The place to see what legislation the sneaky buggers in Parliament are trying to pass.

Feel free to pick a Bill to scrutinise and let us know what "Devilment is in the Detail.
Are you for or against the legislation? How will the bill impact our lives?
If there is enough interest I'll stick up a poll to see if enough people want it stickied.

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I shall be watching the progress of the National Service bill with great interest.

services.parliament.uk/bills/2013-14/nationalservice.html

They wouldn't would they?

hugorune wrote:
Of course they would.

Quality Street wrote:
You're right. Would work wonders for the unemployment figures.

Quality Street wrote:
I hope so (I'm too old )

Got any kids you want to see conscripted?

Take your own advice, eh!

Yes Ma'am.

Twat.

Gilly wrote:
Well they don't conscript 'kids' do they?

On 27th April 1939, Parliament passed the Military Training Act. This act introduced conscription for men aged 20 and 21 who were now required to undertake six months' military training. On the outbreak of the Second World War, Parliament passed the National Service (Armed Forces) Act, under which all men between 18 and 41 were made liable for conscription. It was also announced that single men were called up before married men. The registration of all men in each age group in turn began on 21st October for those aged 20 to 23. By May 1940, registration had extended only as far as men aged 27 and did not reach those aged 40 until June 1941.

Provision was made in the legislation for people to object to military service on moral grounds. Of the first batch of men aged 20 to 23 and estimated 22 in every 1000 objected and went before local military tribunals. The tribunals varied greatly in their attitudes towards conscientious objection to military service and the proportions totally rejected ranged from 6 per cent to 41 per cent.

By the end of 1939 over one and a half million men had been recruited into the armed forces. Of these, 1,128,000 joined the British Army and the remainder were equally divided between the Royal Navy and the Royal Air Force. Every year from thereon, twice a month and once in December because of Christmas, an average of 6000 young men (over 10,000 at peak of Korean War) said their goodbyes and started a new life, always on a Thursday for Army and Air Foce, Mondays for the Navy.

For thousands of young men conscripted into the three services it was their first time away from home, they all coped with it in their own way. At 18yrs of age young men had to register for service and you had a choice, if you were doing an apprenticeship or any sort of training for a career you could opt to defer your service until you were 21.

www.britisharmedforces.org/ns/nat_history.htm

I'm not even reading your post.Some who are kids now will be the right age group if & when this gets brought in, obviously, so

I think Brazil have the right idea though.


en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_service

hugorune wrote: Hopefully by 'National Service' they mean work on placing numerous politicians, bankers and high-ranking media people under citizen's arrest. It would be hard to arrest everyone that deserves this in just a year, so it would have to be an ongoing programme presumably.

United Kingdom (Withdrawal from the European Union) Bill 2013-14

A Bill to make provision for the Government to give notice under Article 50 of the Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union; and for connected purposes.

services.parliament.uk/bills/2013-14/uni...heeuropeanunion.html

Withdrawal from the European Convention of Human Rights and Removal of Alleged Terrorists Bill 2013-14

A Bill to make provision for an application to the Council of Europe to withdraw from the European Convention of Human Rights and to deport alleged terrorists subject to approval by the British courts.

services.parliament.uk/bills/2013-14/wit...legedterrorists.html

I suspect that last one to be very telling.

The UK column is doing exactly the same as TPV in regards to streaming on Youtube pulls in 1900+ viewers a day and you can get a years membership for a quid.

Digital membership: £15 a year.
Print membership £25 a year.

UK Column membership: www.ukcolumn.org/join-the-uk-column

^^^ My post above should have been posted in the TPV thread......just ignore it

Deep Sea Mining Bill 2013-14

This bill needs keeping an eye on because I suspect it will involve exploiting undersea coal seam gas extraction. A very dirty process which involves setting fire to a coal seam and extracting the gas - similar to fracking. Strangely enough the bill mainly deals with licensing allthough its remit is outside UK territorial waters - Which means it is in International waters - how can it be enforced?

Bill as originally presented 2 Sept. 2013
Bill 14: www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/bills/...140014_en_2.htm#l1g1

Progress: services.parliament.uk/bills/2013-14/deepseamining/stages.html
It has had it's third reading in the Lords which means it only has to undergo an amendment hearing before it is presented for Royal Assent.

This one is a Doozy......tiptoe, tiptoe...

Electoral Register (Access to Public Services)

Motion made for leave to bring in a Bill (Standing Order No. 23)
2.14 pm
Extract...
Siobhain McDonagh (Mitcham and Morden) (Lab): I beg to move,

That leave be given to bring in a Bill to introduce a requirement that electoral registration be a condition of access to public services; and for connected purposes.

Registering to vote is about the nearest thing this country has to a social contract. It is recognition that we live in a democracy and abide by the outcome of that democracy. However, about 3.5 million people are not registered to vote. According to the Electoral Commission, these people are likely to be young, on low incomes, private sector tenants, ethnic minorities or people with disabilities. Their disengagement from democracy is a cause of great concern to me and many other Members. This Bill will ensure that they engage.

In future, if someone wants housing benefits, a state pension, a national insurance number or even a driving licence, they will have to be on the electoral register. I do not think that that is too much to ask. After all, if people need to be on the electoral register to get a credit card, why not to get a driving licence?

Linking public services to the register will increase participation and draw an explicit connection between democracy and the benefits we enjoy because we live in a democracy. If someone does not like living in a democracy, that is fine, but they should not expect all the good things that democracy offers in return.

The electoral register is important and deserves to be comprehensive. It is the source of deciding who does jury service, so everyone should be on it. As far as I am concerned, refusal to be on the register shows contempt for juries and contempt for courts. What is more, the electoral register is an important tool in the fight against crime.

The police routinely use the register if they want to get in touch with a suspect or someone who is at risk. It is what banks and credit companies use to prevent fraud. Councils use it to check that people do not commit council tax or benefit fraud. A failure to sign the register is therefore a failure to co-operate with the agencies that fight crime. I do not have a problem with reasonable sanctions being taken against those who do not sign.

Of course, the electoral register should be supported for nobler reasons. Charities use it to help raise funds for countless good causes. When it comes down to it, however, its central purpose—to give people a chance to vote—is more important than anything else. For that reason alone, I think we can all agree that the electoral register should be as comprehensive as possible.

When I went to the USA last year to volunteer on the Obama for America campaign, some politicians engaged in what was called voter suppression, a deliberate attempt to ensure that poor people, ethnic minorities and the young could not vote. Surely none of us wants to live in that kind of country, where elections are won or lost because of who is denied a vote. My Bill is an antidote to voter suppression and it is needed, because the figure of 3.5 million is about to grow.

More: www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm2013...2.htm#13071772000002

Me no likey that one.

Can anyone recommend a country where I will be left the fuck alone?