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Going out on a limb a tad :D 15 Aug 2013 00:36 #21

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Say what you want about Dave, but i think he has a point here, :wall: it cant be good...

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Going out on a limb a tad :D 15 Aug 2013 08:28 #22

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I never got back to this thread just cos of headacheyness, & am off to work in a few minutes, but it does interest me.

While we're being assaulted by all manner of stuff in the atmosphere, some of which undoubtedly has a detrimental effect, I'm wondering if chakra meditations might be beneficial (to those who don't reject that kind of thing as nonsense) in combating it.

If you get the chakras charged up, they're meant to boost the good energy & spit out the bad stuff.

I have a mate who gave me a demo ages ago, whereby he had me hold a pendulum over each chakra, as still as I could manage. After a bit, in each position, he'd tell me he was going to focus on that particular chakra opening, and when he did that, the pendulum would spin round fast, and I couldn't stop it. It would only slow & gradually stop when he focused on closing the chakra again. What's more, he could make the pendulum rotate clockwise or anti-clockwise at will.
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Space is not something that is out there, off world, empty and separate from us. It is here, now, everywhere and you and I are made of it. We are not born of star dust as such, our bodies are born in every infinite division of space that we call moments.

What constitutes 'us', the body, the physical world, is nothing more than a set of fluxing electromagnetic fields existing within infinite space.

It is clear that within this section of the linear illusion we call time on this small/huge set of subdivisions we call Earth, a forced evolution is taking place.

We can argue the toss but even the dumbass Darwinists get that when an environment changes, evolution occurs.
This means that a person or group of persons or beings who have perchance guided the people of Earth along a limited awareness of the nature of 'reality', enough to gain considerable 'power', could potentially interfere with the electromagnetic fields that constitute our 'environment'. Remember, you and I are our neighbour's 'environment' too.

This is the real shit that's going down. The seemingly disparate 'technologies' that we rely on so much already and will become yet more reliant on in the near 'future' are interfering with the very fabric of reality. EMF pollution is with us on a huge scale. The atmosphere is being strewn with conductive 'particles' which very arguably compound the effect of EMF pollution. GMO 'foods' are already rampaging their way across the land fundamentally altering the 'time' honoured bit by bit approach of mummy nature. H2O is now H2O plus summat. The environment is being systematically changed. Evolution is already and will continue to be, happening. Quick.

There's no need for mass culls, eugenics or anything like it if you can systematically disrupt the building blocks of 'life' and 'reality'. Once you have that key, the lid to Pandora's box is literally ripped off.

That key provides the ability for those who hold it to finally complete the great work. To perfect every dream and aspiration of the selfish and the vampirical. The ultimate revolution, to coin a phrase.


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Going out on a limb a tad :D 15 Aug 2013 18:52 #24

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Do you have any thoughts beyond a nice pic of a baby sillycibe Rep?


Nice input Gilly, cheers. I'll mull over your thoughts.
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Thank you. Your OP triggered a rush of thoughts of related things I've read up on over the years, but I've been a bit off form & cabbage headed the last few days, hence can't be bothered looking at laptop screen for long. If I can wake my brain up, I'll root out some more stuff on it at the weekend.

Very briefly, it made me think of the spate of suicides a few years ago at Bridgend when the number of telephone masts had increased - looked up some stuff about links between suicides & telephone masts & found stuff about the most prolific volume of suicides being some place in Canada, which has a forrest of telephone masts. Will try to find details again. That would fall into the category, imo, of probable deliberate covert experimentation with transmissions of something that alters people's frame of mind. And my sister once sent me some links to articles about such experiments having been conducted in cities, without people's knowledge or consent, where they proved they could dramatically effect people's moods. I'll try & find that stuff too.

It relates to vibrational resonances, which made me think of some stuff I read about the singing crystal bowls, used to up;lift health & spirits & even, allegedly, facilitate astral travel.

And tons of bits & bobs over the years, which may or may not be factual (or complete fiction?) about how the elite are utilising such technologies to 'trap' people's souls to prevent their natural progression after physical death.
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Going out on a limb a tad :D 15 Aug 2013 21:35 #26

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Sorry Jhads, our connection ain't been great for a while. Vids are a pita for us at the mo so I haven't watched your link. :(
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Gilly wrote:
Thank you. Your OP triggered a rush of thoughts of related things I've read up on over the years, but I've been a bit off form & cabbage headed the last few days, hence can't be bothered looking at laptop screen for long. If I can wake my brain up, I'll root out some more stuff on it at the weekend.

Very briefly, it made me think of the spate of suicides a few years ago at Bridgend when the number of telephone masts had increased - looked up some stuff about links between suicides & telephone masts & found stuff about the most prolific volume of suicides being some place in Canada, which has a forrest of telephone masts. Will try to find details again. That would fall into the category, imo, of probable deliberate covert experimentation with transmissions of something that alters people's frame of mind. And my sister once sent me some links to articles about such experiments having been conducted in cities, without people's knowledge or consent, where they proved they could dramatically effect people's moods. I'll try & find that stuff too.

It relates to vibrational resonances, which made me think of some stuff I read about the singing crystal bowls, used to up;lift health & spirits & even, allegedly, facilitate astral travel.

And tons of bits & bobs over the years, which may or may not be factual (or complete fiction?) about how the elite are utilising such technologies to 'trap' people's souls to prevent their natural progression after physical death.

Yes, absolutely. It's well known that certain frequencies of sound effect both physio and psychological changes within humans. One thing the 'Gaians' I once lived amongst used to do that I totally got was to let out a high pitched note of the word Boo. You let the word build up within you and then release the plosive of the 'B' and continue through to the bell like tone of the 'oo'. When you do it you can literally feel it resonate within you. The Gaians used to say that it shook of "crystals" that built up within you. It certainly makes you feel nice :)

Now, accepting this to be so (that frequencies effect change in organisms), I'm contending that more than this is afoot.
I'm not suggesting that there is some secret golden frequency that will enslave us all or owt. I'm suggesting that combinations of key frequencies, when radiated across the Earth will effect change at a fundamental level of 'reality'. Evolution is an inevitabilty in that situation. Not just for humanity but all the other creatures, the rocks, the sea....It's literally a dimension hop of possibilities.

What is the effect of continuous 50/60Hz immersion on a populace? What is the effect of that in combination with microwave immersion? What is the effect of all those effects in combination with the subtle altering of the atmosphere to aid transfer of these radiating frequencies? Remember, radiation? sound? reality? Tiz all the same thing.
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Going out on a limb a tad :D 15 Aug 2013 22:40 #29

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Had a little mull Gilly and yes I reckon work on the chakras would be a very wise way indeed. If they are all good and vibrant it surely would help minimise the effects of AGEMFI (Anthropomorphic Global EMF Immersion) on an individual level. On the wider level i think we are getting into the realms of needing one heck of a group meditation :D
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Had me Chacks re-aligned recently, I recommend it :) x x x
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knobmeup wrote:

It is in my opinion highly possible that the 'localised' introduction of certain frequencies will introduce new dissonances, new harmonies, new harmonics and overtones. This must surely affect the fundamental way in which our reality is created. It is skewing the carver's hand.
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If there were an overall constant frequency or several measurable frequencies simultaneously we could measure where this fits in with harmonic scales to see what sort of psychoacoustic effect could be perceived. If the frequencies are constantly randomising or form random clusters of various frequencies at different times that would be more difficult to measure in terms of both psychoacoustics and the effect of prolonged exposure to certain frequencies, although ultimately it does still alter perception at that level.
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Going out on a limb a tad :D 16 Aug 2013 10:00 #32

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This is the one that scares the crap out of me
The history of the application of sound in warfare is, by its very nature, cloaked in secrecy and misinformation. Much of what seeps out into public perception has been filtered through government agencies who, understandably, have a vested interest in protecting such covert and often 'black' weapons programmes, and the sensationalist columns of the underground press, whose flirtation with the subject spans at least two decades. Any attempts by myself or others to verify certain 'facts' is relatively futile. We report what we hear.

Possibly the first mention of sonic warfare is the now much-cited 'Walls of Jericho' scenario — a biblical story which no doubt many of us are familiar with. The walls came tumbling down after the synchronised blast of trumpets and voices rendered it unstable. However, it is only recently that sound has seriously been considered as a valid medium for destruction. Human beings respond to certain categories of sound in a number of complex ways involving auditory perception and psycho-physiological response mechanisms rendered through the brain. Certain species of sound above (ultrasound) or below (infrasound) the levels of human auditory perception would theoretically prove most effective within the crucible of warfare.

During the Vietnam conflict in the early 70s, the US military experimented with a structured programme of psychological warfare, dubbed the Urban Funk Campaign. A sonic weapon known as the 'Curdler' or 'People Repeller' was employed to disrupt unruly crowds, and generally irritate the enemy during the night. Audio frequency oscillators were mounted on helicopters, and blasted frequencies at 'Charlie', ranging from 500-5000 Hz at an amplitude of 120dB – equivalent to the roar of a jet engine at close quarters. This was a highly effective panic-inducing weapon, which was also reputedly deployed during the height of the Northern Ireland conflict. The Urban Funk Campaign also employed an 'audio harassment' programme, Wandering Soul, in which recordings of eerie sounds said to represent the souls of the dead were played through the night in order to spook the superstitious enemy. Despite eventually realising that they were hearing a recording beamed from a helicopter, the enemy snipers could not suppress the fear that their souls would some day end up moaning and wailing in a similar fashion after death.

Urban Funk Campaign was also putatively responsible for the 'Squawk Box' – a device which the British MoD denied existed, although authorities in Lisburn confirmed the existence of the Curdler, which they claimed was in storage, but never used. The Squawk Box was a developmental weapon initiated by a joint military/civilian group of scientists and technicians working in secrecy and with a high degree of autonomy in Lisburn (New Scientist, Sept 1973). Mounted on a Land Rover or similar carrier vehicle, this device housed in a 3ft cube was able to emit two marginally different frequencies (eg 16,000 & 16,002 Hz). These component frequencies, their sum and difference, produced a subsonic harmonic of 2Hz (infrasound). It's effective beam was so small and directional that it could target individuals, producing 'spooky' psycho-physiological effects such as panic, vomiting, and seizures. It is worthy of note that infrasound is particularly effective in the arousal of fear or anxiety. The experience of auditory stimuli is a function of the nervous system. We are culturally conditioned to interpret sounds, and recognise them, which is why we are roused to anxiety by an experience we can neither interpret nor dismiss as 'noise'. The very fact that infrasound can be 'felt' but not heard creates a frustrated perceptual impulse. Anxiety can only be resolved by attaching it to an object or cause. In the absence of either, we tend to create one, and in most instances we create a supernatural or preternatural one.

We have spoken so far about psycho-physiological effects of sound as a weapon – but what about the purely physical effects? Going back to our Walls of Jericho scenario, the phenomenon of resonance can potentially be amplified to cause destruction. The opera singer, Caruso, was able to shatter wine glasses with a single note sung at the sympathetic frequency of the glass. In theory the same phenomenon could be created synthetically. In the early 1970's, acoustic engineer Vladimir Gavreau was experimenting with infrasound weaponry. Now the stuff of infrasound legend, Gavreau was responsible for the construction of a giant 6ft whistle, powered by compressed air, which reputedly scrambled the inner organs of it's unfortunate operator (a phenomenon known as 'cavitation', where the internal physiology was fatally resonated). Distraught, Gavreau ceased his experiments, but left behind plans and models for highly sophisticated, directional sound cannons, which were apparently seized by the French authorities. In a recent conference with Dr Guy Peter Manners, Professor of Cymatics (a form of sonic therapy), I happened to enquire about his knowledge of Gavreau. It appears that what I had previously assumed was legend was almost certainly true. Although Manners was reluctant to divulge details, he informed me of certain facts which cannot be repeated here as they would breach the conditions of the Official Secrets Act. Manners also informed me of experiments which he had first hand experience of in wartime Germany, where sonic weapons were being developed under a highly classified strategy initiated and financed by Hitler's government. Once again, frustratingly, I cannot release such information for at least two more years, but a separate source reveals the fact that the Germans were pioneering a sound-based weapon known as the 'Luftkanone', developed at Talstation Lofer. This was a parabolic device which, although untested on humans, was apparently... 'capable of killing a man with sound pressure in about 30-40 seconds. At greater ranges, although not lethal it would be able to disable a man for an appreciable length of time. Vision would be affected, and low-level exposure would cause point sources of light to appear as lines.'

Frequent enquiry on the internet has revealed that the US government, in partnership with specialist agencies, are working on a programme of 'non-lethal' weapons systems designed to disable but not destroy enemies. In a recent conversation with a physicist at Sandia National Laboratories, I can confirm that infrasonic weapons are still a viable option, although it comes very low on a list of alternatives due to it's cumbersome nature, and the lack of an effective, and powerful amplification system. This leads us neatly into a slightly more sinister, and perhaps more unreliable subject, which probably warrants an article on its own – HAARP. Conspiracy theorists in their droves are seeing this project (an acronym for High Frequency Active Auroral Research Project) as the target of their vitriol. HAARP was initiated by the US government (again!) for a variety of applications, particularly to enhance global communications. A cursory glance at the HAARP web site will reveal all manner of well-intentioned projects and applications for this 'Ionospheric heater' – an array of bizarre looking antennae situated in the back end of Alaska. However, conspiracy theorists claim that the project (reputedly influenced by Tesla technology) has a more sinister intention, and recent investigations highlight a concern that this array can potentially beam EM (electromagnetic) pulses at aircraft, and melt engines, disrupt communications, and destroy life from the upper atmosphere. Although I remain sceptical, I do acknowledge the fact that mankind (and particularly the US military!) has a tendency to use technology to adverse effects. HAARP appears to feed the post cold war paranoia of a suspicious public.

Conversely, there is sufficient evidence from radio hams that the Russians were experimenting with ELF (extremely low frequency) toys at least two decades before HAARP. Radio hams reported ELF clicks from a Russian source being beamed into the US via the airwaves. The Russians were blamed for weather manipulation, mind control, and other unexplainable atmospheric events. Because of the nature of the repeated clicks, the Russian project was dubbed 'Woodpecker'. Truth, misinformation, or paranoia? Eldon Byrd of the US Naval Surface Weapons Centre who controlled the US Non Lethal Weapons programme in the early 80s, confirms that ELF and electromagnetic devices are feasible – but it appears that yet again, all details are contained within the secure 'black' world of hidden research projects. The US Department of Justice report on ELF weapons disclosed that sustained exposure to ELF radiation can produce nausea or disorientation. One researcher subjected animals to ELF radiation through implants, and feels that similar results can be produced from afar without implants. Russian scientists have already claimed to be able to induce sleep from afar (electrosleep) by similar methods. Doubtless, more information on sonic weapons will come to light as information becomes declassified. It would appear overall, that the impracticalities of certain sonic weapons systems far outweigh more sophisticated counterparts... I wait to be surprised!

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and then there's this one...the Kozyrev mirrors...fascinating!

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Is that on the same theme as the 7 Essene mirrors? x
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Is that on the same theme as the 7 Essene mirrors? x

Nope! :)
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and then there's this one...the Kozyrev mirrors...fascinating!

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and then there's this one...the Kozyrev mirrors...fascinating!

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im having a hard time making it through this video. i have to trust my instincts on this one.

It's the google translate....pain.....but stick with it, you get used to it after a bit and it's well worth the watch....it gets more and more eye popping the further on you can get.
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(Not watched vid as yet).

There's more about military use of mind control here...

www.lambros.name/profreedom/mumcw_jw.html

...which is interesting to ponder. But I get what you mean, Knobs, whereby even without the directed manipulative element, just the very presence of so much EM pollution is sufficient to surely have some impact on everything n its path.

I've wondered if it can explain, even in part, the increased instance of depression that so many people suffer from. I heard on a radio programe the other day that there's an average of 1 in 6 people now diagnosed as suffering from depression. I know that the medical profession's attitude, and that of 'society' now is to automatically tag ailments, and prescribe medication, for things that previously might just have been accepted as a natural fact of life, but I find that 1 in 6 figure to be quite phenomenal.
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Would I be being totally bias here if I said that the people who smoke weed on a regular basis seem to bi-pass all sorts of things that tend to affect 'joe public'?

I'm sorry that's so short but I haven't much time.... and I'm not exactly sure what I'm trying to say either if truth be known :emb:

So on that note, I'm off to smoke another :psketti:
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Yes, absolutely. It's well known that certain frequencies of sound effect both physio and psychological changes within humans. One thing the 'Gaians' I once lived amongst used to do that I totally got was to let out a high pitched note of the word Boo. You let the word build up within you and then release the plosive of the 'B' and continue through to the bell like tone of the 'oo'. When you do it you can literally feel it resonate within you. The Gaians used to say that it shook of "crystals" that built up within you. It certainly makes you feel nice :)

Chanting all the vowel sounds an MMMMM, ZZZZZ and OOOH resonate each of the chakras to help you open them up.

Probably everyone's heard of this one...

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