entrangermercenary1 wrote: Would those that do want Jihad, want Jihad, if there were no such thing as Jihad? Did they come up with Jihad or were they indoctrinated to even have it as a concept in the first place?I remember a tradition amongst the villages I grew up in for gang fights between lads of different villages. A tradition/rivalry that for some stupid reason was passed down the generations. Alliances formed, it was a microcosm of testosterone fuelled tribal bullshit. Not all propaganda/puppeteering appears in the press or from the mouth of priests.
Yes. Themselves. But it isn't the West. If GMT is to be referred to, I'm in the West. I don't support any of them. Do you? Does anyone here?
For the West read, the same fuckers that are austeritying the fuck out of the West, pushing fracking...

knobmeup wrote:
Are you really that naive that you don’t understand politics , and the armed wing of it War
Of course they will get dissident groups, people that are against a regime that supports HZ, and Iran and help them ffs
The Russians, Brits, Chinks every fuckers the same, all have there own little agenda, quell supprise eh !!!
From the comment column underneath that ,which about sums it up:

Looks like this article has united all theconspiracy theorists and those rerunning the Iraq war. Perhaps you guys havent noticed the thousands o fordinary Syrians pleading for help and western intervention. People on the ground arent worried about outsider connections , they have a war of survival to maintain. If you look at Assad regime connections you find them even murkier and loathsome , grow up people , the syrian opposition will take help from wherever it comes.

There is an expression used "after the first contact the plan is out of the window"

knobmeup wrote:
Jihad is here..FACT.been on the planet for hundreds and hundreds of years..get over it

Yep a few teenagers dishing a few slaps out is the same as the Sunni V Shia war thats occuring in several countries now

Im supporting Assad now. Originally before the fucking Jihads got involved then I would of gone with the people. The western governments give you the capability to lead your lovely life in the west, going to supermarkets, typing wank on your PC and watching the TV. Having a car blah blah blah.
Any way the jihads come a nocking I told them to fuck off, barrels of oil my ass...must be a walt moment again ffs

The simple minded jihadists are all mostly Salafists or Wahabees. This extreme form of Islam was developed by Israel/Saudi Arabia and is being pushed all over Europe to gullible young and stupid muslims. The Saudis are paying to have mosques preaching this crap everywhere. Here in London we see these idiots all the time with their ankle showing pantaloons and their silly, ugly beards with their women covered in black funeral shrouds from head to toe. These fools are paid good money to make their way over to Syria and be slaughtered in their thousands.
Most Syrians want nothing to do with fundamentalist Islam and are happy with their secular society where all sects and religions have lived side by side for thousands of years. Assad is a mild form of Arab strongman compared to all other Arab leaders and because of this attack on Syria the Syrians back him more and more.

entrangermercenary1 wrote: NopeI'm not surprised in the slightest. So you do after all agree that puppet masters are largely behind it, working to their own agenda? Sometimes, you're hard work, merc. Even when you agree with someone you go ridiculing and rolling on the floor Pretty sure that if you are an innocent caught up in this sort of contemptible shit, you'd be begging help from anyone. Such things as the UN (remember them^?) do a good job of making out they are there for folk don't they With the BBC and other's help ofc.
You again, appear to be under the illusion that I am pro Assad.
I'll say it again. I am utterly convinced that Bashar Al Assad is a cunt worthy of locking up. Got it?

Scarp wrote: Israel.;;;sure you have some interesting links for this then?

These wars in the Middle East have nothing to do with oil or gas. Oil and gas is plentiful everywhere. It's about Israel and it's plans for expansion into a nuclear armed super state ruling the area and ultimately ruling over all of us from the mysterious, sacred city of Jerusalem. The have their proxies attack and dismember Arab states that are a threat to them. Libya, Iraq, Lebanon, Sudan. Iran is the big one of course. Sectarianism in Islam is promoted to divide and weaken the Arabs.

Yes there are links but don't be lazy, do your own research. Why should I have to provide links for my opinions all the time? I will from time to time.

entrangermercenary1 wrote:
Glossing over your strawman......It involves the same kind of limitation of choice. It didn't matter if I wanted to be a fighter or not. If I walked into the wrong village, folk would want to issue a beating. Because they had bullshit ideas implanted in their heads by others/elders. Does the word metaphor mean owt to you?
They don't provide any of those things. The people that grow food, build PCs, cars etc do that. Currently, in combination with an inefficient and inequitable supply of illusory capital. Western governments as far as I know, provide literally nothing to the people. Save the removal of fundamental choice.

Scarp wrote:
Really ...
So its the jooos who are going to rule the world now and not goldmember ...and the last 30 years Israel has been a nuclear armed super state...so no need to be expanding is there

Well as an aside, There is a well documented plan for expansion of the state of Israel

knobmeup wrote:
Strawman..I love that
is Jihad here or not and is it probably over a thousand years old or not ? can you change perception of it...not a fucking chance...another FACT
The people that build cars, PCs blah blah blah, and how is this achieved ie what power sources are utilised for this Where does that come from ?

The fundamental choice is you can catch a plane, and fuck off to any country you choose. Shocking fundamental choice that

knobmeup wrote:
A few settlements here and there, next the world eh !!!

entrangermercenary1 wrote: You don't know what the strawman you made was do you? Power? Well it aint conjured up and posted by David fucking Camoron is it, merc you twonk
So the big tuff mercenary recommends you run away if the going gets tuff Again

entrangermercenary1 wrote: No, I wasn't referring to expansion into the West Bank. Have a google on me.

I'm beginning to see where Etranger is coming from. Already I'm being accused of anti-semitism. They accuse Icke of that all the time. It's what they say about anybody who accuses Israel of anything. I will ignore him. I know there others here who are better informed and know what I'm talking about.

Oh don't ignore merc. He's fun. Aincha, merc

knobmeup wrote:
I don't know about fun, but he's just given me a headache.

@the-dude-with-the-pink-pants I can't agree that its not about oil or gas, it very much is. You're right though it is also about Israel's push for dominance in the east, which is really the West's push in the east. It is all part of the globalist agenda.

Do you know about the petrodollar is and how it strengthens the US economy? The kick-offs that come about when oil is sold in any other currency?

I think its important as well to not look at Israel as its own independent nation. Britain set it up after WWII by taking land off the Muslims in a deliberate attempt to destabilize the area and get a foot in the door. It is about oil, but also power and Israel = Us.