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Hugo Chavez has died... 05 Mar 2013 22:10 #1

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“Fascists are not human. A snake is more human.” - Hugo Chávez
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Hugo Chavez has died... 05 Mar 2013 22:13 #2

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Shitstorm ahoy.
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Hugo Chavez has died... 05 Mar 2013 23:14 #3

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A sad day for sure, seemed like a nice guy.
“Fascists are not human. A snake is more human.” - Hugo Chávez
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Hugo Chavez has died... 05 Mar 2013 23:15 #4

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This :roll: +1
Lets see how quick the Rothschilds move in now.


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Hugo Chavez has died... 06 Mar 2013 00:05 #5

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Have a look at the daily mail comments from the Americans....Sick. :roll:
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Hugo Chavez has died... 06 Mar 2013 02:32 #6

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pheony wrote:
Have a look at the daily mail comments from the Americans....Sick. :roll:
Those are damn ugly comments pheony.

Many of those spewing that stuff will no doubt also describe themselves as Christians. :facepalm:
Quite amazing what a bit of propaganda will do to some folks.
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Hugo Chavez has died... 06 Mar 2013 02:34 #7

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pheony wrote:
Have a look at the daily mail comments from the Americans....Sick. :roll:
I had a quick read. If I believed in God, I would pray for them. They need help.
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Hugo Chavez has died... 06 Mar 2013 02:36 #8

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pheony wrote:
Have a look at the daily mail comments from the Americans

Well the MSM tries to indoctrinate people so that they think how those in power want them to, and usually in absolutes (black and white) and more often than not, it works.

Venezuela is also (along with columbia) a cocaine growing country, so add that to the oil mentioned before, and other things, it is just more things that the establishment want to get control of... therefore chavez is an 'asshole'
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Hugo Chavez has died... 06 Mar 2013 13:40 #9

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Chavez was supposed to have been taken out after the staged 9/11 event as one Rockefeller confided to Aaron Russo, who also suspiciously died of an aggressive cancer by the way, after he blew the whistle on all this. Here’s Russo’s talk. Listen all the way through, it’s one of the greatest exposes of the cold, calculated elite mindset you’ll see from a first hand encounter and specifically mentions their designs for Venezuela:


www.zengardner.com/post-chavez-latin-ame...re-the-imperialists/
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Hugo Chavez has died... 06 Mar 2013 14:51 #10

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When an illness becomes serious, when medical attention becomes a vehicle for myopic, politically motivated decisions and when a patient becomes drunk with power, it can only end this way. The strongman has died, and in so doing, he has initiated a substantial shift in the Venezuelan political landscape.

What used to be the regime’s greatest strength has suddenly turned into its defining weakness: it was all Chávez, and, without him, the only solution is to fabricate an absolute commitment to his memory and his plans for succession. The government’s true fragility can now be seen, a government which tried to demonstrate its “popular, socialist” character via a grotesque personality cult, a practice that has now been reduced to the empty invocation of spirits. The deceased himself is to blame for this outcome as the secrecy around his illness was propelled by the same motivations as the extreme centralisation of power around him, while the lack of ideological coherence amongst his followers has left them scrapping for crumbs. The high-level “rojo-rojito” [chavista red] bureaucrats and the upper echelons of the military are best placed to benefit, as they negotiate impunity for their various misdemeanours and corruptions.

For the right-wing and social democratic opposition, the new situation finds them unable to overcome their losses of the presidential elections of October 7 and the regionals of December 16, offering a “yuppy populism” which promises voters that they will maintain and fine-tune the clientelist tools of governmental power which were so useful to Chavez. This accommodation assumes the belief that a fortuitous metastasis has brought them within reach of the power that their greed, mistakes, laziness and incompetence had kept them away from, power they will wield with similar stupidity and greed as the Chavista bolibourgeoisie.
The backdrop to this load of petty opportunism – from both the Gran Polo Patriótico [the Chavista coalition] and the Mesa de Unidad Democrática [the opposition coalition] – is Venezuela, a country that faces its own problems: out of control inflation, rising unemployment and precarious jobs, the devaluation of the currency, shocking personal insecurity, crises in electricity and water provision, education and health systems in decline, a housing shortage, obsolete – or incomplete – public works, a demagogic approach which pays attention to only the most extreme scarcities experienced by the most desperate people... a whole host of other problems which are equally disastrous.

These issues are not the central concern of the two gangs in competition for Miraflores [the President palace/seat] and the oil booty. Our collective response must be to not relent to their blackmail: support at the ballot box in exchange for ‘solutions’ that either never materialise or are ludicrously inadequate. Now is the time to overpower the rotten powers that be and build – from below – a real democracy of equality, social justice and freedom. We must unleash the generalised anger caused by our suffering, and convert it into autonomous social struggles, self-managed and extensive. We must spell out for the politicians in power that we don’t need them, neither as intermediaries nor as gracious givers of what we ourselves can construct – united and from the base – without any need for “clean hands” or “red berets”.

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Hugo Chavez has died... 06 Mar 2013 15:44 #11

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Hugo Chavez has died... 06 Mar 2013 19:55 #12

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You'll hear an influential British Marxist on Newsnight tonight talking about Hugo Chavez's life and memory, somebody who knew Chavez and knew his politics.


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“What is the problem? I am also a Trotskyist!”
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Hugo Chavez has died... 06 Mar 2013 19:59 #13

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Hugo Chavez has died... 06 Mar 2013 22:43 #14

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I am elsewhere these days on the web for reasons of timing but just to drop you a line.

The religious right has just shamed itself enourmously with its vultre spite spitting on graves shit and that will have consequences

(no American POPE)

ha ha

they just can't resist hurting people these fuckers

And then they get fucked over

Chavez RIP


and your death will hurt the Imperialistic fuckers more than they will know for a while

but when they do

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Hugo Chavez has died... 07 Mar 2013 14:17 #15

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"What CIA controlled media never told about the so called 'dictator' (anyone who stands in our way) they were tasked to murder for the international banksters and oil barons." - Cash Snowden

> Setting the Record Straight on Venezuela and Hugo Chávez by Eva Golinger - Global Research, January 09, 2011
Under the Chavez administration, poverty has been reduced in half, universal, quality free healthcare and education have been guaranteed for all Venezuelans, new industries have been created and more and more political power has been placed in the hands of “ordinary” people who were previously excluded by the elite that ruled the country throughout the twentieth century.
www.globalresearch.ca/setting-the-record...nd-hugo-chavez/22704

> Why Washington Hates Hugo Chávez by Mike Whitney - Global Research, January 02, 2011
In late November, Venezuela was hammered by torrential rains and flooding that left 35 people dead and roughly 130,000 homeless. If George Bush had been president, instead of Hugo Chavez, the displaced people would have been shunted off at gunpoint to makeshift prison camps–like the Superdome–as they were following Hurricane Katrina. But that’s not the way Chavez works. The Venezuelan president quickly passed “enabling” laws which gave him special powers to provide emergency aid and housing to flood victims. Chavez then cleared out the presidential palace and turned it into living quarters for 60 people, which is the equivalent of turning the White House into a homeless shelter. The disaster victims are now being fed and taken care of by the state until they can get back on their feet and return to work.
The details of Chavez’s efforts have been largely omitted in the US media where he is regularly demonized as a “leftist strongman” or a dictator. The media refuses to acknowledge that Chavez has narrowed the income gap, eliminated illiteracy, provided health care for all Venezuelans, reduced inequality, and raised living standards across he board. While Bush and Obama were expanding their foreign wars and pushing through tax cuts for the rich, Chavez was busy improving the lives of the poor and needy while fending off the latest wave of US aggression.
Washington despises Chavez because he is unwilling to hand over Venezuela’s vast resources to corporate elites and bankers. That’s why the Bush administration tried to depose Chavez in a failed coup attempt in 2002, and that’s why the smooth-talking Obama continues to launch covert attacks on Chavez today. Washington wants regime change so it can install a puppet who will hand over Venezuela’s reserves to big oil while making life hell for working people.
www.globalresearch.ca/why-washington-hates-hugo-chavez/22602

> Why the Rich Hate Hugo Chávez by Stuart Munckton - Green Left, January 19, 2007
What has caused such pessimistic pronouncements on the state of Venezuela's democracy? After all they come just after pro-Chavez forces won their 11th-straight electoral victory in just eight years; Chavez pledged to place planned changes to the constitution to a referendum, as he has done in the past; and plans were announced to expand institutions of direct democracy, such as the communal councils that give the poor control over their communities.
The answer is that the corporate-owned media are terrified of the revolutionary process being led by the Chavez government that is organising Venezuela's working people to overcome the exploitation of Venezuela's economy by predominantly US corporations. The spate of hysterical allegations against Chavez have coincided with his announcement, at the swearing in of his new cabinet on January 8, of plans to nationalise companies that had been privatised by previous governments as a step on the road to the construction of a "socialist republic" — as Chavez promised in his election campaign.
www.greenleft.org.au/node/36830

> An Interview with Hugo Chávez by Greg Palast, July 2006
You’d think George Bush would get down on his knees and kiss Hugo Chávez’s behind. Not only has Chávez delivered cheap oil to the Bronx and other poor communities in the United States. And not only did he offer to bring aid to the victims of Katrina. In my interview with the president of Venezuela on March 28, he made Bush the following astonishing offer: Chávez would drop the price of oil to $50 a barrel, “not too high, a fair price,” he said—a third less than the $75 a barrel for oil recently posted on the spot market. That would bring down the price at the pump by about a buck, from $3 to $2 a gallon.
But our President has basically told Chávez to take his cheaper oil and stick it up his pipeline. Before I explain why Bush has done so, let me explain why Chávez has the power to pull it off—and the method in the seeming madness of his “take-my-oil-please!” deal.
Venezuela, Chávez told me, has more oil than Saudi Arabia. A nutty boast? Not by a long shot. In fact, his surprising claim comes from a most surprising source: the U.S. Department of Energy. In an internal report, the DOE estimates that Venezuela has five times the Saudis’ reserves.
www.progressive.org/mag_intv0706?fb_acti...ction_ref_map=%5B%5D

> The Legacy of Hugo Chávez: 21st Democracy, Break from Empire and Dignity for Latin America
Posted on March 6, 2013 by Lala Rukh
Author: Kevin Zeese and Margaret Flowers
The death of Hugo Chávez is a great loss to the people of Venezuela who have been lifted out of poverty and have created a deep participatory democracy. Chavez was a leader who, in unity with the people, was able to free Venezuela from the grips of US Empire, bring dignity to the poor and working class, and was central to a Latin American revolt against US domination.
Chávez grew up a campesino, a peasant, raised in poverty. His parents were teachers, his grandmother an Indian whom he credits with teaching him solidarity with the people. During his military service, he learned about Simon Bolivar, who freed Latin America from Spanish Empire.
zen-haven.com/the-legacy-of-hugo-chavez-...y-for-latin-america/

> Vaya con Dios, Hugo Chàvez, mi Amigo by Greg Palast, March 5, 2013
As a purgative for the crappola fed to Americans about Chavez, my foundation, The Palast Investigative Fund, is offering the film, The Assassination of Hugo Chavez, as a FREE download. Based on my several meetings with Chavez, his kidnappers and his would-be assassins.
us4.campaign-archive2.com/?u=33e4ec877ee...055eac7&e=ae69a5e431

“You are a fraud, Obama,” Chávez said in 2011. “Go and ask many people in Africa, who might have believed in you because of the color of your skin, because your father was from Africa. You are an Afro-descendant, but you are the shame of all those people.”

“You are a coward, a killer, a [perpetrator of] genocide, an alcoholic, a drunk, a liar, an immoral person, Mr Danger. You are the worst, Mr. Danger. The worst of this planet… A psychologically sick man, I know it.” - Chávez, about U.S. President George W. Bush, in 2006.

“Don’t be shameless, Mr Blair. Don’t be immoral, Mr. Blair. You are one of those who have no morals. You are not one who has the right to criticize anyone about the rules of the international community. You are an imperialist pawn who attempts to curry favor with Danger Bush-Hitler, the number one mass murderer and assassin there is on the planet. Go straight to hell, Mr. Blair.” - Chávez, in 2006, to former British Prime Minister Tony Blair.

On the discovery of the New World by Europeans
“Christopher Columbus was the spearhead of the biggest invasion and genocide ever seen in the history of humanity." - Hugo Chávez (2003)

“The Holocaust, that is what is happening right now in Gaza…The president of Israel at this moment should be taken to the International Criminal Court together with the president of the United States.” - Hugo Chávez (2009)

"Israel criticizes Hitler a lot, so do we, but they’ve done something very similar, even worse, than what the Nazis did.” - Hugo Chávez (visiting Iran in 2006)

“Fascists are not human. A snake is more human.” - Hugo Chávez
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Hugo Chavez has died... 07 Mar 2013 16:10 #16

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Nice.
I particularly like Greg Palasts comments and Hugo's right at the end there ;)

“Fascists are not human. A snake is more human.” - Hugo Chávez"

In fact...new sig...
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Hugo Chavez has died... 08 Mar 2013 09:45 #17

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www.gregpalast.com/

Vaya con Dios, Hugo Chàvez, mi Amigo
By Greg Palast for Vice Magazine

For BBC Television, Palast met several times with Hugo Chàvez, who passed away today.

As a purgative for the crappola fed to Americans about Chavez, my foundation, The Palast Investigative Fund, is offering the film, The Assassination of Hugo Chavez, as a FREE download. Based on my several meetings with Chavez, his kidnappers and his would-be assassins, filmed for BBC Television. DVDs also available.

Media may contact Palast at interviews (at) gregpalast.com.

Venezuelan President Chavez once asked me why the US elite wanted to kill him. My dear Hugo: It's the oil. And it's the Koch Brothers – and it's the ketchup.

Looks good :)
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Hugo Chavez has died... 08 Mar 2013 14:22 #18

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The free site download link that asks for email addy is OK by the way.
I've not had any spam from it as yet. Not that its a prob if you use hotmail or summat.

The vid seems quite good, shame its 4:3 low res but its all history now.
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Hugo Chavez has died... 08 Mar 2013 14:26 #19

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Hugo Chavez has died... 08 Mar 2013 22:03 #20

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My journey into wingnut land these last weeks has born a few fruits and a fe revelations.

I am looking forward to sharing the data but I am abit weary so hold on.

BIG iinsights into the Religious Right.


Rants ayahoy I am afraid


I am praying for Tagle but it is a long shot.

But, ironicallly, there is more chance for him to be the next Pope than there ever would havebeen had the whole process been open to the mockery of we call Democracy.

Tagle is the one to watch. Arrives on a bicycle

Posting it again but if you have not his speech about the false gods of greed and lust and power

To the Churche's reluctance to examine itself

To the fat hat a Bishop is no neare God than you or I



And what a gift it would be to the people of the Pacific Coast to have a representative

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