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Re: satan 23 Dec 2012 23:14 #41

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Hexhammer could energy vampirism cause someone to have a bi-polar or schizophrenic like attack.

Is it like the opposite reiki healing? (hands on)

It's been talked about here before, I think Rick made a thread if i find it I will bump it.

Basically it is reversed reiki or similar practice. But it's main point is to 'feed' or strengthen yourself on th expense of somebody else, its not necessarily meant to hurt others.. But the guy who taught me about this didn't really give a damn what resulted to people he leeched upon, it was his 'satanic' ideology of not really care about others when furthering his own endeavours..

I think it might cause something like that, but after significant effort to leech on someone.. I think to cause severe harm to people by energy manipulation, it would direct psychic 'attack' not just feeding on somebodys energy... But that's another kettle of fish for another day.
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Re: satan 23 Dec 2012 23:14 #42

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I had one intense experience of energy vampirism and it left me totally empty. Like a shell. I was lucky in that someone close to me sussed out what had happened and then they and their partner spent several hours putting me right. I am eternally thankful to them for that.
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Re: satan 24 Dec 2012 02:22 #43

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Hexhammer could energy vampirism cause someone to have a bi-polar or schizophrenic like attack.

Is it like the opposite reiki healing? (hands on)

It's been talked about here before, I think Rick made a thread if i find it I will bump it.

Basically it is reversed reiki or similar practice. But it's main point is to 'feed' or strengthen yourself on th expense of somebody else, its not necessarily meant to hurt others.. But the guy who taught me about this didn't really give a damn what resulted to people he leeched upon, it was his 'satanic' ideology of not really care about others when furthering his own endeavours..

I think it might cause something like that, but after significant effort to leech on someone.. I think to cause severe harm to people by energy manipulation, it would direct psychic 'attack' not just feeding on somebodys energy... But that's another kettle of fish for another day.

Does the energy vampirism have to be hands on contact like Reiki?

Just curious because this girl did Reiki on me and might have stole my positive energy... :conf:

Could you please explain what you think a direct psychic 'attack' is also?
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Re: satan 24 Dec 2012 06:48 #44

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I could be fallen tho...lucifer still has his wings...

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Im not sure what that means exactly. :larf:

though it did remind me of this...i read that Bill Murray is perhaps coming around to finally being part of Ghostbusters 3 getting made..he's been dragging his heels for 25 years now.

its kinda on topic :umm: :larf: remember in the films they talk about bad energies and all that. :larf:

That symbol is me looking at you and trying to get out but you are the forbidden fruit.

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It's been so long since I've seen Ghostbusters that I don't remember them talking about energies. There is probably alot of things that I would get now that I didn't then. Like the gatekeeper. I had no idea what that meant then. The only thing I knew about was ghosts. I remember the slime. Ever since that movie, there have been times when I have talked to people and I swear when I'm done it feels just like I have been slimed. Like the only reason the called me was so they could insult. That I remember.

I haven't seen Bill Murray for the longest time. I had a dream about him once and he gave me an amethyst ring. :coffee:
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Re: satan 24 Dec 2012 07:12 #45

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:roll: Really, I thought that would have been obvious to you. I don't know what your problem is novum. :axe:
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Re: satan 24 Dec 2012 07:14 #46

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I haven't seen Bill Murray for the longest time. I had a dream about him once and he gave me an amethyst ring. :coffee:

:larf:

Its been years and years since ive seen either of the films too, yes theres always new things to pick up on as we know more. :up:

From memory, one of the films plots is based around bad energy building up in NYC.
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Re: satan 24 Dec 2012 07:20 #47

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:roll: Really, I thought that would have been obvious to you. I don't know what your problem is novum. :axe:

Bad non-verbal communication skills, thats what. :hahano:

Im an excellent driver though. :coolio: just like rain man.
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Re: satan 24 Dec 2012 07:26 #48

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Here is Bill Murray as a lounge singer in hell (on topic :up: ) :umm:

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Re: satan 24 Dec 2012 07:51 #49

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Bill Murray Awesome
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Re: satan 24 Dec 2012 07:55 #50

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I think he meant cool and dandy ;)

novum, look at your post number 1122. Do you know what that means? :nilly:




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Re: satan 24 Dec 2012 08:17 #51

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noseymutegirl wrote:
I think he meant cool and dandy ;)

novum, look at your post number 1122. Do you know what that means? :nilly:




:attn:

Means ive been here too long? :hahano:

or 11+22 = 33.

33 = two triangles.

two triangles = as above so below / yin and yang / light and dark....god and satan. ;)

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Re: satan 24 Dec 2012 08:34 #52

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RA, for further info on psychic attacks, talk to Sean at DIF, he seems to be quite knowledgeable about that. :chuckle:

Energy vampirism does not need to have physical contact to work... Reiki, yea, that's a controversial subject too, I don't know much about it.. This topic has went bit off the rails I think, back to the devil then. :twisted:

Why is Satan so popular in popular culture? Movies, music and stuff.. Is it because everything evil or dangerous pulls people like a magnet? Like I said, devil's got the best rock 'n roll, always has had. :D And then there's games too, there would not be games like Doom without satan being so cool character to have, cheesy catholic devil & hell makes a good background for any kind of 'demonic invasion' story at least.. Although, Dooms imagery is sort of catholic fire and brimstone hell combined with Lovecraftian hell.

Anyway, what makes Satan so cool characteer for music, movies, games etc.?

(EDIT: How cool is this, this here is my 999th message. :D )
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Re: satan 24 Dec 2012 19:51 #53

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Satan seems like a good topic as this is post number 666 for me. Is there such a thing? Is he just a religious bogeyman or a manifestation of evil in us all or a horned beast or what?


My view is that god was created by man and the devil was required in order to drive people to god and therefore the church. It kind of backfired a little when the devil became so popular but that just adds fuel for those who follow god.

That is just my view and no offense meant. The other day a couple of Jehovah's witnesses came to my house. My wife says I give people like that too much time. Either it is my English politeness or perhaps I just like to talk to people about their views etc. I let them do their sales pitch, which it really is like, then they offer to come over another time and chat. I decline citing my difference of opinion and how I think the bible was written by man and translated by man and interpreted by man. The response of course is to turn to page whatever and cite something in the book.

I enjoyed the talk. We did not agree but they seemed like nice enough people. If we had got onto other topics perhaps that would change though.


The devil is definitely a man made load of crap...the Catholic church invented it off the back of the God Pan in order to get rid of the competition at the time in Rome as those who followed and worshiped Pan were almost as powerful as they were at the time. They even used the horns and cloven feet to push their agenda.
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Re: satan 24 Dec 2012 19:54 #54

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(EDIT: How cool is this, this here is my 999th message. ) :D

That's totally cool, hex. Luv it!

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Re: satan 24 Dec 2012 20:31 #55

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johnfb wrote:
The devil is definitely a man made load of crap...the Catholic church invented it off the back of the God Pan in order to get rid of the competition at the time in Rome as those who followed and worshiped Pan were almost as powerful as they were at the time. They even used the horns and cloven feet to push their agenda.

Well that is odd, because I thought the idea preceded Christianity by at least 500 years, if not the very earliest Biblical texts.

Then there is the figure in Islam (Iblis) and Zoroastrianism (Angra Mainyu) and so on.
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Re: satan 24 Dec 2012 21:10 #56

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The devil is definitely a man made load of crap...the Catholic church invented it off the back of the God Pan in order to get rid of the competition at the time in Rome as those who followed and worshiped Pan were almost as powerful as they were at the time. They even used the horns and cloven feet to push their agenda.

Well that is odd, because I thought the idea preceded Christianity by at least 500 years, if not the very earliest Biblical texts.

Then there is the figure in Islam (Iblis) and Zoroastrianism (Angra Mainyu) and so on.

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Yeah but the CC used the cult of Pan to reinforce this idea and used Pan as their template for the devil...there is a very good documentary about it "A history of the devil"... worth a look
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Re: satan 24 Dec 2012 21:29 #57

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If one looks at comparative mythology, links can be found to trace a number of deitys back to previous religions/mythology.

Example...
Set - Egypt

Herman te Velde dates the demonization of Set to after Egypt's conquest by several foreign nations in the Third Intermediate and Late Periods. Set, who had traditionally been the god of foreigners, thus also became associated with foreign oppressors, including the Assyrian and Persian empires.

It was during the time that Set was particularly vilified, and his defeat by Horus widely celebrated.

Set's negative aspects were emphasized during this period. Set was the killer of Osiris, having hacked Osiris' body into pieces and dispersed it so that he could not be resurrected. The Greeks later linked Set with Typhon because both were evil forces, storm deities, and sons of the Earth that attacked the main gods.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Set_(mythology)


Now lets look at Typhon...

Related concepts and myths

See also: Proto-Indo-European religion#Mythology

Since Herodotus, Typhon has been identified by some scholars with the Egyptian Set.

In the Orphic tradition, Typhon leads the Titans when they attack and kill Dionysus, just as Set is responsible for the murder of Osiris. Furthermore, the slaying of Typhon by Zeus bears similarities to the killing of Vritra by Indra[6] (a deity also associated with lightning and storms), and possibly the two stories are ultimately derived from a common Indo-European source.[citation needed]

Similarities can be found in the battle between Thor and Jormungand from Norse myths, as well as (perhaps) an incident in the Irish Metrical Dindsenchas in which the Dagda fights a giant octopus.[7]

Mythologist Joseph Campbell also makes parallels to the slaying of Leviathan by YHWH, about which YHWH boasts to Job.[8]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Typhon


lets look at levithian versus YHWH
Christianity

The Leviathan of the Middle Ages was used as an image of Satan, endangering both God's creatures—by attempting to eat them—and God's creation—by threatening it with upheaval in the waters of Chaos.

Leviathan in Satanism

The Church of Satan uses the Hebrew letters at each of the points of the Sigil of Baphomet to represent Leviathan. Starting from the lowest point of the pentagram, and reading counter-clockwise, the word reads "לִוְיָתָן". Translated, this is (LVIThN) Leviathan.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leviathan

in South Semitic languages like Arabic. HWY in Arabic is connected with falling or causing to fall, leading to an interpretation of Yahweh as a storm god whose name means "He who causes to fall" (meaning rain, lightning, and his enemies) or "He causes storms". This helps explain Yahweh's attributes as a storm god (he comes to rescue Israel surrounded by darkness and thick clouds, and the earth trembles, the clouds drop water, and the mountains quake at his appearance),

Christianity

Almost all Bibles (KJV, DRC, RSV, ESV, NASB, NIV, NJPS, NRSV, NAB, NABRE, CCD, NEB, REB, NKJV, etc.), substitute the terms "LORD" and "GOD" in small caps wherever the tetragrammaton appears in the Hebrew; exceptions include the Jerusalem Bible and New Jerusalem Bible, and a few uncommon translations such as the Rotherham Emphasized Bible.

The liturgical use of "Yahweh" in vernacular worship was banned by the Vatican in 2008,[50] and the Vatican Congregation for Divine Worship and the Discipline of the Sacraments has directed that the word "Lord" and its equivalent in other languages be used instead.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yahweh

Yahweh v Leviathan

One of the oldest surviving battles in ancient mythology is the struggle of the Hebrew god Yahweh against the chaos dragon Leviathan. Though somewhat crowded out of the Bible in favor of more boring stories of the Hebrews wandering around the desert, the fish tale can be pieced together through bits found in Isaiah, Job, and Psalms.

The book of Job has the most detailed description of Leviathan


Job 41

His sneezings flash forth light, And his eyes are like the eyelids of the morning. Out of his mouth go burning torches, And sparks of fire leap forth. Out of his nostrils a smoke goeth, As of a boiling pot and burning rushes. His breath kindleth coals, And a flame goeth forth from his mouth.


universalheretic.wordpress.com/2010/01/06/yahweh-v-leviathan/


One more... :hahano:
we may therefore unhesitatingly affirm that Levi means Serpent.

Mythology speaks of a serpent that devours the sun, of a Storm-Serpent, which the Sun assails with his rays …

the monotheistic ideas of later times substituted (the sun for) Jahveh [Yahweh] who with his might lashes the sea, and who with his intelligence pierces the monster

-Ignaz Goldzihek, Mythology Among the Hebrews

archive.org/details/mythologyamongth00golduoft


SUN-Day ;)
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RA, for further info on psychic attacks, talk to Sean at DIF, he seems to be quite knowledgeable about that. :chuckle:

Energy vampirism does not need to have physical contact to work... Reiki, yea, that's a controversial subject too, I don't know much about it.. This topic has went bit off the rails I think, back to the devil then. :twisted:

Why is Satan so popular in popular culture? Movies, music and stuff.. Is it because everything evil or dangerous pulls people like a magnet? Like I said, devil's got the best rock 'n roll, always has had. :D And then there's games too, there would not be games like Doom without satan being so cool character to have, cheesy catholic devil & hell makes a good background for any kind of 'demonic invasion' story at least.. Although, Dooms imagery is sort of catholic fire and brimstone hell combined with Lovecraftian hell.

Anyway, what makes Satan so cool characteer for music, movies, games etc.?

(EDIT: How cool is this, this here is my 999th message. :D )

I have become more agnostic as i get older but there is some stuff in the entertainment industry that makes me wonder.
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