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Is there really a link between poverty and obesity? 09 Feb 2013 00:07 #21

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.......... wrote:
Good thread Lesley...

But i doubt starving kids in Africa could find a link between poverty and obesity...

They'd be hard pushed to find a link between that post and this thread too :gleek:
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Is there really a link between poverty and obesity? 09 Feb 2013 00:17 #22

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Rick wrote:
It also has a lot to do with the image a well to do person / got money person has to project in some circles that keeps them from letting themselves go so they are in a constant state of diet control and self awareness.

On the flip side poor folk's pleasure is many times eating junk food and or compensating for lack of having this or that / or money with over indulgence when possible and emotional eating in times of stress.

This is basically the heart of the theory imo
I think you're correct, I eat more junk food when I'm bored or particularly morose, I also think there is a physical need to compensate for a physical lack in the quality of the food they are eating.
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Is there really a link between poverty and obesity? 09 Feb 2013 10:18 #23

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I think one thing that hasn't been mentioned so far is the pleasure dynamic. Like despite the fact junk food is bad for us, we're drawn to high fat/sugar foods because 'in the wild' such things are an important source of energy. If you're poor, you're limited as to what you can to make life more pleasurable and sitting on the sofa wolfing down KFC is a cheap way to get some satisfaction and comfort. You can't afford to book yourself onto a yoga retreat to either discover your inner self or to go on a detox slimming quest. Restricting yourself to a healthy diet can seem much more appealing if you're about to hop in the 4x4 and pop to the tennis club.
It's like when people moan about beggars spending it all on drink - if I were homeless, I reckon getting shitfaced would be a pretty attractive option. It helps you forget your shit life and you're not exactly going to be investing your money in blue chip stock.
Poverty means restricted outlets for sources of pleasure and junk food is a cheap source of pleasure. It can also be demotivating to be poor - if you're unemployed you might have all the time in the world to learn to cook really healthy cheap food and the time to shop around, but you also might not feel motivated to care that much if you're stressed about money, feeling down about your dead end life and bored shitless filling in applications you never hear back from. Sitting watching Jeremy Kyle and eating a pot noodle might be much more what you feel like doing than trying out a new recipe for lentil casserole. Similarly, after hours swiping goods through the till at Asda to barely cover the bills, you're probably going to fancy getting pissed or stuffing your face with cake. You're not going to be thinking about how that bikini is going look when you hit Hawaii next week.
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Is there really a link between poverty and obesity? 09 Feb 2013 11:31 #24

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.......... wrote:
Good thread Lesley...

But i doubt starving kids in Africa could find a link between poverty and obesity...

Yes, I suspect the starving kids in Africa are too busy blaming their parents for not having a job. :roll:
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Is there really a link between poverty and obesity? 09 Feb 2013 11:57 #25

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my mum always told me when i didn't eat all my food, there's starving kids in africa you better eat that, so i mailed some lucky kid all my crusts and brussel sprouts. just doin my part.
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Is there really a link between poverty and obesity? 09 Feb 2013 14:37 #26

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dogsmilk wrote:
I think one thing that hasn't been mentioned so far is the pleasure dynamic. Like despite the fact junk food is bad for us, we're drawn to high fat/sugar foods because 'in the wild' such things are an important source of energy. If you're poor, you're limited as to what you can to make life more pleasurable and sitting on the sofa wolfing down KFC is a cheap way to get some satisfaction and comfort. You can't afford to book yourself onto a yoga retreat to either discover your inner self or to go on a detox slimming quest. Restricting yourself to a healthy diet can seem much more appealing if you're about to hop in the 4x4 and pop to the tennis club.
It's like when people moan about beggars spending it all on drink - if I were homeless, I reckon getting shitfaced would be a pretty attractive option. It helps you forget your shit life and you're not exactly going to be investing your money in blue chip stock.
Poverty means restricted outlets for sources of pleasure and junk food is a cheap source of pleasure. It can also be demotivating to be poor - if you're unemployed you might have all the time in the world to learn to cook really healthy cheap food and the time to shop around, but you also might not feel motivated to care that much if you're stressed about money, feeling down about your dead end life and bored shitless filling in applications you never hear back from. Sitting watching Jeremy Kyle and eating a pot noodle might be much more what you feel like doing than trying out a new recipe for lentil casserole. Similarly, after hours swiping goods through the till at Asda to barely cover the bills, you're probably going to fancy getting pissed or stuffing your face with cake. You're not going to be thinking about how that bikini is going look when you hit Hawaii next week.

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Is there really a link between poverty and obesity? 09 Feb 2013 15:40 #27

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Aren't the British famous for the bakeries which stock pastries and cookies and cakes oh my!
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Is there really a link between poverty and obesity? 09 Feb 2013 16:20 #28

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Rick wrote:
Aren't the British famous for the bakeries which stock pastries and cookies and cakes oh my!

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Is there really a link between poverty and obesity? 09 Feb 2013 16:36 #29

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Is there really a link between poverty and obesity? 09 Feb 2013 16:44 #30

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Greggs always reminds me of heartburn.
Dogs always like walking past there though as some moron has usually dropped half a pastry outside.

Oh yeh, I'm always skint, but end up eating a lot of shite food. I think it's the cheap cider I drink that gives me a bit of a portly midriff though.
& smoking. & not doing enough exercise... there's many factors to obesity - much of it psychological 'comfort food'. Plus a lot of people can't be arsed to make something to eat when they're up at 6am to go to work then get home at 6pm.
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Is there really a link between poverty and obesity? 09 Feb 2013 17:36 #31

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Mike wrote:
Rick wrote:
It also has a lot to do with the image a well to do person / got money person has to project in some circles that keeps them from letting themselves go so they are in a constant state of diet control and self awareness.

On the flip side poor folk's pleasure is many times eating junk food and or compensating for lack of having this or that / or money with over indulgence when possible and emotional eating in times of stress.

This is basically the heart of the theory imo
I think you're correct, I eat more junk food when I'm bored or particularly morose, I also think there is a physical need to compensate for a physical lack in the quality of the food they are eating.

I also agree....
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Is there really a link between poverty and obesity? 12 Feb 2013 23:45 #32

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I do my shopping at Morrisons at 7.30pm so I can get all the reduced food. Pack of 8 yoghurts 15p . Im in a lot of debt so just go with what i can afford to eat really.
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Is there really a link between poverty and obesity? 12 Feb 2013 23:58 #33

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dogsmilk wrote:
Rick wrote:
Aren't the British famous for the bakeries which stock pastries and cookies and cakes oh my!

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Is there really a link between poverty and obesity? 13 Feb 2013 00:06 #34

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i bet its those 2 smug bastards hair.
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Is there really a link between poverty and obesity? 13 Feb 2013 00:09 #35

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i bet its those 2 smug bastards hair.

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