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Objectify things thread 30 Mar 2013 10:29 #41

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Mike wrote:
Do you like driving, I don't like driving, I like to experience travel, space, distance walked etc, I like to feel sweat, not sit in a bubble flying around on some rubber wheels with air conditioning, why are we always in such a rush to get places?

The idea of Utopia is itself a petit bourgeois counter revolutionary implantation, worse than heaven because it gives the idea of a hint of reality.


I didn't realize you were Che, please excuse my harshness with you, you have always been a favorite of mine
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Objectify things thread 30 Mar 2013 11:50 #42

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I took Rick's meaning as just an object that you adore - irrespective of ownership and not confined to vehicles.

for clarity - i understood that incase u was wondering, i just added my 2c about vehicles specifically. :cool:

I know. You love your cars man. :D
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Objectify things thread 30 Mar 2013 12:14 #43

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Gilly wrote:
novum wrote:
Gilly wrote:
I took Rick's meaning as just an object that you adore - irrespective of ownership and not confined to vehicles.

for clarity - i understood that incase u was wondering, i just added my 2c about vehicles specifically. :cool:

I know. You love your cars man. :D

No, i really dont, they are a money pit, and now that the government can confiscate them for petty offenses here, anything that is more than something that can get you from A to B in australia is even more of a waste of time ... but i feel that my observations are correct. :yup:

one of my mates brothers had his 360 modena confiscated for speeding, the govt will take em whether its a clunker or high end... the local ferrari dealer threw in the towel, the heydays of the 80s and 90's are long gone.

mates brother moved to california and bought an AMG, now he can drive it hard and government wont confiscate it unless he is street racing with another car. :coffee: not to mention they cost half to one quarter of what they do in australia, for the same cars.
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Objectify things thread 30 Mar 2013 12:16 #44

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Oh sorry - you gave me the impression you liked fast cars in the past. Here, they can confiscate and crush your car if you don't have a SORN or insurance. Don't think they do it automatically - just if you don't sort it out & pay the related fines. I don't know if they grab them for anything else.
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Objectify things thread 30 Mar 2013 12:51 #45

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Gilly wrote:
I don't know if they grab them for anything else.

Here they can take em for stereo too loud, 'excessive' engine noise produced (which means if u just accellerate) , squealing or spinning the wheels (even just a bit), any kind of loss of traction or control witnessed by police, speeding 30k over the speed limit, and more.

strike 1 they impound the vehicle on the spot, tow truck comes and takes it away, strike 2 they can take it permanently and sell it, all proceeds to the crown. :queen: :hahano:

example...
Ouch… $200,000 AUD Ford Falcon GT Confiscated

thirty New South Wales cops raided a car enthusiast gathering at Anzac Parade and Penrhyn Road resulitng in a in a search of 72 vehicles, 39 tickets and 18 vehicle impoundments.

The most prized… loot was a classic Ford Falcon GT muscle car which the owner claims is worth at least $200,000 AUD or about $189,000 USD. And on what grounds may you ask will this poor fella have his car impounded and sold at a government auction? This was his second burnout offense… Come on, this is beyond ridiculous now.

But that doesn’t bother Australian authorities as car impounding is a thriving business Down-Under with the State of Victoria having seized a whopping 3,437 cars between July 2006 and December 2007 generating a nice $1 million net revenue.

Sure some people act dangerously and yes there have to be consequences. But there’s something horribly wrong with a law that allows the impounding and auctioning of a car because its owner was caught a couple of times performing burnouts.

www.carscoops.com/2008/05/ouch-200000-au...d-falcon-gt.html?m=0


I once read that 25 percent of GM and Ford sales in Australia were 'performance' models.... Its probably just a coincidence that a few short years after these 'acts' *cough* were put in place by the crown, that GM and Ford cant sell many new cars anymore and have recently announced they will be closing down their auto manufacturing in australia.permanently. :chuckle:

No such issues in the USA, where celebrities are hired to promote vehicles by doing things that get them confiscated and sold off in Australia...

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Not to mention clarkson, who is frequently sideways on Top Gear while pimping testing new cars from the auto manufacturers.

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Objectify things thread 30 Mar 2013 23:57 #46

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angelchemuel wrote:
Mike wrote:
I dream real life as it used to be.
"it's ok, we told you what to dream" eerie song, but we're there now, we're even past raging against it with our Che Guevara tees, what is left?

Sketts!!


:secret2: Is Mike one of those A. N. Others? :emb:
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Ya what? :think:
the anorak hides the fact that sean is composed of 95% vaginas
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Objectify things thread 31 Mar 2013 02:35 #47

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Gilly wrote:
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I like the look if that truck too. There's something characterful about it.
I don't get it, how can a truck have character? Isn't that literally impossible? :)

Right, so you corrected Rick on the meaning of objectifying, but have never heard of personifying? :)

I disagree with your assumption. I've never yet seen an advertisement for the vehicle in the OP - I'd make a point of not paying attention to such a thing, ads bore me . But absence of advertising didn't stop me looking at the picture and deciding of my own accord that it looks rugged and attractive - yet I wouldn't associate it with masculinity. Yes, I do agree that sales techniques can have a big influence. I just don't think it's the be all and end all - that people have no minds of their own beyond what advertisers tell them to covet.

You might not consciously associate vehicles with masculinity, but I can assure you men do and you probably do have some associations on a subconscious level, after all, cars are DESIGNED, and manufactured to exert such modes of suggestion on the human subconscious.
The 'do we know what we want...etc' question - I think you're over-complicating things there. For myself, I want to be able to do things safely & practically, and enjoy physical comfort and stimulation (music, art). The fact is, no matter how some might like to view 'commodities' as a bad thing because they frown on the traps of 'consumerism', a great many commodities are necessary, and even wonderful things. So I'd buy a good quality toaster for eg, not because it fills a hole of yearning for something greater that I can never obtain in life, or because I associate it with an image of a glamorous lifestyle that I aspire to as conjured up by an advertising exec., but because I want to be able to make good toast regularly with consistent results. It's handsomely constructed and reliable, and has proven itself to be built to last, and therefore, it pleases me.
give this a google: Clotaire Rapaille - Reptilian Marketing (Video)
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