Here we are perched upon the solstice and the dawn corous was the best I have heard this year, nature prepares for what is ahead of her, for her very survival counts on what she does in the next few weeks.

I wish I could say the same for a main sream media aware populous, who get their fixes several times a day through one of many electronic windows, something we gave up many years ago with much difficulty when we first tried hiding the remote.

For those who think this is easy to do one might like to try going without their electroprozac of news and icke or sean for a week and spend the week after trying to catch up like it really matters for what nature is concentrating on now and those coming weeks.

One thing I see is a continum of traffic coming over from the body count from the alternative window is confusion and a model of self destruction in a continous stream of psy operation to break down the normality we call truth science, being destroyed from within and to a rehearsed pattern, like this all new confession box of a so called theraputical reality being led by a populous themselves on the whole incapable of doing many of the things what is needed without another form of therapy in cyberland, skilled in the thinking processes supplied by the institutions the same institutions that skillfully removed basic intuitions and replaced hand to eye with eye to head techniques designed to weaken their whole in so many ways.

A society who does'nt see winter approaching with no real life skills to weather the storm front approaching.

The Apprentice wrote:
You are right, nature is in full swing producing the bounty that will provide again, and again, and again.Maintaining the true cyle of love and light for us all. If we could just take hold and learn from it. Its rythm is one of life and change and sustenance for everything. Where as in contrast we as a whole serve a paradigm that is measured in destruction of nature and ourselves, and we serve that master well. We only have to look at the things we have, the things we strive for, and the cost to others by the need for corporative baubels that we desperately seek to own.
I neither need nor want cyber therapy from any forum, website or such. If thats the mindset I am dwelling in, I,m already lost. I get my therapy from watching natural life educating me , which it does all the time, if we take the time to see. Mans largest sentient beings, trees are now busy producing a bounty for the next years cycle of life, and the next. nature does not engage in wilfull destruction of other beings as we do, even if we do so in ignorance. We need to remove our complicity in wilfully conducting a lifeset that infinges on the well being of others for the benefit of our selves.
And I agree with you whole heartedly app, we will only get that when we engage the mind, the hands, and the eyes in pursuit of that paradigm. I
If I cant provide for myself, why should I expect others to do so for me, at their own personal salvation, and cost.

Good post apprentice, I enjoy the message.

griswald

The walking upon childerick speech at its best.



The message my Grandfather taught me sticks like glue and now look at or feet and what they are wearing, now look at our hands that should be making them.

The Apprentice wrote:
Brilliant speech of Ickes, heard it a few times before.
But as long as we bow to the whims of the large corpo and multinational by consuming their products at an ever increasing rate, we will offer the worlds children into continual servitude around the planet. Nike and the likes are quite happy to fund child slave labour camps in making their products, children as young as 3 , serving at the millwheel of human suffering created by the 20% , us. Unless we are able to make some acknowledgement that its within our power to stop feeding the system thats creating intolerable pain for others, we are never going to create something that benefits us all as a whole. And for that to happen we need to accept that our personal needs have the power within them to cause pain to others, as well as love. Change has to come from us as an individual first, in order to change things for the whole.

griswald

Griswald wrote:
Our collective power yes.
Individual power no, not unless you wanna go Breivhik

andyh wrote:
You will have to gain control of your complete individual self first, and master all that it can be, in order to become a purposeful part of the whole.Master that skill, and then help others do the same.

I dont believe ghandi started off anything like Breivhik

gris

I like our friend Apprentice, his posts are always thought provoking (in a good way)...

However, can someone explain what "child­er­ick" is?

Sorry to be a numb-nuts again...but this has bugged me for years now.

jhado wrote:
You're not a numbnut, Master. I oft don't understand what my dear British cousins say, either.

Anyway, its a new moon phase. Pay attention! A good time to invest in auspicious-centric sectors during such a time. Remember, it was told to use little over three decades ago that there would be no government retirement supplementation, nor actually any beneficial government supplemental programs left for us in our elder years withing 30-40 years. The financial sages were correct, and I've no SUV to live in.

Coco wrote:
Just think of the children that we offer into servitude by feeding the current paradigm , for those baubels we covet at another little souls cost.

gris

When we buy an item or many items from the next day delivery paradigm we rarely stop to think where it comes from and what the costs are or what effects it is having on our well being.
For instance a pair of top runners/shoes cost say 65 qid, yet the 60pence a day worker or the 90 dollar monthly manager see little of their labour when the finished off the production line is as little as a few pounds a pair.

Today the workers in China are starting to question this greed and are being replaced in hours sometimes minuites if they speak out.
Same has happened in Nigeria of late where their all but cashless society replaced 24 thousand health care worker for even questioning a wage rise.

This is why I use the term childerick, every step we take in footwear made in childrens eyes we are walking to our own demise and hastening both theirs and our futures on every step.

Once my generation has ceased to breath clean air that will be it for the skilless whole and the gap will only widen as we are assimilated into worthless beings.

Back not so long ago we signed the 99 year lease for Hong Kong and our long term decline started in earnest.then we had products made in Japan and many other developed countries only for them to be assembled in China, those tides are slowly changing to be assembled in the Uk you can see it coming if you look hard enough.

There are only two usefull areas for our youngsters to keep themselves busy, and that is either leave their places of origin or feed them to the war and debt monsters to die or be shackled to the debt monster before they have a chance to earn the same illusion for their labour.

Now is the time to reskill wherever we can using the windows of oportunity that many have after signing their tickets to £1.80 per hours.

The watchers with the real life skills are still around, the self taught are some of the best tradesmen around but they simply cannot get the same in depth experience from a time served skilled pair of hands.

Helping those to help themselves is a suhttps://www.google.co.uk/url?q=https://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DeB4bYacRQms&sa=X&ei=A2_jT6u3CcXLhAfp_8jOAw&ved=0CG8QuAIwBg&usg=AFQjCNE-pLpi5xTZTfSboMb-b4npBxBtHgre way to gaining the skills and saving themselves from the debt monster and using your own labour is the perfect corporate killer, because the most valuable commodity our labour is immune to the corporate theives in doing it for yourself and trading good will with the rest who learn the things needed too.

The message is clear.









jhado wrote:

A collective of individuals mostly capable of fending for themselves, any other way is akin to the slavery model where 50% are having to create unough sustinance to keep the other 50% in the luxury they atire.

No.sustainable at best and the result is both parameters eventually die.

andyh wrote:

Griswald wrote:
Already have as far as I'm concerned.
I'm just honest about it is all

NB: Ghandi changed nothing btw, no more so than anyone else in history...incl Icke.

The Apprentice wrote:
Could you elaborate on this section of your post please?

andyh wrote:
Of course some may not want change, for the fear of it, or maybe they prosper too well in the current paradigm, but that will change. Prosperity is leaving these shores, and heading east.

griswald

Griswald wrote:
I don't think its even heading east tbh, their income relies on the wests.

dubmeup wrote:
The accessibility to the skills for self sufficiency are disappearing as fast as the generation that had them are dying. You wont find anyone then that can teach you about woodland management coppicing or pollarding for instance. Little use in having 3 acres of native broadleaf if you cant sustain them as an ongoing crop for fuel, food ect each year. Thats where coppicing and pollarding come in. Along with the charcoal making skill, that will sustain a fuel source for you too. App and I being of this generation, will probably belong to the last that would consider similar self sufficient skills as a normal part of our upbringing. When all these skills are gone, you are then beholding to whatever medium provides you with the things that you cant provide for yourself, and at whatever cost too. So its good sense to avail of whatever opportunity you get to learn some of them that will benefit you.

I hope apps ok with that analogy, or I am in for a rude awakening if I,m wrong

griswald

Today semi professional couples or singles are not having children and the gaps between full experienced craftsmen is getting to a stage where those now realising what is happening cannot find the teachers to show them. I started 10 yeas or more ago and found it hard to secure those watchers who could be bothered, I was lucky and now like to do the same.

It cannot be done via the internet, it has to be a hands on model for the new kids off the block.

Take any school leaver today and get them to dig someones garden for pocket money and you have one of your answers. The system has long been geared towards the no experience needed model for those who cannot afford the education, the univercity fees has just sealed the fate of millions of new brai.s.

dubmeup wrote:

andyh wrote:
Well if the manufacturing base is leaving these shores and going to China, prosperity is going too, but the profits may be staying with the major corpo,s that are making billions on the slave labour rates. They wont be leaving it in eu banks I,m sure, as there are far more lucrative tax free holes to put it in. The government will keep the population on ever decreasing levels of benefit, until they can flip the benefit over to an employer based subsidy, and force people to work for lower slave rates.
All in all I,d say thats profits gone east, to pay slave rates, and create new slaves in the west in the interim.

Griswald wrote:
Hehe

Well it looks about right to me :p

Griswald wrote:

Yeah I'd go for that. The companies involved don't belong east or west, just wherever the profit is.

Personally I see digital money as being the phoenix rising out of the ashes that will be the 'saviour' of the EU and eventually the US so to speak. Times will be bad and then actually get better...but it's all going to be an illusion ofc