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comment nails it on the Telegraph 20 Jun 2013 17:16 #1

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Regarding this story:NHS baby deaths cover-up: Former watchdog chief Cynthia Bower and deputy implicated in suppressing CQC report
While I'm as certain as I can be that this Furness business isn't some sort of intricate conspiracy to prepare public opinion for privatization - in the UK that'd be far too high a risk electorally in the event of a leak - I'm rather less certain that it might not contribute to that consequence over time, and in the longer term.

Not least because when redneck Tea Party Yanks descend on these threads (as they sometimes do; there's a website over there that directs them to overseas stories which could be of ideological interest) to comment on an NHS story, the line is frequently: "your hospitals are death factories because socialized medicine and public facility hospitals only ever offer perfunctory, slip-shod and careless treatment; only competition and the profit motive guarantees While I'm as certain as I can be that this Furness business isn't some sort of intricate conspiracy to prepare public opinion for privatization - in the UK that'd be far too high a risk electorally in the event of a leak - I'm rather less certain that it might not contribute to that consequence over time, and in the longer term.

Not least because when redneck Tea Party Yanks descend on these threads (as they sometimes do; there's a website over there that directs them to overseas stories which could be of ideological interest) to comment on an NHS story, the line is frequently: "your hospitals are death factories because socialized medicine and public facility hospitals only ever offer perfunctory, slip-shod and careless treatment; only competition and the profit motive guarantees first class care".

And there's no shortage of Tory ultras with both sympathy for that philosophy and strong connections to people in the US who take that view; including American conglomerate business interests which would leap at the market opportunity to run a US-style insurance-based private health care service over here.

An example, I suspect, might be ex-minister Liam Fox, himself a medic, and the now defunct charity "The Atlantic Bridge" with which he and his friend Adam Werrity were associated, and which was dissolved following criticism from the Charity Commission - the prelude to the disclosures which led to his resignation from the government.

Stories such as this one readily feed into the agenda of the US neo-liberal free-market right. Too many of them, and consequent diminution of public confidence in the NHS could open a crack in the national door into which certain conglomerates would be only too ready to insert a large, hairy, muscular American toe.

www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-...-report-8666173.html

I like the fact that this is becoming increasingly obvious. :cool:
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comment nails it on the Telegraph 20 Jun 2013 17:45 #2

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I disagree that social health care necessarily leads to low standards. There is no reason why it can't be a well funded and efficient health care service...

If the people made the decisions it would be...
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comment nails it on the Telegraph 20 Jun 2013 17:55 #3

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knobmeup wrote:
I disagree that social health care necessarily leads to low standards. There is no reason why it can't be a well funded and efficient health care service...

If the people made the decisions it would be...

You're right. It doesn't and the WHO ratings of the best health care providers support that.

www.businessinsider.com/best-healthcare-...he-world-2012-6?op=1

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comment nails it on the Telegraph 21 Jun 2013 09:28 #4

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What the tories want is no healthcare but still keep national insurance, in fact, they'd want to increase it along with income taxes and all sorts of other taxation while at the same time providing fuck all for it.

Personally I'm all for getting rid of piles of crap, however, I would expect ZERO taxation in return.
If they haven't the balls to offer that then they can fuck off :D
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comment nails it on the Telegraph 21 Jun 2013 09:35 #5

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How about the Politicians can go get fucked full stop, as well as all the useless bureaucratic lackies, and there dunnie bunny pen pushing think tank cunts, just fuck off and die
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