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Uganda and Nigeria Pass Anti-Homosexuality Laws 15 Jan 2014 18:23 #1

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Not really today's but I haven't seen it elsewhere...
Into the Heart Of Darkness? Uganda and Nigeria Pass Anti-Homosexuality Laws

On the same day that the Indian government asked its Supreme Court to review its decision on India's laws criminalizing homosexuality, the Ugandan Parliament has passed the infamous Anti-Homosexuality Bill and, as if in sync, the Nigerian Senate rubber-stamped the Same-Sex Marriage Prohibition Bill. The Nigerian Bill. as well as outlawing gay marriage and prescribing jail terms for anyone who attends such a marriage, bans LGBT organizations altogether. The Ugandan Bill promises legal sanctions so extreme that life imprisonment will now follow on convictions of repeat "offenders" for "homosexual offences." A last minute attempt to introduce a more lenient 14-year-sentence was rejected by Members of Parliament who instead maintained the draconian proposal. But this is only one aspect of a terrible law.

It isn't just LGBT people who will be targeted; anyone, whether family, friends, teachers or colleagues, who doesn't report homosexual conduct to the police is liable to be fined or sent to prison for up to seven years. Provisions in the new Ugandan law include proposals for criminal sanctions for anyone testing or treating LGBT people for sexually transmitted diseases who does not report them as gay to the authorities within 24 hours. Any one talking about or writing about gay rights will equally fall foul of the law: I could not publish this article and you could not read it. Last year, the Speaker of the Ugandan Parliament, Rebecca Kadaga, promised that the Bill would be passed as a "Christmas gift" for the people of Uganda. It took her a year but Kadaga's decidedly unchristian gift has now been wrapped up in time for the Holidays. Parliament even thanked her in a special motion. The Ugandan and Nigerian Bills now only await their Presidents' signature.

It's too early to tell, but I suspect the recent decision of the Indian Supreme Court to overturn the Delhi High Court's ruling in 2009, which decriminalized homosexuality in India, might have something to do with these Bills passing. The judges declared that it was up to legislatures to review laws, and that's exactly what the Ugandan and Nigerian legislatures have just done. The fact that Uganda's Bill violates Uganda's international human rights treaty obligations doesn't seem to matter much - provisions within it allow for an automatic derogation from the relevant treaty clauses - but this Bill also violates the country's own Constitution . One has to wonder just how much a government which turns on a small, insignificant minority of its own people in this way, and rips up its own constitutional framework in the process, has to hide. So far-reaching and authoritarian are the Bill's provisions, no one in the Ugandan legislature or government who voted for this law could credibly claim that they believed in human rights. And yet in November last year Kadaga was chairing a session at a human rights conference in Westminster with the great and the good of the UK Parliament.

www.huffingtonpost.com/kevin-childs/into...rknes_b_4479343.html

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Uganda and Nigeria Pass Anti-Homosexuality Laws 15 Jan 2014 18:37 #2

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It's very sad, but when you've had that much exploitation and corruption in a place, and have that much poverty, then you are going to end up with revolution or authoritarianism sooner or later. Unfortunately, all revolutions have been hijacked or aggressively quelled.
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To clarify, my reason for posting in todays news was that I've been hearing reports about police rounding people up and using entrapment, amongst other methods, on the wireless today.

It seems to be at a bit of a fever pitch over there since this all became legit earlier this week. Bizarre as it might read though, we weren't that different so long ago and may well return there in due course.

Makes you wonder how they'd react if someone were brave enough to present at a GUM clinic following a rape, eh?
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Uganda and Nigeria Pass Anti-Homosexuality Laws 15 Jan 2014 18:48 #4

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"anyone, whether family, friends, teachers or colleagues, who doesn't report homosexual conduct to the police is liable to be fined or sent to prison for up to seven years."

Wow!

Not that targeting LGBT is fine n dandy but that little bit makes it far more sinister than just old bigots making hate laws. It's so wide open to interpretation too, I can imagine it "so, prove you didn't know they were gay". :mad:
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oioioi wrote:
"anyone, whether family, friends, teachers or colleagues, who doesn't report homosexual conduct to the police is liable to be fined or sent to prison for up to seven years."

Wow!

Not that targeting LGBT is fine n dandy but that little bit makes it far more sinister than just old bigots making hate laws. It's so wide open to interpretation too, I can imagine it "so, prove you didn't know they were gay". :mad:

Added to which its going to have a knock on effect on HIV transmission, inasmuch as, folks will likely be far less inclined to seek medical assistance if they suspect an illness to be in any way related to sexual activity, less they be judged etc. There are still a lot of people who believe this to be a 'gay disease', after all.

It gives me no pleasure, but we all saw this coming when Mandella snuffed it. I just never foresaw it happening so quickly, tbh.
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Uganda and Nigeria Pass Anti-Homosexuality Laws 15 Jan 2014 19:14 #6

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I assume this is in the name of some religion, fucking retards, lest hop if there really is a god it smites evilness like this, who cares who you are attracted to
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Uganda and Nigeria Pass Anti-Homosexuality Laws 15 Jan 2014 19:37 #7

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I caught some bloke talking about this on the radio last night. Paraphrased, he was saying when folk are incapable of doing the right thing the state has to step in to point them in the right direction. Like what was said on here t'other day about people believing they're doing right, this guy totally believes its the right thing to do. What kind of headspace do you have to get in to think enforcing laws like this would be the right thing to do?
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i dont and never will understand why homosexuality induces so much fear in people. If you don't believe homosexuality is ok then don't fuck someone of the same sex - end of problem
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Uganda and Nigeria Pass Anti-Homosexuality Laws 15 Jan 2014 20:02 #9

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Has anyone seen this?

www.godlovesuganda.com/
The feature-length documentary God Loves Uganda is a powerful exploration of the evangelical campaign to change African culture with values imported from America’s Christian Right.
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Uganda and Nigeria Pass Anti-Homosexuality Laws 15 Jan 2014 20:07 #10

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Uganda and Nigeria Pass Anti-Homosexuality Laws 15 Jan 2014 20:43 #11

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Missionary-

A missionary is a member of a religious group sent into an area to do evangelism or ministries of service, such as education, literacy, social justice, health care and economic development.

All this shit is ridiculous and nonsensical.

So there's a God and he didn't want to give his rules out to everybody,just to a few people in the middle east.

A few points.

Did God not think other people needed his rules,they weren't worthy of his time and effort (Hmm racist),he didn't know they existed :chuckle: ,Just lazy,................

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missionary
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Uganda and Nigeria Pass Anti-Homosexuality Laws 16 Jan 2014 17:16 #12

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it wasn't that long ago that homosexuality was against the law in this country.
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Uganda and Nigeria Pass Anti-Homosexuality Laws 16 Jan 2014 21:23 #13

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lonewolf wrote:
it wasn't that long ago that homosexuality was against the law in this country.

I know. That's why I said it above.
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Though Uganda recently passed legislation imposing lifetime imprisonment for homosexuality, the country continues to be among those with the highest number of internet searches for gay pornography, reports the Guardian.

Recently, Google published statistics listing the countries with the greatest number of searches for gay porn on the web and found Uganda ranked third, behind Kenya and Pakistan.
Uganda Among World's Top Gay Porn Consumers

Despite the county’s antigay laws, Uganda is among the countries racking up the greatest number of internet searches for gay pornography.

Roger Ross Williams, director of the award-winning documentary God Loves Uganda, told the Huffington Post he believes the more government tries to repress sex and sexuality, the more it will continue to flourish underground. "When you have a repressive society like that, people are repressed, so it goes underground," he said. "They're obsessed with sex."

But Williams was quick to point out that the high numbers of internet searches for gay pornography in antigay nations such as Uganda are not necessarily reflective of the country's LGBT population, but instead reflect the society's curiosity about sex in general. "Culturally, you don't talk about sex in Uganda,” Williams explained. “What this bill has done, it brought homosexuality in the public conversation. People are curious."

www.advocate.com/politics/2014/01/16/uga...p-gay-porn-consumers

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