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#Woolwich 16 Jul 2013 01:35 #1

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www.chrisspivey.co.uk/?p=13030

A long but interesting read on the Woolwich murder.
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#Woolwich 16 Jul 2013 14:21 #2

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The whole thing remains hilarious as ever.
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#Woolwich 16 Jul 2013 15:23 #3

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Space Bandit wrote:
www.chrisspivey.co.uk/?p=13030

A long but interesting read on the Woolwich murder.

You weren't kidding! I've been popping in and out of there throughout the day, I'm not even half way!
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#Woolwich 16 Jul 2013 15:32 #4

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He's got a couple of things wrong.
For starters one of the guys definitely did say allah u akbar etc as evidenced in a different video.

However a lot of the main points are strong, for example how the hell the car got there and how the hell he recognised him and why they would be carrying around a pile of knives and guns...sigh...this is london nowadays i spose, chavs regularly pull meat cleavers out of their pants, just a shame the damn things don't fall down and castrate the twats :D
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#Woolwich 16 Jul 2013 15:59 #5

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Does anyone fancy giving me a precis of that article? I don't think I can take seven hours out of my day, unfortunately.
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#Woolwich 16 Jul 2013 16:00 #6

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Impossible to shorten it really due to the amount of stuff he covers and quite well tbh.
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#Woolwich 16 Jul 2013 18:45 #7

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wake_up_bomb wrote:
Does anyone fancy giving me a precis of that article? I don't think I can take seven hours out of my day, unfortunately.

If you scroll through it he makes numbered bullet points every now & again about everything he elaborates on.
Took me about 2 hours to read last night but it was a good read. I agree there's a few things where his points are possibly incorrect or his argument isn't that strong but overall there's an awful lot where questions certainly need to be asked.
You'd think though that if this was staged they'd have made a better job of it given the discounting of the witnesses & their inconsistencies.... it's hardly meticulous planning. :roll:
The EDL being involved as useful idiots here is also interesting.

Something that I noticed is a few similarities with other psy ops like 9/11.
They'd blamed 'extremism' and 'terrorism' quickly without officially knowing the details - after all people are getting murdered all the time in that London so why the enormous media focus and jumping to conclusions? And why the need for Cobra meetings as if the whole of London was about to be plagued by machete wielding lunatics chopping people up? The soldier angle manufactures the 'patriot' reaction.
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#Woolwich 16 Jul 2013 18:50 #8

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Space Bandit wrote:
The EDL being involved as useful idiots here is also interesting.

Theres enough weirdness going on in this world to make anyone paranoid imho and I wouldn't blame em either :)
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#Woolwich 16 Jul 2013 19:07 #9

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Space Bandit wrote:
wake_up_bomb wrote:
Does anyone fancy giving me a precis of that article? I don't think I can take seven hours out of my day, unfortunately.

If you scroll through it he makes numbered bullet points every now & again about everything he elaborates on.
Took me about 2 hours to read last night but it was a good read. I agree there's a few things where his points are possibly incorrect or his argument isn't that strong but overall there's an awful lot where questions certainly need to be asked.
You'd think though that if this was staged they'd have made a better job of it given the discounting of the witnesses & their inconsistencies.... it's hardly meticulous planning. :roll:
The EDL being involved as useful idiots here is also interesting.

Something that I noticed is a few similarities with other psy ops like 9/11.
They'd blamed 'extremism' and 'terrorism' quickly without officially knowing the details - after all people are getting murdered all the time in that London so why the enormous media focus and jumping to conclusions? And why the need for Cobra meetings as if the whole of London was about to be plagued by machete wielding lunatics chopping people up? The soldier angle manufactures the 'patriot' reaction.

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#Woolwich 16 Jul 2013 21:05 #10

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Space Bandit wrote:
They'd blamed 'extremism' and 'terrorism' quickly without officially knowing the details - after all people are getting murdered all the time in that London so why the enormous media focus and jumping to conclusions?
I felt this way at the time, whenever we see political leaders making grave statements in front of podiums to the media what they have said should instantly be considered suspect.

I just don't know if I have the time or energy to invest in this when people won't take things seriously that are 100% documented fact, let alone remotely contentious.
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#Woolwich 16 Jul 2013 21:41 #11

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wake_up_bomb wrote:
whenever we see political leaders making grave statements in front of podiums to the media what they have said should instantly be considered suspect.
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LOL...I'm just like that now with ANYTHING they say , let alone on a podium with grave faces :p
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#Woolwich 16 Jul 2013 22:17 #12

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LOL...I'm just like that now with ANYTHING they say , let alone on a podium with grave faces :p
Well, that's the only time I hear them because they get blanket media coverage. I ignore everything else completely.
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