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TOPIC: Entire NHS hospital patient database for England uploaded to Google servers

Entire NHS hospital patient database for England uploaded to Google servers 04 Mar 2014 01:03 #1

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www.theguardian.com/society/2014/mar/03/...-data-google-servers
A prominent Tory MP on the powerful health select committee has questioned how the entire NHS hospital patient database for England was handed over to management consultants who uploaded it to Google servers based outside the UK.

Sarah Wollaston, who practised as a family doctor and is now a Conservative backbencher, tweeted: "So HES [hospital episode statistics] data uploaded to 'google's immense army of servers', who consented to that?"

The patient information had been obtained by PA Consulting, which claimed to have secured the "entire start-to-finish HES dataset across all three areas of collection – inpatient, outpatient and A&E".

The data set was so large it took up 27 DVDs and took a couple of weeks to upload. The management consultants said: "Within two weeks of starting to use the Google tools we were able to produce interactive maps directly from HES queries in seconds."

The revelations alarmed campaigners and privacy experts, who queried how Google maps could have been used unless some location data had been provided in the patient information files.

The issue of which organisations have acquired medical records has been at the centre of political debate in the past few weeks, following reports that actuaries, pharmaceutical firms, government departments and private health providers had either attempted or obtained patient data.

Patient groups have questioned what safeguards are in place to protect privacy and have called for full disclosure of which organisations have acquired medical records since 2010.

Stephen Dorrell, Tory chairman of the health select committee, has already said he will write to the health secretary, Jeremy Hunt, to request that such information is released.

Last month, NHS England announced it would delay by six months the rollout of its flagship care.data scheme linking GP records and hospital data, amid criticism of how it has run the public information campaign about the project.

The extracted information will contain a person's NHS number, date of birth, postcode, ethnicity and gender. Once live, organisations such as university research departments – but also insurers and drug companies – will be able to apply to the new Health and Social Care Information Centre (HSCIC) to gain access to the care.data database.

However, campaigners said it would be a folly to continue with the project, which envisages firms paying to extract patient information that would be scrubbed of some personal identifiers but not enough to make the information completely anonymous – a process known as "pseudonymisation".

Phil Booth of medConfidential, which campaigns on medical privacy, said every day another instance of "whole population level data being sold emerges which had been previously denied".

He added: "There is no way for the public to tell that this data has left the HSCIC. The government and NHS England must now come completely clean. Anything less than full disclosure would be a complete betrayal of trust."

Both PA Consulting and HSCIC have yet to respond.
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Entire NHS hospital patient database for England uploaded to Google servers 04 Mar 2014 01:41 #2

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Yet another data episode, and is a glaring reason for the internet and why governments have been so keen to get everyone online, as they want every piece of data they can gather, and nothing is more private than medical records as they follow someone their whole life....

Data-mining is the control systems wet dream & is also big business to give it to them...look at facebook and all the controlled opposition forums et al.....they can profile and look for weaknesses for control & social engineering...it was only a matter of time before the intrusion reached the medical records.
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Entire NHS hospital patient database for England uploaded to Google servers 04 Mar 2014 02:08 #3

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The general response to this has, so far, been relatively muted. I'm not sure why but I suspect there is a little cognitive dissonance going on. Or it could be the general prevailing ignorance of the masses or preoccupation with other matters.....come dancing or the Ukraine. Who can tell with the British public these days.
Eventually this will become a major issue and may well be a game changer when it comes how the voting public regard their elected representatives in parliament.
It comes down to a fundamental breach of trust - and those that are paying attention will realize this is an unforgivable attack on the spirit of the social contract between the state and the people.
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Entire NHS hospital patient database for England uploaded to Google servers 04 Mar 2014 02:09 #4

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wake_up_bomb wrote:
www.theguardian.com/society/2014/mar/03/...-data-google-servers
A prominent Tory MP on the powerful health select committee has questioned how the entire NHS hospital patient database for England was handed over to management consultants who uploaded it to Google servers based outside the UK.

Sarah Wollaston, who practised as a family doctor and is now a Conservative backbencher, tweeted: "So HES [hospital episode statistics] data uploaded to 'google's immense army of servers', who consented to that?"

The patient information had been obtained by PA Consulting, which claimed to have secured the "entire start-to-finish HES dataset across all three areas of collection – inpatient, outpatient and A&E".

The data set was so large it took up 27 DVDs and took a couple of weeks to upload. The management consultants said: "Within two weeks of starting to use the Google tools we were able to produce interactive maps directly from HES queries in seconds."

The revelations alarmed campaigners and privacy experts, who queried how Google maps could have been used unless some location data had been provided in the patient information files.

The issue of which organisations have acquired medical records has been at the centre of political debate in the past few weeks, following reports that actuaries, pharmaceutical firms, government departments and private health providers had either attempted or obtained patient data.

Patient groups have questioned what safeguards are in place to protect privacy and have called for full disclosure of which organisations have acquired medical records since 2010.

Stephen Dorrell, Tory chairman of the health select committee, has already said he will write to the health secretary, Jeremy Hunt, to request that such information is released.

Last month, NHS England announced it would delay by six months the rollout of its flagship care.data scheme linking GP records and hospital data, amid criticism of how it has run the public information campaign about the project.

The extracted information will contain a person's NHS number, date of birth, postcode, ethnicity and gender. Once live, organisations such as university research departments – but also insurers and drug companies – will be able to apply to the new Health and Social Care Information Centre (HSCIC) to gain access to the care.data database.

However, campaigners said it would be a folly to continue with the project, which envisages firms paying to extract patient information that would be scrubbed of some personal identifiers but not enough to make the information completely anonymous – a process known as "pseudonymisation".

Phil Booth of medConfidential, which campaigns on medical privacy, said every day another instance of "whole population level data being sold emerges which had been previously denied".

He added: "There is no way for the public to tell that this data has left the HSCIC. The government and NHS England must now come completely clean. Anything less than full disclosure would be a complete betrayal of trust."

Both PA Consulting and HSCIC have yet to respond.

No personally identifying information eh? Postcode? NHS number? I hate this friken government.
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Entire NHS hospital patient database for England uploaded to Google servers 04 Mar 2014 02:21 #5

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Which morons decision was it to upload it all onto google stats ffs?

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Entire NHS hospital patient database for England uploaded to Google servers 04 Mar 2014 02:27 #6

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If they have done this, then they aught to allow everyone to access thier own hospital records for nothing. It costs to obtain them at the moment. I at least would find that usefull - but you can bet your bottom dollar they will not allow that.
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Entire NHS hospital patient database for England uploaded to Google servers 04 Mar 2014 03:37 #7

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I sort of regret using that temazepam, methadone and viagra recreationally now.

That was just a joke BTW just in case anyone's concerned about my health.
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Entire NHS hospital patient database for England uploaded to Google servers 04 Mar 2014 08:39 #8

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wake_up_bomb wrote:
I sort of regret using that temazepam, methadone and viagra recreationally now.

That was just a joke BTW just in case anyone's concerned about my health.

Chuck in some cider and twiglets and it has all the makings of a SZ party night.

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Entire NHS hospital patient database for England uploaded to Google servers 04 Mar 2014 17:00 #9

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I mentioned this in another thread but then deleted it.

There is a black market for medical information which is sold by solicitors who deal in accident claims.

When you use one of these solicitors they get accesses to all of your medical records,they also buy info from other companies.

The management of the solicitors I know who are part of this chain have money hidden in vast amounts which cannot go through the legit system.
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