Sanctum Zone

Keyword
A+ A A-
Welcome, Guest
Username: Password: Remember me
  • Page:
  • 1

TOPIC: Why don't victims just kill their abusers.

Why don't victims just kill their abusers. 12 Nov 2012 18:09 #1

  • humanspirit
  • humanspirit's Avatar
  • ZONED OUT
  • Expert Boarder
  • Rank4
  • Posts: 1736
  • Thank you received: 894
  • Karma: 21
With all these stories of child abuse in the news it got me thinking why don't the victims when they grow up to be adults just go and kill their abusers?

The public wouldn't blame them and i can't see judges being to heavy on the abused people if they were caught and there was evidence to prove the victim carried out their own justice.
naivety attracts evil and evil attracts naivety
You must register to post here.

Re: Why don't victims just kill their abusers. 12 Nov 2012 18:34 #2

  • martg
  • martg's Avatar
  • ZONED OUT
  • Senior Boarder
  • Rank3
  • Posts: 717
  • Thank you received: 512
  • Karma: 40
You must register to post here.
The following user(s) said Thank You: psketti

Re: Why don't victims just kill their abusers. 12 Nov 2012 23:53 #3

  • I AM ALL I AM
  • I AM ALL I AM's Avatar
  • ZONED OUT
  • Expert Boarder
  • Rank4
  • Posts: 1407
  • Thank you received: 824
  • Karma: 59
humanspirit wrote:
With all these stories of child abuse in the news it got me thinking why don't the victims when they grow up to be adults just go and kill their abusers?

The public wouldn't blame them and i can't see judges being to heavy on the abused people if they were caught and there was evidence to prove the victim carried out their own justice.

G'day Humanspirit.

I've always wondered why parents of sexually abused children don't kill the fucker that molested their child. :dunno:

If there was the risk of a parent killing you for molesting their child, it might reduce the number of paedophiles ... one way or the other.
You can't reason someone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into.
Unknown
Last Edit: 12 Nov 2012 23:53 by I AM ALL I AM.
You must register to post here.

Re: Why don't victims just kill their abusers. 13 Nov 2012 00:01 #4

  • Space Bandit
  • Space Bandit's Avatar
  • ZONED OUT
  • Gold Boarder
  • Rank5
  • Posts: 3804
  • Thank you received: 2275
  • Karma: 70
There is always a risk of getting murdered as a paedophile by parents. A mate of mine ended up on jury service for such a case..
Set the controls for the heart of the earth.
You must register to post here.
The following user(s) said Thank You: I AM ALL I AM

Re: Why don't victims just kill their abusers. 13 Nov 2012 00:10 #5

  • psketti
  • psketti's Avatar
  • ZONED OUT
  • Hired help
  • Rankadmin
  • we cant stop here, this is dog country
  • Posts: 15528
  • Thank you received: 5668
  • Karma: 100
I AM ALL I AM wrote:

I've always wondered why parents of sexually abused children don't kill the fucker that molested their child]

Me too.

However, one must take into consideration the amount of sexual abuse that goes in within family's therefore making the above obsolete. Sadly.

In fact, I'll go out on a limb here and say that I reckon there's far more abuse goes on in average joes family than there ever will be out there in celebrity land.
the anorak hides the fact that sean is composed of 95% vaginas
You must register to post here.
The following user(s) said Thank You: dubs, hugorune

Re: Why don't victims just kill their abusers. 13 Nov 2012 00:30 #6

  • I AM ALL I AM
  • I AM ALL I AM's Avatar
  • ZONED OUT
  • Expert Boarder
  • Rank4
  • Posts: 1407
  • Thank you received: 824
  • Karma: 59
psketti wrote:
I AM ALL I AM wrote:

I've always wondered why parents of sexually abused children don't kill the fucker that molested their child]

Me too.

However, one must take into consideration the amount of sexual abuse that goes in within family's therefore making the above obsolete. Sadly.

In fact, I'll go out on a limb here and say that I reckon there's far more abuse goes on in average joes family than there ever will be out there in celebrity land.

G'day Psketti.

I recall my old man saying that if anyone touched me, my sister or my mother, that he would kill them regardless of jail time. I always though, "Fuck yeah", 'cause thinking if I had kids that's what I would do too.

When I was in the police, we used to have to do 'court security' as well, having a local and district court next to the station (Parramatta). We'd have to take prisoners from the cells up to the court house and then back again. Well, doing so, you get to sit in on a fair amount of court cases.

Anyway, I don't recall any paedophile cases that the perpetrator was not a family member. So you are probably on the mark with your call. :thumbup:
You can't reason someone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into.
Unknown
You must register to post here.
The following user(s) said Thank You: psketti

Re: Why don't victims just kill their abusers. 13 Nov 2012 00:37 #7

  • StarsChildren
  • StarsChildren's Avatar
  • ZONED OUT
  • Gold Boarder
  • Rank5
  • El Blanca Loco Uno
  • Posts: 2786
  • Thank you received: 1427
  • Karma: 45
yea, a lot happens in family now... and itd b nice to kill family members for that too.

in the case of it not being a family member, whether ur a child or an adult, u could get charged with manslaughter for going after em.
I came into this world kicking and screaming while covered in someone elses blood
and I have no problem with going out the same way :twisted:
You must register to post here.

Re: Why don't victims just kill their abusers. 13 Nov 2012 00:42 #8

  • Space Bandit
  • Space Bandit's Avatar
  • ZONED OUT
  • Gold Boarder
  • Rank5
  • Posts: 3804
  • Thank you received: 2275
  • Karma: 70
psketti wrote:
I AM ALL I AM wrote:

I've always wondered why parents of sexually abused children don't kill the fucker that molested their child]

Me too.

However, one must take into consideration the amount of sexual abuse that goes in within family's therefore making the above obsolete. Sadly.

In fact, I'll go out on a limb here and say that I reckon there's far more abuse goes on in average joes family than there ever will be out there in celebrity land.

Very true, sadly.
The fact that family members or people close to the family that are usually the abusers is perhaps far more sinister than it just being some random stranger. For example, they have greater access to the child, creating a potentially disturbing pattern of abuse for the victims.
How anybody can do this sort of thing is totally beyond me. :(
Set the controls for the heart of the earth.
You must register to post here.

Re: Why don't victims just kill their abusers. 13 Nov 2012 00:46 #9

  • I AM ALL I AM
  • I AM ALL I AM's Avatar
  • ZONED OUT
  • Expert Boarder
  • Rank4
  • Posts: 1407
  • Thank you received: 824
  • Karma: 59
You can't reason someone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into.
Unknown
You must register to post here.

Re: Why don't victims just kill their abusers. 13 Nov 2012 07:03 #10

  • Guevarista
  • Guevarista's Avatar
  • ZONED OUT
  • Voluntarily Inactive
  • Rank0
  • Posts: 1365
  • Thank you received: 247
  • Karma: 14
humanspirit wrote:
With all these stories of child abuse in the news it got me thinking why don't the victims when they grow up to be adults just go and kill their abusers?

The public wouldn't blame them and i can't see judges being to heavy on the abused people if they were caught and there was evidence to prove the victim carried out their own justice.

Have you seen The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo? :)

I'd question the idea that victims of serious abuse "grow up to be adults" in the same way as everyone, "grows up to be "adult"" if I may be so bold you should perhaps ask another question:
How does violent sexual abuse (or abuse in general and of different levels) during a child's formative years affect or influence their process of psychological development and in what ways?
The mean­ings that are the most directly prac­ti­cal are the ones that are sac­ri­ficed: the fla­vor, aroma and touch are abol­ished to the profit of the delu­sions that per­ma­nently lead sight and hear­ing astray.
You must register to post here.

Re: Why don't victims just kill their abusers. 13 Nov 2012 07:18 #11

  • MrsGood
  • MrsGood's Avatar
  • ZONED OUT
  • Senior Boarder
  • Rank3
  • Posts: 873
  • Thank you received: 388
  • Karma: 0
Are you a psychology student Guev?
You must register to post here.

Re: Why don't victims just kill their abusers. 13 Nov 2012 08:17 #12

  • dubs
  • dubs's Avatar
  • ZONED OUT
  • Voluntarily Inactive
  • Rank0
  • Goodbye and Goodluck
  • Posts: 5408
  • Thank you received: 2474
  • Karma: 69000000
Now I aint standing up for the nanny state but in my experience the qualification for abuse and neglect is wrong....

If you regularly drag your kids about by the neck, up and down stairs and throw hard objects at them that cause pain and leave bruising..........that is classed as "unacceptable parenting".
If you don't bother with basic hygiene, nail cutting, tooth brushing or nitting, send your kid to school stinking of piss because YOU were too lazy to clean them and get them fresh clothes etc etc, that is similarly classed.

The worst that happens in either or both scenarios, is you will be offered a friendly ear. Should someone start custody proceedings to address the situation, the courts will side with those that decided this is just good old "unacceptable parenting" and allow it to continue. Given all that, should you threaten/attempt to beat the living shite out of the one harming children in earshot of another, you yourself could well do time.

Needless to say, I'm not impressed with any of these nanny state fucking idiots.
Last Edit: 13 Nov 2012 08:17 by dubs.
You must register to post here.
The following user(s) said Thank You: psketti

Re: Why don't victims just kill their abusers. 13 Nov 2012 10:18 #13

  • Black Cloud
  • Black Cloud's Avatar
  • ZONED OUT
  • Gold Boarder
  • Rank5
  • Go Boil An Egg....
  • Posts: 2658
  • Thank you received: 1227
  • Karma: 22


:down:
I Speak Four Languages Sarcasm English Profanity, And Real Shit...

When we hang the capitalists they will sell us the rope we use.
Joseph Stalin
You must register to post here.

Re: Why don't victims just kill their abusers. 13 Nov 2012 10:24 #14

  • Black Cloud
  • Black Cloud's Avatar
  • ZONED OUT
  • Gold Boarder
  • Rank5
  • Go Boil An Egg....
  • Posts: 2658
  • Thank you received: 1227
  • Karma: 22


Pretty Graphical bring a puke bucket :barfonu: :facepalm:
I Speak Four Languages Sarcasm English Profanity, And Real Shit...

When we hang the capitalists they will sell us the rope we use.
Joseph Stalin
You must register to post here.

Re: Why don't victims just kill their abusers. 13 Nov 2012 14:23 #15

  • humanspirit
  • humanspirit's Avatar
  • ZONED OUT
  • Expert Boarder
  • Rank4
  • Posts: 1736
  • Thank you received: 894
  • Karma: 21
No multi quote is there on here?

I have seen the girl with the dragon tattoo and it was quite a shocking film as i didn't know anything about the story,the ending annoyed me as i wanted Mikael Blomkvist and Lisbeth Salander to skip off into the sunset at the end,just a softy me.

Is it right that people who have been abused as kid's tend to go on and abuse others or is that bullshit?

If the abused killed or just assaulted their abuser it would be a form of empowerment and most likely stop the abused becoming the abuser,a form of therapy,basic therapy?

Wonder what adverts run when to catch a predator is showing?
naivety attracts evil and evil attracts naivety
You must register to post here.

Re: Why don't victims just kill their abusers. 13 Nov 2012 19:17 #16

  • Guevarista
  • Guevarista's Avatar
  • ZONED OUT
  • Voluntarily Inactive
  • Rank0
  • Posts: 1365
  • Thank you received: 247
  • Karma: 14
MrsGood wrote:
Are you a psychology student Guev?
Not officially, but people's psychology is something I feel we must take back and understand organically :hi:

Human
Is it right that peo­ple who have been abused as kid’s tend to go on and abuse oth­ers or is that bull­shit?

If the abused killed or just assaulted their abuser it would be a form of empow­er­ment and most likely stop the abused becom­ing the abuser,a form of therapy,basic ther­apy?
I don't think generalizations are particularly accurate, though I'd wager some abusers are past victims of abuse, you can see a less extreme manifestation of this in children who are bullied at home becoming bullies at school etc imo. each case is different.

I agree that the death of the abuser can have cathartic effects on victims, I think the guilt would be huge, as you probably noticed in TGWTDTattoo Lisbeth doesn't kill the main villain at the end, merely allows him to die, she takes no active role in his expiration really, I think there's something relevant to learn from that, she didn't appropriate his guilt as I personally think may occur if she had killed him herself.
The mean­ings that are the most directly prac­ti­cal are the ones that are sac­ri­ficed: the fla­vor, aroma and touch are abol­ished to the profit of the delu­sions that per­ma­nently lead sight and hear­ing astray.
You must register to post here.
The following user(s) said Thank You: dubs
  • Page:
  • 1
Moderators: oioioi, psketti, batou
Time to create page: 0.142 seconds

Latest Members Blogs

  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
Prev Next

What is going on when it comes to 9-11 I…

The EPA (environmental protection agency) and OSHA took air samples in the days following September 11th, they reported that they found no excessive levels of asbestos contrary to other findings....

Read more

9-11 Eleven Years Later

9-11 Eleven Years Later

With the anniversary of September 11th literally just around the corner, unanswered questions still remain for families who lost loved ones during the tragic event, as well as from families...

Read more

Strange Noises, Possible Link to Mass An…

Strange Noises, Possible Link to Mass Animal Deaths

In 2008 the U.S. Supreme Court agreed to review a series of lower court rulings that restrict the United States Navy's use of sonar in submarine detection training exercises off...

Read more

Annual Server Target

Whether its 50 cents or five dollars, your donations are appreciated and help keep this community site running so we can all continue to enjoy using it.
This target is to meet our server cost for one year, June 2020 - May 2021, in USD.
$ 340 - Target
( £ 250 GBP )
donation thermometer
donation thermometer
$ 192 - Raised
( £ 140 GBP )
donation thermometer
56%
Most Recent Donation:
$122 USD on 4th Jan 2021
Bitcoin Address: bc1q0kazqya0nurfxtunxv807vm0m8852nnrrk8mj8
 
Ethereum Address: 0xe69915c80dd75df19f438d556267e04f932f057d
 
More Info: Donation options for TZ

No one is obliged to donate, please only donate what you can afford. Even the smallest amount helps. Being an active member is a positive contribution. Thank You.

TradeZone Latest

Visitors

Today5814
Yesterday3600
Week18310
Month43245
Total1141669

Your IP Address: 216.73.216.60 Your Browser and OS: Unknown - Unknown Thursday, 27 August 2026 17:47

Who Is Online

Guests : 1704 guests online Members : One member online
© 2012 – 2021 Sanctum Zone | All rights reserved. This website is a place for people to express and discuss their views on the news and world events. DISCLAIMER: Please Note: Views expressed and submitted by contributors are their own personal opinions and do not necessarily reflect the views, opinions and beliefs of the Sanctum Zone website and its founder(s) , administrators , moderators , and any other website maintenance technicians, personnel and volunteers. Articles and messages posted on this website and forum are solely the opinion of their authors.

Login or Register

LOG IN

Register

User Registration
or Cancel