oioioi wrote:
angelchemuel wrote:
....we'd have anarchy if somebody didn't tell us what to do.

We'd have no anarchists if people stopped telling us what to do

If you and Andy would stop cherry picking what I said and read the whole of my last comment, then you'd see your comment is ridiculous. By the nature of humans we will always have two disenting opinions and view points, as in ours, on any given situation or issue and then you get arguments which snowball to battles and then wars = anarchy.
Where did I live...in the way out outbacks of Anglesey.......and yes even out there we are affected by politics.

By the 80's I was in Cheltenham.
I am very sorry if you and Andy seem to think I am defending Thatcher in any way. Show me where I have said anything which resembles "She was great". She was a politician and Prime minister at the end of the day....nothing more nothing less, I just can't believe people are getting so worked up about a 'has been'. Nothing has changed...we have had and will continue to have ego driven people who at the end of the day determine what happens in our sorry lives. Why? Because we (well not me 'cos I don't vote) continue to put their little'X' in a box.
But now I am going to piss you off right royally. There is one thing I totally and utterly agree with Thatcher about and did at the time...and that's Europe....to quote
“The European single currency is bound to fail, economically, politically and indeed socially, though the timing, occasion and full consequences are all necessarily still unclear.” — Margaret Thatcher,
and this
(On The European Union) “What we should grasp, however, from the lessons of European history is that, first, there is nothing necessarily benevolent about programmes of European integration; second, the desire to achieve grand utopian plans often poses a grave threat to freedom; and third, European unity has been tried before, and the outcome was far from happy.” — Margaret Thatcher,
and this
“(A unified) ‘Europe’ is the result of plans. It is, in fact, a classic utopian project, a monument to the vanity of intellectuals, a programme whose inevitable destiny is failure: only the scale of the final damage done is in doubt.” — Margaret Thatcher,
Did anybody listen to her then? No. Europe would be a far different place now if she had still had the 'authority' to say "NO, NO, NO"

Jane