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Politics at School 06 Feb 2013 00:16 #21

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Fair enough. You evidently know more about it than me, but I still think 10 is too young to do it this way though.
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Politics at School 06 Feb 2013 00:33 #22

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There are no definitive correct methods or approaches when it comes to teaching kids about life.
You can bet though that someone else is already on the case of influencing your kid.

Last Edit: 06 Feb 2013 00:35 by feather.
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Politics at School 06 Feb 2013 00:48 #23

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Gilly wrote:
My lad's just been describing today's goings on at school, which he says were the result of a government directive to all schools in the area.

They took year 5 & 6 kids in the hall this morning & split them into groups, depending on their eye colour, and made them go off into classrooms they don't normally occupy.

They told them that from now on, the brown eyed kids would only be attending school from 10am, because people with brown eyes are generally cleverer than others, so they don't need to spend as much time studying.

He's got green eyes, and they said that his group are of 'average' intelligence, so they'd be doing normal school hours.

The blue eyed kids were informed they'd have to do longer days - 8am -4pm because they are the stupidest. (He thought that was pretty funny, because my eyes are blue).

At the end of the day, they told them that this had all been an exercise to show them what it feels like to be discriminated against due to physical characteristics.

My son had guessed that was the score earlier on. & wasn't bothered, but he said that he'd felt anxious at first about being split up from his mates (all blue eyed lads).

But according to him, at lunch time, some of the blue-eyed children had been really upset & were crying - and one girl who he normally plays nicely with had told him to get lost & called him a 'green eyed freak' when he'd approached her, which he seemed fairly hacked off about.

They will be doing these kinds of exercises every day this week, at the instruction of the government.

Some people might think this is OK, because it's making them understand. But I think it's callous, unnecessary BS and the government needs to fuck right off with its political interfering. I could make my views known to the school, but at the end of the day, they're just following orders.

What do you make of it?


That's the most off the wall stuff I ever heard
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Politics at School 06 Feb 2013 01:04 #24

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feather wrote:
I love ya all dearly but you all have me a tad confused atm.
From the day you're born your head is being 'messed with'.
You could convincingly argue it is the very reason we send our kids to school.
"gimmie a child until they are seven" etc.

I see this as quite a revealing and positive way for children to not only try to understand but to actually experience discrimination, (and conversely, the negative effects being placed in a 'superior' position can have on your personality and demeanor).

Discrimination is a fact of life. (As are tears unfortunately).
Whether is gender, race, colour, appearance, religion, name your excuse ...... teaching kids what a hideous practice it is and how diminishes everyone involved can only be a good thing in my mind.

If it were a way to illustrate the point to bullies/discriminators I'd be more inclined to agree but all the 9 & 10 year olds in the country?
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Politics at School 06 Feb 2013 02:25 #25

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Politics at School 06 Feb 2013 07:14 #26

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feather wrote:
Some of life's best and most important lessons come wrapped up in tears.

I'd be more pissed off if it wasn't tackled and my kid came home and topped themselves because they were the victim.

There are a lot of things that are bad in the world though, Feather - I don't want the kids to have to experience them to teach them that they're bad, and I don't believe it's necessary. Their tackling the subject wouldn't have got my hackles up at all. It's the age group, and the ruthlessness in continuing the charade when some children were clearly very upset that I object to - and those teachers know the kids, and would have known beforehand that some would be devastated, even if only till the end of the day when the truth was revealed. An aspect of that lesson seems to me to be that trickery & deception are OK too.

I don't know, if they're prepared to go to those lengths, it makes me wonder about the object being genuinely from a purely morally decent standpoint, or if it's more about trying to mould minds inline with the continued dilution of nationality - the one world order.

I didn't talk a lot to him about racism yesterday, Mike - there was no need to because he already gets it. We discussed it with him a good while back when my husband's bigot brother put his house on the market specifically because a Pakistani family were buying the house next door to him.

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Politics at School 06 Feb 2013 18:59 #27

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An aspect of that lesson seems to me to be that trickery & deception are OK too.

You can look at that another way, they've shown children that authorities/people they might naturally trust, will use trickery and deception to create prejudices or try and divide the class.

It would be interesting to know if they sat down afterwards as a whole and discussed how they felt when they were told their eye colour was the superior or inferior one, whether those deemed superior had to listen to the experience of those deemed inferior, whether they naturally empathized with the victims of discrimination during or after the exercise.
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Politics at School 06 Feb 2013 19:13 #28

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Mike wrote:
An aspect of that lesson seems to me to be that trickery & deception are OK too.

You can look at that another way, they've shown children that authorities/people they might naturally trust, will use trickery and deception to create prejudices or try and divide the class.

It would be interesting to know if they sat down afterwards as a whole and discussed how they felt when they were told their eye colour was the superior or inferior one, whether those deemed superior had to listen to the experience of those deemed inferior, whether they naturally empathized with the victims of discrimination during or after the exercise.

That's an interesting way of looking at it. Do you know what goes on, feather?
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Politics at School 06 Feb 2013 20:57 #29

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Mike wrote:
An aspect of that lesson seems to me to be that trickery & deception are OK too.

You can look at that another way, they've shown children that authorities/people they might naturally trust, will use trickery and deception to create prejudices or try and divide the class.

It would be interesting to know if they sat down afterwards as a whole and discussed how they felt when they were told their eye colour was the superior or inferior one, whether those deemed superior had to listen to the experience of those deemed inferior, whether they naturally empathized with the victims of discrimination during or after the exercise.

They groups didn't get back together for discussion at the end of it.
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Politics at School 06 Feb 2013 22:19 #30

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Sounds like a bit of a wasted opportunity, still at least your boy has superior eye colour to the rest of his mates :D
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