse needs with wants and realize it dont mean anything, but too late.

if there was a social system guaranteing everything from brith to death, there would be no need for competition anymore.

maybe one day.but maybe humanity will nuke itself out of exiustence one day.

some people will shudder at the thought of my proposal and prefer a fascist system or something, and there we have the next confrontational issue.

entran­ger­mer­cen­ary wrote: yeah, lets just say he was on the forum similiar to what a retarded kid would be irl.

and he gets excluded.

he did a racist post?so what?

ronisron thinks ernst zundel, an utter neonazi hitler admirer holcaust denier felon is a hero.zundel has a neonazi folowing.

what is worse?

perspective indeed

Well, I live in Canada.…

I don’t ques­tion the Holo­caust, I just flat out don’t believe it happened as stated. There’s no way. Part of the plan of WWII was to launch a ter­ror cam­paign against the Jews in Europe to drive them to the “home­land” in Israel. What happened in the Warsaw ghetto was real. Abso­lutely. Pho­to­graphic and forensic proof exists of this. Jews were sum­mar­ily executed in cer­tain sec­tors. Sev­eral thou­sand Jews were murdered, many thou­sands more were put in intern­ment camps along with POW’s from all over, as well as Ger­man dis­sent­ers. Jews did die in intern­ment camps, but so did a lot of other people. If Jews were will­ing to relo­cate to Israel, they were given pas­sage, those who wanted to emig­rate to North Amer­ica were given a hard time. This was a forced coer­cion. This whole plan was orches­trated by Zion­ist interests in Bri­tain, and in North Amer­ica. They needed to pop­u­late Israel with a Jew­ish con­tin­gent, and not many were will­ing to move there vol­un­tar­ily.… so they were forced. They were also robbed blind for the most part.

The census records show an increase in the Jew­ish pop­u­la­tion from just under 17 mil­lion in 1933, to just over 18 mil­lion in 1950. These are total world num­bers.… the num­bers should read that approx­im­ately 12 mil­lion Jews were alive fol­low­ing WWII if the story of the Holo­caust is true. The Jews seem to be taught that per­se­cu­tion against them is a way of life.… and it seems to be, but they need to focus on just who is per­petu­at­ing this idea. I think it would be like a great weight was lif­ted if the truth of this was allowed to come out. A lot of Jew­ish people don’t believe the story either.

If we had the easy access to inform­a­tion like we do now, much like 9 –11, things like the Holo­caust, Pearl Har­bour, the sink­ing of the Lus­it­ania, the Gulf of Tonkin.…. all would have been exposed for what they were almost imme­di­ately. As it stands, it’s tougher to shake those beliefs becuase they are “his­tor­ical record” and we all have been taught these things to be fact, just as our kids are being taught that 9 –11 was done by Osama and box­cut­ter wield­ing mani­acs.

Holo­caust den­ier and anti Semite go right along with con­spir­acy the­or­ist. It’s not about labels, it’s about truth. The story of the Holo­caust being per­petu­ated only bene­fits a select group, and I don’t mean all of the Jew­ish people. I mean the folks who com­mit acts of gen­o­cide while using the lie as a shield.

i dont see how he could have damaged this forum

hadabusa wrote:
There you go, hoping if you say something enough, it will stick. You'll have to show me and everyone else where I said Zundel was a hero. Oh, and your assumptions don't count for squat, dredge up any post you can where I said Zundel was a hero. Surely it shouldn't take too long... get on it. If you're talking about my view on the Holocaust, i explained it most succinctly already on this forum, I'll help you with that;

There you go, now dig up that post of me saying Zundel is a hero. Once again your assumptions don't count for much, because you've already shown that you can't discern much for yourself. And you want (other) trolls to be allowed on the board.

hadabusa wrote:
You should take a look at this thread. It's just you can't see all the stuff he posted on that Droike's forum as it was deleted. I believe it was 'strong'.

sodlikeproductions.motion-forum.net/t198...ay-of-sunshine-forum

ronisron wrote: dont even try,man

anybody who is citing zundel thinks either very good of him or laughs at him.

dogsmilk wrote: yeah, but thats ironicaly similiar to sean caring what people post on other forums, isnt it?

i mean, 1 guy comes along to a supposed community and the community trembles in its trousers

hadabusa wrote:
I think he wanted to be banned and I meant that he's well capable of raising the stakes. I was trying to get across that he will push things quite far. Everything on sodlike was already there for everyone to see, but it didn't stop him being let in. It's what he did after he was that counted.

hadabusa wrote:
You should take a look at this thread. It's just you can't see all the stuff he posted on that Droike's forum as it was deleted. I believe it was 'strong'.

They Deleted And Moved My Posts...

Bit Like The DIF Then... Orwellian Bastards...!!!]

So These Cunts Pay To Slag Off Icke...

Bigger Fools Them...I Did It Better And I Got Bored Quicker For Free

Have You Seen It...Same Old Shit...

... WANKERS...!!!

Only It's Gonna Die A Death...!!!

entran­ger­mer­cen­ary wrote:
Why not do both?

Look forward to reading your posts on sodlike

hadabusa wrote:
I think he wanted to be banned and I meant that he's well capable of raising the stakes. I was trying to get across that he will push things quite far. Everything on sodlike was already there for everyone to see, but it didn't stop him being let in. It's what he did after he was that counted.

YOU wont be reading a post on Sods forum from me about this place.

If your so fucking concerned go do it yourself !!

dogsmilk wrote: yeah now he can claim he been unfairly banned etcetc i know.

but wouldve been better if he was laughed off instead.

i think

dogsmilk wrote:
here it is


droike.freeforums.org/icke-breakaway-forum-t272.html

Here are a few lines


sodlikeproductions.motion-forum.net/t198...ay-of-sunshine-forum

hadabusa wrote:
I think too many of us feel we have wasted too much time dealing with planks of late, be that DIF mods or DIF mod tolerated planks. This place has a definite vibe and some posters who 99% would have suspected of being here to be a plank appear to be getting that vibe. Anyone who doesn't can go find somewhere that has the vibe they require. The foundation of this place seems to be mutual respect, anyone who obviously doesn't want to cement those foundations and just chip away at them can fuck off for me, and that is all sod did.