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UK Food Production & Distribution 13 Aug 2012 02:35 #1

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Here we all go... A dedicated thread for discussions on UK food production and distribution:

Manufacturing, Chemicals, Packaging etc.
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Re: UK Food Production & Distribution 13 Aug 2012 03:13 #2

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Syngenta, Bayer, BASF, Haifa ... some of the chemicals and fertilser brands. Who wants to do some digging? :yeahno:

Dont forget the corporate retail end...the supermarkets...very important also imo.
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Re: UK Food Production & Distribution 13 Aug 2012 07:23 #3

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I make an effort to buy local from small businesses. A little green grocers near me sells some locally grown fruit and veg. Tbh I'm not sure what pesticides they use, but the produce tastes 100% better than the stuff that has been sitting in supermarkets for God knows how long. I also think supermarkets are evil, so it's nice to give my money to the little man!

Being in the country, we have loads of butchers and local people are generally loyal to them.
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Re: UK Food Production & Distribution 13 Aug 2012 11:12 #4

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novum wrote:
Syngenta, Bayer, BASF, Haifa ... some of the chemicals and fertilser brands. Who wants to do some digging? :yeahno:

I'm just gonna throw the word Nazi in here to get things started.....;)
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Re: UK Food Production & Distribution 13 Aug 2012 11:59 #5

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Here's on for you folks,

McDonald's... Now how could we tie that into the Nazi regime...? Well let me explain:

McDonalds was setup by McDonald Brothers in 1948... A milkshake vendor salesman named Ray Kroc got involved with the business and decided to propose a more streamline production system and started rolling out a franchise with the brothers...
Mr Kroc served with Mr Walt Disney in WW1 in the Red Cross... Interesting... So we now have a link between the Knights templar and the knights hospitaller.
McDonalds also had licensing for Disney Happy Meal Toys as well as franchising McDonalds as the only fast food chain in their Theme Parks and land across USA.
So look at how deep this goes, these mega corps where been setup as a point of interest over 100 years ago and it is in their best interest to stay in each others pockets even when they are disputing health issues across the world.

I'm sure you all understand the link between Disney and the Nazi regime so I need not go into that at such detail.
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Re: UK Food Production & Distribution 13 Aug 2012 12:28 #6

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I was thinking of the more direct and verifiable money trail between the likes of Bayer and BASF (note the Monsanto connections) to the third and fourth Reichs personally.

An example:
"Bayer AG is a chemical and pharmaceutical giant founded in Barmen, Germany in 1863 by Friedrich Bayer and his partner, Johann Friedrich Weskott. Today it has its headquarters in Leverkusen, North Rhine-Westphalia, Germany. It trademarked acetylsalicylic acid as aspirin in 1899. It also trademarked heroin a year earlier, then marketed it world-wide for decades as a cough medicine for children "without side-effects", despite the well known dangers of addiction.

During the First World War, Bayer turned its attention to the manufacture of chemical weapons including chlorine gas, which was used to horrendous effect in the trenches. It also built up a "School for Chemical Warfare". During this time Bayer formed a close relationship with other German chemical firms, including BASF and Hoechst. This relationship was formalised in 1925 when Bayer was one of the chemical companies that merged to form the massive German conglomerate Interessengemeinschaft Farben or IG Farben, for short. It was the largest single company in Germany and it became the single largest donor to Hitler's election campaign. After Hitler came to power, IG Farben worked in close collaboration with the Nazis, becoming the largest profiteer from the Second World War. Amongst much else, IG Farben produced all the explosives for the German military and systematically looted the chemical industries of occupied Europe. It's been described as the Nazis' "industrial jackal" following in the wake of Hitler's armies.

During the Second World War, IG Farben used slave labour in many of its factories and mines and by 1944 more than 83,000 forced labourers and death camp inmates had been put to work in the IG Farben camp at Auschwitz in Nazi-occupied Poland. Auschwitz was a vast labour and death camp where more human beings were put to death than were killed in the whole of World War I. It was comprised by 3 main camps: Auschwitz I, a concentration camp; Auschwitz II (Birkenau), an extermination camp in which by 1944 some 6,000 people a day were being killed; and Auschwitz III, which supplied slave labour for the nearby IG Farben plant (Buna-Werke, also known as IG Auschwitz). "

"Bayer, Hoechst and BASF, formed out of the assets of IG Farben in 1952. The owners of these "new" companies were also the shareholders of IG Farben. Thus, although the gravity of the crimes committed by IG Farben meant the company was considered too corrupt to be allowed to continue to exist, it was supplanted by its key constituents - companies like Bayer which were owned, and directed at the highest level, by the very same people as IG Farben. Those who had helped Hitler to power and provided the technical know-how for his wars of aggression and the Holocaust, were back in control of the industry."
Source: www.gmwatch.org/gm-firms-mobile/11153-bayer-a-history

However for anyone wanting a more in depth breakdown of things :

spitfirelist.com/books/manning.pdf
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Re: UK Food Production & Distribution 13 Aug 2012 12:34 #7

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Oh Here is another one for you:

The chips that the take-aways sell with that Chip spice... The main ingredient for that is MSG! Hence why they are so addictive.
The distribution of these french fries in the UK is done by JJ Food Service and Sodexo.. These are the biggest food distributors in the UK and sell through franchises and nearly every school on the land.

The potatoes they use are grown from the Monsantos variants also.

Monsanto UK is run by these directors:

Mr Marc Hugo Pierre Rottiers
Mr Mark Buckingham
Mr Geoffrey Hall MBA

Alongside Monsanto UK, they also are directors of the following:
MAWLAW 468
PLANT BREEDING INTERNATIONAL CAMBRIDGE LIMITED
SEMINIS VEGETABLE SEEDS U.K. LTD.
THE BRITISH SOCIETY OF PLANT BREEDERS LIMITED
CROP PROTECTION ASSOCIATION UK LTD

So in the UK they have links from manufacturing, breeding and I guess hold a huge list of every grower and species in the UK...

So the buyers of the end products all using Monsantos resources include McDonalds, JJ Foods, Sodexo, Yum Brands and nearly every take away, restaurant and food producers.
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Re: UK Food Production & Distribution 13 Aug 2012 12:36 #8

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So how can we link this to food production now Dub?
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Re: UK Food Production & Distribution 13 Aug 2012 12:41 #9

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For a start as Novum has pointed out Bayer and BASF are major players in the world of GM and agrochemicals. They work in cohort with Monsanto, who of course aside from their heavy hand in GMO, DDT, aspartame etc also went a long way towards bringing us the wonder of the nuclear bomb.
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Re: UK Food Production & Distribution 13 Aug 2012 12:54 #10

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Well starting with Bayer, here is a list of the products they develop and distribute in the UK that can be linked to food production:

Nativo™ family Fungicide
Confidor™/Gaucho™ Insecticide, seed treatment
Nunhems™ Seeds
Basta™/Liberty™ Herbicide
Prosaro™ family Fungicide
Bayer Garden™/Bayer Advanced™ Consumer brand
Poncho™ Seed treatment
InVigor™ Seeds
FiberMax™/Stoneville™ Seeds
Belt™ Insecticide
Corvus™/Capreno™ Herbicide
Movento™ Insecticide
Xpro™ family Fungicide
Luna™ Fungicide
Atlantis™ Herbicides
Basta™/Liberty™ Herbicides
Confidor™/Gaucho™/Admire™ /Merit™ Insecticides
Decis™/K-Othrine™ Insecticides
Fandango™ Fungicides
Flint™/Stratego™ /Sphere™ Fungicides
Folicur™/Raxil™ Fungicides
Poncho™ Seed treatment
Proline™ Fungicide
Puma™ Herbicide

The above are taken from the Bayer website. So as can be seen they are more involved with the stages of growing.
Do you hold any information as to who uses these products specifically in the UK? It would be interesting to try and link which mega food corps are using these goods, and therefore buying the end products that have had these products used in any stage of production.

The only issue we have is that most suppliers will hide their intellectual property which can of cause include processes, suppliers and ingredients for that matter.

Does anyone have a list of all the farming companies for fruit/veg in the UK?
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Master11 wrote:
Does anyone have a list of all the farming companies for fruit/veg in the UK?

Try DEFRA or the NFU if you want that kind of info would be my suggestion
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