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The Completely Needless US / UK / EU / NATO Slaughter Thread 23 Apr 2014 15:43 #1

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Following on from the success of the 'Don't Trust the Police' thread, this is 'The Completely Needless US / UK / EU / NATO Slaughter' thread. Just to remind us all why Britain and the United States in particular are such great democracies. Please post your examples of needless slaughter here, and I might did up some of the dozens of historical examples as well.

Here's one for starters:

www.commondreams.org/headline/2014/04/19
US Drone Obliterates Civilians in Yemen

At least fifteen people are killed or wounded in bombing

A Yemen military official on Saturday says that at least fifteen people were either killed or wounded when a missile from a U.S. drone struck vehicles traveling on a road in the central province of al-Bayda.


Among the dead, according reports, are what the official claimed were targeted al-Qaeda militants traveling in two vehicles and also non-targeted passers-by traveling on the same road when the powerful U.S. bomb hit.

According to Reuters, "tribal sources said a drone had been circling al-Bayda for days and on Saturday struck two cars the suspected militants were in. Three civilians who happened to be in a nearby car were also killed, they said."

A security source told Reuters that the missile "targeted cars that suspected al Qaeda militants were in and killed 13 of them."

The Associated Press, however, reports that a "Yemeni official" said nine of the victims in the attack were militants while at least six were "innocent civilians."

The discrepancy in the early reporting does nothing to erase the fact that none of those killed in the bombing were given the opportunity to defend themselves or declare their innocence before being obliterated by what is assumed to be a U.S. Air Force drone operator controlling the aircraft from thousands of miles away.

Yemen is among a handful of countries where the US acknowledges using drones to wage war against militants linked to al-Qaeda, though it continues to comment on the practice that critics say is both an affront to human rights and international law.

As Common Dreams reported earlier this month, Yemenis say the constant threat of U.S. drones buzzing overhead and the fear of being caught up in an airstrike is not only a form of 'psychological torture' but it is actually making the security situation in Yemen worse, not better.

"Entire communities are being killed off and families are being torn apart," said Rooj Alwazir, an anti-drone organizer based in Yemen. "Many people are living in constant fear because they could be next, creating widespread and long-term psychological torture. Many young boys are afraid to gather and children stop going to school and families stop gathering."

"As a result," she added, "the drone program fails to achieve their purpose. Instead of keeping the U.S. and Yemenis safe they end up breeding animosity and tearing apart the social fabric of some of the poorest and marginalized communities in the world."

And in a feature-lenth article for Rolling Stone this month, journalist Vivan Salama reports on "Death From Above: How American Drone Strikes Are Devastating Yemen."

According to Salama, the mystery of who is and who is not targeted by "the American planes that shoot" (as one young girl described the drones) is central to the U.S. targeted killing campaign that is devastating the country:

For the people here who have no ties to Al Qaeda or any militant groups, the constant stress of the drone threat has warped long-standing cultural norms. Mothers are increasingly keeping their children home from school or forbidding them from going to mosque for fear that they might be handed a DVD or SIM card containing propaganda or information linking to Al Qaeda. Just the mere possession of Al Qaeda propaganda or an accidental run-in with a suspected militant is enough, locals believe, to be deemed a legitimate target for the drones. "We don't know who is with Al Qaeda," says Oum Saeed, a middle-aged mother of ten, "but the drones know."
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The Completely Needless US / UK / EU / NATO Slaughter Thread 23 Apr 2014 18:16 #2

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Fucking US army assholes and those fukwit assholes who are gicing them orders for this. :mad: I could go on for quite a lengthy rant why these remote controlled killing machines suck so big time! Unmanned military vehiches should be banned. Oh yea, nuclear weapons and land mines, many are against those, but how about drones then.

Kids are using those tech terrors like they're playing call of duty. Just obeying orders, they don't know shit about who they're really firing at. And I think most don't even care. Press a button and watch a explosion flash on your screen, big deal, mission accomplished sir. :coffee:
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The Completely Needless US / UK / EU / NATO Slaughter Thread 23 Apr 2014 20:38 #3

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Hexhammer wrote:
Kids are using those tech terrors like they're playing call of duty.
I couldn't agree more, that's why I find stuff like this extremely disturbing:



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The Completely Needless US / UK / EU / NATO Slaughter Thread 23 Apr 2014 21:39 #4

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Hexhammer wrote:
Fucking US army assholes and those fukwit assholes who are gicing them orders for this. :mad: I could go on for quite a lengthy rant why these remote controlled killing machines suck so big time! Unmanned military vehiches should be banned. Oh yea, nuclear weapons and land mines, many are against those, but how about drones then.

Kids are using those tech terrors like they're playing call of duty. Just obeying orders, they don't know shit about who they're really firing at. And I think most don't even care. Press a button and watch a explosion flash on your screen, big deal, mission accomplished sir. :coffee:

Until reality, ultimately kicks in.
After analyzing diagnosis and treatment records, the researchers initially found that the drone pilots had higher incidence rates for 12 conditions, including anxiety disorder, depressive disorder, post-traumatic stress disorder, substance abuse and suicidal ideation.

What happens when psycopaths make non-psychopaths behave like they do.
www.nytimes.com/2013/02/23/us/drone-pilo...-combat-do.html?_r=0

Of course the psycopaths will use this in their next Hollywood production about how the invaders suffer. Even when they are never at risk.

Justin Beiber in a crewcut talking about his angst.

The invisble dead and their invisble grieving familes, of course, will never be the Oscar winning part.

c.f. The Deerhunter
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The Completely Needless US / UK / EU / NATO Slaughter Thread 23 Apr 2014 21:51 #5

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Well apparently Matt Rosendale is running for congress. And, apparently, he would like your attention...this is his campaign ad.....



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The Completely Needless US / UK / EU / NATO Slaughter Thread 23 Apr 2014 22:04 #6

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I'm just watching the first video... These soldiers on that heli are fucking pricks as one of them says.

"Hahaha, Yea, I hit him..." "Individuals", "targets","Dead bastards","Nice","Come on, let us shoot","Its their fault if they bring their kids into a battle." <--That sort of talk is not talk of a professional soldier, these are dumb kids with big killing machines, thinking they're just playing a effin wargame.

I don't think kids like these should be soldiers. But hey, what can you do, the younger the better, more dumba dn obedient, the better. Little more adult guys, who are aware of their own mortality and the reality of war are very inefficient soldiers, that's why all armies always have and always will recruit the young people to do the dirty work.

And the lies of the superiors of these american heroes, they're protecting their own bunch, that one more of the things armies do, they wash their own laundry. There's quite interesting misconducts in Finnish defense forces I could tell about, but this thread ain't for that.

I've wathced quite a lot of warfootage, and yet, every time, stuff like that leaves me with a loss of words. And knowing that there are millions of people with similar fates, does not make me feel any better. (On a side note, all this sort of stuff makes me feel proud of my decission to avoid armed service.)
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The Completely Needless US / UK / EU / NATO Slaughter Thread 23 Apr 2014 22:07 #7

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Mikey, you're right, eventually that stuff takes its toll... That's one more reason to kick the old grunts off and get some new recruits in. The one's who 'make it' get into leading positions. High enough officers have a protection of their status to keep them away from harms way. The run-off-the-mill grunt does not have the priviledge to feel very easy about his or her job in the long run.
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The Completely Needless US / UK / EU / NATO Slaughter Thread 23 Apr 2014 22:18 #8

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About the second video, I don't know which one's more disturbing, the video itself, or some of the comments below.

C'est la guerre.

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There's a big bunch of people who want to pull my country into NATO, it has been getting more popular now as Russia's on the move in Ukraine. I think joining NATO would be the biggest mistake ever. If US/EU/NATO would get into a bigger conflict, that would most probably mean most, if not all NATO countries would be inwolved. I don't want to see that happen. And many folks are warming their minds with the idea of NATO 'protecting' us from Russia. I really don't believe anybody would come to our aid if Russia decided to invade for some reason. And I don't want to see Finnish soldiers participating into profit/resource wars somewhere.
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The Completely Needless US / UK / EU / NATO Slaughter Thread 23 Apr 2014 22:23 #9

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It all depends on whether he objects to all US drones or whether he only objects to the ones over the USA.
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The Completely Needless US / UK / EU / NATO Slaughter Thread 23 Apr 2014 22:33 #10

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mikey mikey wrote:
It all depends on whether he objects to all US drones or whether he only objects to the ones over the USA.

He wont get in if he's against drone warfare... That's damn sure. I wonder how big are the armies of the world going to go with this remote killing machine trend. Why don't they just put the machines doing the fighting amongst themselves? That would be more humane approach, to completely take humans out of the harms way. :roll: Never gonna happen I guess.

One thing that sickens me a lot, is the US army over kill doctrine. They always seem to be shooting flies with bazookas. I think the strategists got that idea some seventy years ago.
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The Completely Needless US / UK / EU / NATO Slaughter Thread 23 Apr 2014 22:38 #11

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Check this one out. There's really nothing to see in the video... But the comments. People who write that sort of shit are retarded, complete idiots. I commented on that too. It wont be difficult to guess what I said.
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The Completely Needless US / UK / EU / NATO Slaughter Thread 23 Apr 2014 22:49 #12

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One nutter calls this "so relaxing to watch".

Baron Harkonen is here with us.
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The Completely Needless US / UK / EU / NATO Slaughter Thread 23 Apr 2014 22:54 #14

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"The Spice controls the Empire, who ever controls Dune controls the spice..."

Spice = oil & drugs, The Empire = US / EU, Dune = Middle east.... There's quite a lot in Dune (specially the games) that holds quite close resemblance on what's been going on in middle east for last decades.
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The Completely Needless US / UK / EU / NATO Slaughter Thread 24 Apr 2014 00:10 #15

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The one thing that goes over my conprehension is that why do people want to work as a soldier? Mandatory recruitment is another thing if the option is jailtime or being executed for that kind of, oh so treasonous usage of ones head. But why in heck do young people enlist on armies? They will know at some point that its one big mistake.

There's few options on what will happen to them,
1 They get a decent job in some army base, no real combat, maybe some behind the desk job, or they educate themselves into officers who then educate more recruits for their murderous job.
2 They are sent to some far away country to kill some people off by their masters commands. Which leads to:
3 They get back home/off duty traumatized, missing some limbs or with some other battle trauma which they will carry for the rest of their lives.
4 They get back home in a coffin
5 They get promoted to high enough rank to sit comfortably behind the lines and give orders for cannon fodder to kill some other poor bastards.

And that's about it? Yea, but its patriotic and heroic thing to do and everybody's duty is supposed to defend your country and so on... That's right, but I am yet to see one justification for murder. There's no such honour, no such patriotism, no country, no nation which would be worth a single dead person. And I see wars as legalized massmurder. It doesn't really matter who does it and why, people die, that's the problem. Isn't the very definition of murder a premeditated killing of a person? If that's the definition of murder, then war is massmurder.

Every individual should know their responsibility, if soldiers don't show up, there will not be war.
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The Completely Needless US / UK / EU / NATO Slaughter Thread 24 Apr 2014 00:25 #16

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Indoctrinated cunt acts the indoctrinated cunt.

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Unfortunately so... If people would just notice there's a thing called head between their shoulders and its not just meant for carrying the brain around, but for using it.
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