The coming economic melt down is going to bring with it lots more poverty .Should we be forming collectives close to home. These could be getting together and learning how to forage and also urban gorilla gardening. Growing food everywhere on waste land,parks,commons etc. Plant and leave for someone else.

I get so many seeds a week and grow food everywhere even had onions,potatoes growing on a middle of a traffic island. more veg grown up by abbey also down the docks had lots of secret stash's of veg plots. So we do not need to have our own gardens plenty of land out there

It has already begun FC, skills is the way to reciprocate with and the things that come from those skills.

www.gmlets.u-net.com/explore/found/index.html

www.incredible-edible-todmorden.co.uk/

The sollution lies with our hands and who we part with that labour to, its the only way anyone will have anything left.

Is this the new Apocalypse since 2012 amounted to nothing?

I don't think the economy will collapse personally, it will just lurch on in a more austerity based form, you should take into account how economically viable it all is, and the private institutions that have enough wealth to stop a collapse and enough of a vested interest to want to do so.

There cannot ever be a complete collapse of the system, otherwise those feeding off it would have no food left to survive with, austerity is a two letter word.
Alternatives are what those wiser ellements in society have recognised and are doing as we speak, instead of hanging on until they have absolutely nothing left to part with, austracise ones self to one side by learning what is needed to get them the things they need, because the system will eventually deprive them of many vitals, that they could have learned themselves, from when change over period began.

The very system we allowed other slavery models to prop them up with, has now run its course, and is dragging us down kicking to those other people levels, in many ways its our own fault, helped along by greedy steering parties, who would sell their own mothers souls for a few percent, they and us both have made a killing is the common phrase, right.