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TOPIC: Humans are good/ Nature or Nurture?

Humans are good/ Nature or Nurture? 04 Jan 2013 23:41 #21

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andyh wrote:
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I Kind of agree there andyh, but Labour forces did as much for Ancient Egypt, if not arguably way more than the ancient Pharoahs.
you can see how behaviours that are too destructive to the social group are deemed “psychopathic”, Evil etc, you might say this progression of a more universal application of positive behaviours is part of human civilization, from animal to man, nationalist to internationalist, labourer to technician etc.
So another part of this would be the personal transition from passive spectator to active agent, from productive for the forces of capital, money, to productive out of choice because we are all naturally productive of non-commodified, though sometimes marketable, things, ideas, feelings, friendships etc

Depends if you produce something of actual worth or if its just wasted energy.

Apologies for wandering in and out of topic, no I never mentioned a begining because your model of anarchy and my model movements are one and the same in many ways, in that all things we are capable of making and have made are of worth, in that they deprive the theif and benefit a common need in others, we are now living the nature of the very idea, and the way we like doing things has nurtured many others into actions they know works, if they just see it materialise.

In and out, hope that helps, basically re-skill, re-nurture, nature of this beast follows.

Correct.
What I fail to see is bothering to assign any token value to anyones work, nor for that matter should it even matter :)
Everyone should be able to do what they want to do for nothing in return other than the appreciation of the community be it large or small and that all needs should be available and plentiful anyway. In that respect token value has little meaning and therefore money and profit has little meaning, only pure experimentation both scientific and artistic.

This is approaching utopia but is still yet to be utopian btw.

Best post so far, we are working towatds this, the more we do the less we need false tokens are required, credit and interest.

If more simply did something today, the closer their utopia would be.
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Humans are good/ Nature or Nurture? 04 Jan 2013 23:45 #22

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I say do nothing today, Utopia is here :D
The mean­ings that are the most directly prac­ti­cal are the ones that are sac­ri­ficed: the fla­vor, aroma and touch are abol­ished to the profit of the delu­sions that per­ma­nently lead sight and hear­ing astray.
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Humans are good/ Nature or Nurture? 05 Jan 2013 09:29 #23

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Guevarista wrote:
I say do nothing today, Utopia is here :D

It will be when we fit the new wood burner next week, more Co2 for the planets plants, from free recycled timber, every little helps you know :D
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