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Employed? Don't get sick. 09 Feb 2014 16:12 #1

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That's right. Employed this time.

So after causing thousands of deaths, some from suicide, by unleashing ATOS on the chronically and terminally ill, Ian Duncan Smith is coming for all those scroungers off the state hard working tax payers.
In a bid to curb a 'sick note epidemic', the DWP is set to launch a scheme to help get people back to work.

Under the plans, those off sick for more than four weeks will be referred for health assessments carried out by occupational specialists to draw up a plan and timetable to get them back to work.

www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/one-millio...s-take-month-3127598

See that "occupational specialists"?

That's ATOS

First they came for the chronically sick...
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Employed? Don't get sick. 09 Feb 2014 16:31 #2

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Fuckers! :mad:
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Employed? Don't get sick. 09 Feb 2014 16:42 #3

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Indeed.

And they are lying: there is no absentee "epidemic"

The CBI itself said in their official report of 2013
Absence from work in the UK has dropped to a new record low, according to the latest CBI/Pfizer Absence and Workplace Health Survey, released today.

www.cbi.org.uk/media-centre/press-releas...r-cbi-pfizer-survey/
In fact this is a widely known and well accepted trend over the last twenty years
One person has actually tweeted the article comments section with this
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The angle is, of course, to separate the employed and stigmatise one part of them as "skivers" just as they did to the chronically ill and the unemployed.
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Employed? Don't get sick. 09 Feb 2014 18:52 #4

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Doesn't sound to promising does it.

So will this MP be called up soon to visit ATOS,he's got a bad heart.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hampshire-26086980
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Employed? Don't get sick. 09 Feb 2014 18:54 #5

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Judging by the impact that ATOS has had and the fact that they overturn doctors' decisions about who is fit for work, I would say that this is disastrous, mate.
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Employed? Don't get sick. 09 Feb 2014 19:02 #6

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Tory boy says.

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It's political correctness gone mad not wanting to be worked to death for the profit of somebody else.
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Employed? Don't get sick. 09 Feb 2014 19:06 #7

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What awaits every employed person in the UK
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Employed? Don't get sick. 09 Feb 2014 23:32 #8

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Thanks to Chuck Random for this
Atos, G4S paid no corporation tax last year despite carrying out £2billion of taxpayer-funded work
Two of the country’s biggest private contractors paid no corporation tax in Britain last year, despite carrying out billions of pounds of taxpayer funded work for the Government, an official audit finds

Two of the country’s biggest private contractors paid no corporation tax in Britain last year, despite carrying out billions of pounds of taxpayer funded work for the Government, an official audit has found.

A report by the National Audit Office, published today, disclosed for the first time how much Government work is now outsourced to the private sector.

It found that the four biggest suppliers - Atos, Capita, G4S and Serco - carried out £6.6billion-worth of work for the public sector and central Government last year.

Yet two of them – Atos and G4S which carried out £2billion-worth for work for the Government and public sector – paid no corporation tax at all in the UK in 2012. Capita paid between £50million and £56million, while Serco paid £25million in tax.

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/104422...yer-funded-work.html

We fund the very people that are there to deny our right to the National Insurance that way pay
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Employed? Don't get sick. 09 Feb 2014 23:49 #9

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Three of those four companies are heavily involved in private prisons as well (not so much Capita AFAIK). This is something that is often overlooked; much of the benefits system is already privatised. There are many less well known contractors as well. The government doesn't run any of it apart from administrating the payments, but I'm sure at some point they'll try to privatise that.
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Employed? Don't get sick. 10 Feb 2014 01:36 #10

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Guess what's next?
The government is considering saving money by privatising the delivery of the state pension, according to Whitehall documents seen by the Guardian.

In an effort to make up billions more in austerity savings, the Department for Work and Pensions (DWP) has initiated a review of how it issues 4.5m pension statements each year and the administration of £100bn in public money to millions of pensioners in the UK and around the world.
www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/feb/09...vatisation-dwp-plans

What the fuck is this? A mad dash to grab anything left before the next election like Supermarket Sweep? :mad:
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Employed? Don't get sick. 10 Feb 2014 03:02 #11

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Meanwhile....
Plans to cut the budget for disabled children’s activities and short breaks by a third will be discussed at next week’s executive meeting.

Bracknell Forest Council executive members are expected to approve a timetable which will see the £375,000 Aiming High budget reduced by £120,000 by 2015/16.

www.getreading.co.uk/news/plans-cut-budg...d-activities-6681157

Disabled kids now :sadno:
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Employed? Don't get sick. 10 Feb 2014 06:15 #12

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Good. Fucking Good! :mad: (Not re: the kids obviously).

If they even the playing fields a bit and go after people IN WORK, then maybe those on benefits won't be continually lambasted and looked down on to such a degree. Maybe the scroungers tint will finally get dropped. It doesn't matter who you are, parasite or slave, they want you dead all the same.
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Employed? Don't get sick. 10 Feb 2014 13:36 #13

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New government homes chief wanted cuts in social housing
The head of a new government review into housing has previously advocated a £5bn cut in state funding for the sector, it emerged last night.
Mrs Elphicke, whose husband, Charlie, is a Conservative MP, authored a report for Policy Exchange in 2010, which proposed that housing associations could generate £30bn a year by raising money directly from pension funds and save £5bn in government grants.

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/n...housing-9101709.html

Trolley picking up speed now!
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Employed? Don't get sick. 10 Feb 2014 13:38 #14

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What the fuck is this? A mad dash to grab anything left before the next election like Supermarket Sweep? :mad:
Well, what is happening at the moment is opportunism. The current economic situation gives the political elite the opportunity to privatise anything and everything because if they're ever subject to criticism then they can come out with their automatic reponse of "we've got to get the deficit down". And on one level they are actually correct because you cannot go on racking up a vast debt indefinitely, actually Britain is completely broke and the only thing keeping the government functioning is the ability to borrow 'money' at preferential rates. What happened in the United States where the government shut down completely, that could easily happen in Britain, albeit there is no formal debt ceiling arrangement. However, if UK bonds and credit rating was downloaded to junk then the government would have the following choices: (a) disband, (b) default, (c) go to the IMF (almost certainly they will take option (c)).

So unless people start to understand some of the deeper economic issues and that the existing system will inevitable create debt and that this will inevitably lead to economic problems then they’re going to be able to justify going on doing this indefinitely. It won’t change when the government changes, it can’t change because it’s a mathematical impossibility for it to change. That’s why they’re constantly crapping on about ‘growth’ all the time because ‘growth’ enables them to tread water a little longer. It doesn’t make any difference to the long-term position.

But everything that’s happening now, I know for a fact that it was all planned a long time ago. You can go back and read the documents which were written quite some time ago, and a long time before this government got into power. It was always known that this time was coming and that these policies were going to be followed, and the justification for it has been obvious for quite some time. I don’t see any way that it’s going to change because I don’t see any way the financial position / economic system of the UK is going to change.
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Employed? Don't get sick. 10 Feb 2014 18:28 #15

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If the country's broke then forced nationalisation of all the companies that were previously nationalised is the obvious answer especialy for patriotic people,only crooks and traitors privatise the country's assets. ;)
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Employed? Don't get sick. 11 Feb 2014 00:27 #16

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wake_up_bomb wrote:
Well, what is happening at the moment is opportunism. .

Precisely. And yes, it has been leading up to this for years.

Speaking of both opportunism and getting sick

Fury as Tory party donors are handed NHS contracts worth £1.5BILLION under health reforms

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Private health care firms with Tory links have been awarded NHS contracts worth nearly £1.5billion.
Circle Health landed £1.36billion worth of health service work after several ­of its investors gifted about £1.5million to the Conservatives.

And Care UK has contracts worth another £102.6million. Its chairman John Nash was made a peer after boosting Tory coffers by £247,250.

Labour’s Shadow Health Secretary Andy Burnham, who ­uncovered the figures, fumed: “Nobody gave David Cameron ­permission to sell the NHS to his friends.

“It’s shocking the same Tory donors who ­bankrolled the development of their NHS reorganisation policy are now ­profiting from the sell-off of NHS services.”

Labour’s research shows Circle Health’s parent company, Circle Holdings PLC, is owned by a series of hedge funds.

Lansdowne Partners, with a 29.2% stake, was founded by Sir Paul Ruddock, who donated £692,592 to the Tories.

David Craigen, who gave the party £59,000, is also involved in Lansdowne.

Invesco Perpetual owns 28.7% of Circle Holdings. It was set up by Sir Martyn Arbib, who donated £466,330.

Robin Crispin Odey is founder of Odey Asset Management, which owns 14.8%. Mr Odey donated £220,000.

And Michael Platt, founder of BlueCrest Capital, with its 5% stake in Circle Holdings, has gifted the party £125,000.

Among Circle’s contracts is a £1billion deal to run Hinchingbrooke Hospital, Cambs.

Since the Tories’ hated health reforms became law, its profits have gone up from £64.6million in 2010-11 to £170.4million in 2011-12.

But a spokesman said: “Circle has never made any donations to a political party. The vast majority of Circle’s NHS contracts actually started under the last Labour government.”

And a Tory spokesman added: “The decision to contract out ­Hinchingbrooke was taken by Andy Burnham.”

Care UK has been handed a string of NHS deals including prison health care contracts worth £62million.

Its healthcare revenue soared by 63.2% from £189.7million a year in 2012 to £309.5million in 2013.

Chairman Lord Nash and his wife gave £247,250 to the Tories, including £21,000 to former Shadow Health Secretary Andrew Lansley as he drew up the Tory health reforms.
www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/fury-tory-...onors-handed-3123469
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Employed? Don't get sick. 11 Feb 2014 00:33 #17

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Surely this only applies to employess having to claim SSP
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Employed? Don't get sick. 11 Feb 2014 00:41 #18

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In the United Kingdom Statutory Sick Pay (SSP) is paid by their employer to all employees who normally pay National Insurance contributions (NIC), often referred to as earning above the Lower Earnings Limit (LEL) if they are sick for a period longer than 4 consecutive days but less than 28 weeks.
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Employed? Don't get sick. 11 Feb 2014 00:53 #19

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But this is applicable only to employees who employers don't have there own sick pay policies in place?

I see the problem, are those off sick after 4 wek going to be referred to ATOS?
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Employed? Don't get sick. 11 Feb 2014 01:29 #20

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With all due respect, in 2015 you'll have all voted YES (don't blame you tbh) and it will be the English and Welsh left with this: leats holidays, lowest sick leave, ATOS breathing down the necks of the sick, pensioners stuck inside cold houses waiting for their privately delivered paltry dwindling pensions and prisons housing the biggest industrial workforce in the country.
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