andyh wrote:
You know with the constant insults you send my way I think you have a problem with me so perhaps you should just not read my posts.

As for the topic of guns. The proposed law changes are concerned with assault rifles which you should be aware of if you follow current events at all. The original post in this topic cites certain types of weapon also.

Odd that you are talking to a sheep like me.

Sorry H could'nt help myself, after reading your last. But it reminded me of the sheeple headed towards the dicount sirens from T***o to buy themselves via digital debt a digital gun for the public child

Tom sums up guns quite nicely, for those who don't know who I mean, here have a listen.

i-baster wrote:
Odd that you can't see where this leads

Or for that matter can't see a nation state in Europe that has hardly any gun crime yet is armed to the teeth with fully automatic weapons and even grenades and rocket launchers...
Does that tell you anything? Like perhaps its not the guns that are the problem here?

In a country where people cattle charge into walmart stores to buy xboxes with $10 off and trample the staff to death in the process its not surprising to see many of them obeying everything they are told on tv.

andyh wrote:

If you look at different countries statistics you learn one big thing. They are not the same. What works in one country will not work in another. Obviously America is already flooded with guns. The problem will not just go away. Obviously gun laws alone will not stop gun deaths or school shootings.

I think it is odd that you pick a random thing like black Friday and try to paint all Americans as foolish stupid sheep. Using such broad brush strokes you miss details I think. Guns don't kill people but if people can't get assault rifles too easily,or at all, then it seems lives will be saved. After all there are stupid people out there and mentally I'll people,psychotic people etc.

I would also add better regulation of guns that are legal. I would have better healthcare for people with problems. Less medication. Testing of medications that are out there etc.

It is a complex issue so to simplify it is to fail.

A petition on the White House website calling for CNN host Piers Morgan to be deported is likely to reach 25,000 signatures, a benchmark that will mandate a White House response.

The petition, which was initiated by Infowars, states;


British Citizen and CNN television host Piers Morgan is engaged in a hostile attack against the U.S. Constitution by targeting the Second Amendment. We demand that Mr. Morgan be deported immediately for his effort to undermine the Bill of Rights and for exploiting his position as a national network television host to stage attacks against the rights of American citizens.

Infowars is calling for Morgan’s deportation for a number of very specific reasons.

- It’s one thing for an American citizen to ideologically assault and trash the Constitution, although odious such activity would be protected under the First Amendment, but Piers Morgan is a foreigner in a position of influence on prime time television. He is a foreign agent using his power to lobby for the constitutional rights of American citizens to be overturned.

- In response to Morgan’s claim about the First Amendment, James Taranto of the Wall Street Journal pointed to a transcript of Kleindienst v. Mandel, a 1972 U.S. Supreme Court ruling. It validated an effort by then attorney general Richard Kleindienst to refuse Marxist Belgian journalist Ernest Mandel entry into the country. The Court ruled that denying Mandel entry did not violate the First Amendment.

- If I was on British television every night calling for the Queen to be dethroned and kicked out on the streets, many British people would also call for me to be deported. Morgan is subverting the very foundation of American freedom, the second amendment.

- In joining with others like Mayor Bloomberg to lobby for Americans’ rights to be revoked and their property and birthright to be removed, Morgan is committing a clear act of subversion and should be deported. The fact that he is visiting with President Obama and posing for photos with him is also of grave concern.

- Morgan has ideologically aligned himself with other foreign agents in trashing the Constitution, including synthetic citizens like his CNN colleague Fareed Zakaria, the Communist Chinese government, and the Russian government (via state-controlled media).

- In other tweets, Morgan openly brags about how he is a foreign agent coming to conquer America.

- Piers Morgan’s claim that he had no knowledge of the phone hacking scandal has been described by Lord Justice Leveson as “utterly unpersuasive”. Morgan should be extradited back to Britain to face charges for his alleged involvement in the scandal.

- Public officials tasked with representing the interests of the American people have to swear an oath to uphold and protect the Constitution. In aggressively and repeatedly attempting to eviscerate that very Constitution, Piers Morgan has singled himself out as a threat to the liberties of the American people.

Although it’s likely that the White House will be forced to issue a glib response to the petition, we don’t think it’s likely that Piers Morgan will be deported. However, if all the media attention that has been focused on Morgan’s offensive and dangerous rhetoric serves as a reminder that foreigners have no business telling Americans what rights should and should not apply to them under the Constitution, then the White House petition will have been worth it.

Alex Jones link mikey? really? lol

Yep. I am quoting what utter cuntishness takes place on the infowars?

Cos of people and their lurve of guns and the persistent exceptionalism and supremacy that makes "patriots" think that they are some how a privilidged above other people

perhaps you should have actually read my post instead of seizing what you thought was an opportunity

bad luck

But never mind

Its Xmas!

American talk show host Michael Savage has been banned from entering the UK by the Home Secretary because of his political opinions and opposition to illegal immigration, which is considered “hate speech” in airstrip one.

“Home Secretary Jacqui Smith (pictured) said she decided to make public the names so others could better understand what sort of behaviour Britain was not prepared to tolerate,” according to an ITN report.

The list of 16 “unwelcome” individuals includes Neo-Nazis, former Ku Klux Klan members, racist skinhead groups and Islamic preachers supposedly linked to terrorist groups.

Alongside these appears the name of Savage, who is a conservative talk show host in the mould of Rush Limbaugh who has consistently opposed illegal immigration and the declining stature of U.S. sovereignty.

“Coming to this country is a privilege. If you can’t live by the rules that we live by, the standards and the values that we live by, we should exclude you from this country and, what’s more, now we will make public those people that we have excluded,” said Smith.

Apparently the ‘rules that people live by’ in the UK do not include the right to free speech and political opinions considered unpalatable by what whistleblowers have described as a “Stalinist cabal of control freaks” currently in power in Britain.

As we have previously reported, people are mandated by government threats, peer pressure and cultural bullying to “tolerate” all kinds of minority groups and for the most part we do exactly that. The problem lies in the fact that the very same crowd that preaches “tolerance” is totally intolerant of anyone who dares utter a word against them.

The Gibraltan plod are a pretty mellow bunch