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Understanding how powerful western mainstream media is... 06 Jan 2013 01:41 #21

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If there is a sinister agenda behind the MSM who is responsible and why do people fall for it?
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Understanding how powerful western mainstream media is... 06 Jan 2013 12:58 #22

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The rich benefit in nearly all instances of the MSM agenda.

You have to look at each article separately to see the overall picture, eg the blaming of immigrants and doleys.

Now lets just look at immigrants for a moment, the daily mail crowd runs articles that alternately blame immigrants for taking all the jobs and on the other hand it blames immigrants for being doleys.
Does anyone else see a real basic issue with this flogic? :)

Ofc it doesn't even mention that the banker bailout far exceeds the welfare budget.

The media is primarily weak when it comes to white collar crime, there is little in the way of investigative journalism and importantly harsh constant journalism that doesn't give up until the criminals are behind bars where they belong.
There's literally just Greg Palast and John Pilger left doing a good job. They're addressing the real important issues while the rest of the media is having a tommy tank.

As for why people fall for it, crap education and long term social conditioning since propaganda as kicked off by the likes of Edward Bernays.
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Understanding how powerful western mainstream media is... 06 Jan 2013 13:08 #23

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its all smoke and mirrors. that fbi foia report wub posted should be making people stop and look but has it been anywhere other than conspiracy sites? you literally have to look and read it.. you can tell someone about it but they would pass it off. but if they read it, theres no denying banks and corporations are the ruling power and they own the police, the politicians, the intelligence services.
i dont know what you can do. i think its a comfortable illusion people live inside. like snails cant survive with out a shell. like cows cant live in the wild. its co dependence to the extreme.
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Understanding how powerful western mainstream media is... 06 Jan 2013 15:50 #24

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andyh wrote:
The rich benefit in nearly all instances of the MSM agenda.

You have to look at each article separately to see the overall picture, eg the blaming of immigrants and doleys.

Now lets just look at immigrants for a moment, the daily mail crowd runs articles that alternately blame immigrants for taking all the jobs and on the other hand it blames immigrants for being doleys.
Does anyone else see a real basic issue with this flogic? :)

Ofc it doesn't even mention that the banker bailout far exceeds the welfare budget.

The media is primarily weak when it comes to white collar crime, there is little in the way of investigative journalism and importantly harsh constant journalism that doesn't give up until the criminals are behind bars where they belong.
There's literally just Greg Palast and John Pilger left doing a good job. They're addressing the real important issues while the rest of the media is having a tommy tank.

As for why people fall for it, crap education and long term social conditioning since propaganda as kicked off by the likes of Edward Bernays.
Your main point is good the last sentence is wrong I think, I don't think necessarily people "fall for it", rather than are forced by circumstances beyond their control, or by responsibilities to comply, there is always a sense of enmity in that compliance though imo, i'd say the fact they have to work, spend their time stressed out with long hours away from the family means they've had enough physical exploitation on the average working day, enough humiliation in school for a lifetime, using their free time to dwell on how many other ways they're being or have been exploited, manipulated etc would probably be counter productive, cause them to snap.
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Understanding how powerful western mainstream media is... 06 Jan 2013 16:00 #25

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Guevarista wrote:
I don't think necessarily people "fall for it", rather than are forced by circumstances beyond their control, or by responsibilities to comply.

This is the ultimate conspiracy question that plagues the DIF... :ickemullet

Because without a definitive answer the mystery of tptb can't be solved... :alien:

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Understanding how powerful western mainstream media is... 06 Jan 2013 16:09 #26

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This is the ultimate conspiracy question that plagues the DIF... :ickemullet

Because without a definitive answer the mystery of tptb can't be solved... :alien:

:dunno:
If you turn up and vote for Obama nothing will change, I assure you. You may recall that I already listed 43 things that any US president could instigate immediately that would make a massive and positive difference:

sanctumzone.co.uk/forum/Members-Chat-Are...ou-bother.html#87170
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Understanding how powerful western mainstream media is... 06 Jan 2013 17:35 #27

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wake_up_bomb wrote:
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This is the ultimate conspiracy question that plagues the DIF... :ickemullet

Because without a definitive answer the mystery of tptb can't be solved... :alien:

:dunno:
If you turn up and vote for Obama nothing will change, I assure you. You may recall that I already listed 43 things that any US president could instigate immediately that would make a massive and positive difference:

sanctumzone.co.uk/forum/Members-Chat-Are...ou-bother.html#87170
That is just you imploring somebody not to vote.
You listed 43 things you would hypothetically do as new Grand Emperor of the USA , none of those things were particularly realistic, or took the political context into account let's be honest.
Since you seem to like lists here is a list of things that have changed since Obama was elected:
www.addictinginfo.org/2012/12/30/obamas-...historic-presidency/
nothing will change
Thanks Ibaster for the link.
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Understanding how powerful western mainstream media is... 06 Jan 2013 17:42 #28

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Don't know who to blame anymore... :scratch:

Cui bono?

(and before you ask, that is not some British English slang, but Latin)
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Understanding how powerful western mainstream media is... 06 Jan 2013 17:49 #29

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Guevarista wrote:
That is just you imploring somebody not to vote.
Not at all. If people want to vote for Obama and Romney, as 98% of the population do, good luck to them. Just don't complain about anything in your life, or even bother wasting your grey matter wondering why the status quo never changes.
You listed 43 things you would hypothetically do as new Grand Emperor of the USA , none of those things were particularly realistic, or took the political context into account let's be honest.
I've already responded to this point once before.
Since you seem to like lists here is a list of things that have changed since Obama was elected:
www.addictinginfo.org/2012/12/30/obamas-...historic-presidency/
nothing will change
This list is an absolute joke. The US is flat broke. Flat fucking broke. Unless vested interests are seriously challenged, it will never recover. The dollar will collapse and lose its reserve currency status. That is a mathematical certainty. The person that wrote this list is completely delusional, and highly selective to say the least.
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