I'm still fine-tuning my queue analogy. In trying to explain it to mrs oioioi I came up with "Imagine a queue for bread, you join it to get your daily bread, the day your bread doesn't arrive is the day to join the bread makers queue".

I would like to hear others opinions and thoughts on this.

We have world poverty and famine issues, hard-working people working for little or nothing just to get by.

I believe that as a species, we have so much potential and that we are not encouraged to even realise that we do. Ofcourse, we enter educational centers very young and are basically taught enough to keep the system currently well-oiled in varying areas. It doesn't encourage self-education nor does it nurture feelings of compassion.

And many will begin to get out there and it seems to become all man for himself. Modern society is very much a dog-eat-dog world. Somehow this is strange to me. Does the system do something to us to make us become selfish and cold? I see business men with suits sometimes just stepping over homeless folks as if they are debris on the ground while I driving downtown.

When I hear of how many billions of dollars are spent on this building project and that, I literally feel nausea when I think of what that could have bought for many. knowing how much money is thrown away and wasted on nothingness. Although, they say its all numbers on a screen, those numbers could do a whole lot right now in this current system. But its paying for warheads.

What are important things that humanity needs to realise and change? How can we apply the potential that we have to remedy the issues we are experiencing in our world today? What do you feel we can do? Nothing is too fantastic to make happen. Endless possibilities and all that.

Should we walk away from this system that doesn't seem to be working for the whole of us and start fresh, or could we stay within and change it for the better?

Then you will be sent to gulag my friend for re-education!!
But it shows there would be another roll for people to play, teaching the art of baking, and learning the art of baking are activities I propose under a socialist system would also replace queuing

p.s:I've found the wetter the bread mix the nicer, airier the bread, also leaving it to prove a few hours helps with this, i'm still trying to find a decent yeast.

Guevarista wrote:
I've found that being part of a family which possesses good baking skills is the best way for me to achieve nice bread, cakes and biscuits Just as they've found that being a part of a family that possesses good veg growing, mechanical and maintenance skills is the best way for them to live fairly 'cheaply'

Mountain wrote:
By first of all identifying what actually are the major issues to begin with and also what the underlying true causes are.

You will never solve a problem if you don't recognise the problem in the first place.

I think consumerism has a lot to answer for. It's a natural progression of the class system. We are conditioned to 'aspire' to a certain status and to accumulate symbols of this, just to let others know...

I think this has led to people becoming disempowered as they have let external factors have too much influence over their sense of self. It's not real is it? It's not like it matters or people can take their accumulated wealth (or lack of it) with them after they die. Consumerism is killing us mentally and emotionally, and it's also killing the planet. CO2 is not the enemy of the Earth, but consumerism is.

Hope that makes sense.

I think consumerism has a lot to answer for. It's a natural progression of the class system. We are conditioned to 'aspire' to a certain status and to accumulate symbols of this, just to let others know...

I think this has led to people becoming disempowered as they have let external factors have too much influence over their sense of self. It's not real is it? It's not like it matters or people can take their accumulated wealth (or lack of it) with them after they die. Consumerism is killing us mentally and emotionally, and it's also killing the planet. CO2 is not the enemy of the Earth, but consumerism is.

Hope that makes sense.

I would like to hear others opinions and thoughts on this.

We have world poverty and famine issues, hard-working people working for little or nothing just to get by.

I believe that as a species, we have so much potential and that we are not encouraged to even realise that we do. Ofcourse, we enter educational centers very young and are basically taught enough to keep the system currently well-oiled in varying areas. It doesn't encourage self-education nor does it nurture feelings of compassion.

And many will begin to get out there and it seems to become all man for himself. Modern society is very much a dog-eat-dog world. Somehow this is strange to me. Does the system do something to us to make us become selfish and cold? I see business men with suits sometimes just stepping over homeless folks as if they are debris on the ground while I driving downtown.

When I hear of how many billions of dollars are spent on this building project and that, I literally feel nausea when I think of what that could have bought for many. knowing how much money is thrown away and wasted on nothingness. Although, they say its all numbers on a screen, those numbers could do a whole lot right now in this current system. But its paying for warheads.

What are important things that humanity needs to realise and change? How can we apply the potential that we have to remedy the issues we are experiencing in our world today? What do you feel we can do? Nothing is too fantastic to make happen. Endless possibilities and all that.

Should we walk away from this system that doesn't seem to be working for the whole of us and start fresh, or could we stay within and change it for the better?

Just to add first, excellent thread!

I was having a joke the other day with a Greek anarchist about the Greek lack of respect for a good queue and stated "that's why anarchism will never happen, if people can't queue there's no hope", she laughed. Then I had a smoke and took the analogy up a gear; first we need to be able to queue, then we need to be able to recognise when the queue is unmanageable and be forming another queue to serve the original, now unmanageable queue. That to me is anarchism in a nutshell, and anarchism to me is the way to fulfill human potential.

Who really cares about humanity?

Life is about looking after your family and friends