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TOPIC: Writers Are Artists Too, You Know.

Re: Writers Are Artists Too, You Know. 19 Aug 2012 13:31 #41

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@ IAAIM - thank you! What a lovely poem. :rose: Another talented writer. We're crawling out from under those reams of paper and taking over the world, hahahahaha... Well, SZ anyway! When I know my a from my e, I'll be back to take up your very kind offer. thank you. ANY publicity is good :) None bad or too small. Many thanks.

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You're welcome sunshine. :thumbup:

And thank you for the kind words about the poem. :thumbup:

If you enjoy reading poetry, here's a list of quite a few of the ones I have written ...

www.infinite-love-forum.com/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=268

... the titles in the OP are clickable links to the post of the poem. :thumbup:

:D If you post a picture of your arse and your elbow I'm sure that I would be able to help you differentiate between the two. ;)

There's no rush to supply anything to post on Infy. It isn't going anywhere (at least while I keep paying the bills it isn't :D ). So whenever you are ready, let me know sunshine. :thumbup:

There are quite a few different ways in which to showcase your work nowadays. There are some authors utilising different methods, as well as giving insights into how to get yourself published. Patrick Rothfuss is a great writer that has done some awesome interviews about his work, how to get published, etc ...

www.patrickrothfuss.com/content/index.asp





... Terry Goodkinds latest novel can be purchased directly from his website ...

www.terrygoodkind.com/

... and there was a website I had bookmarked at one point where authors would put up one of their books for free download to introduce people to their work (there were some well known authors involved in it). If I find it I will add it in another post.

Actually, I would recommend reading both Rothfuss and Goodkind. They both have awesome stories and great characterisations throughout.

One idea I had when first reading this thread was, if you put up one book as a free download, you could post a link to it on warez forums with a link to the 'authors site', where you could have the rest of your titles for sale, or even a donations button. Many individuals downloading from warez forums promote buying from the author if you enjoy the book, so ... :dunno:

Here's an example of a warez ebook sub-forum ...

bolt.cd/board/f19/

... at the time of posting this, Bolt has 821,570 members. So you can see, it would get you a bit of traffic. Add to that multiple warez forums and I think you get the picture. ;)
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Re: Writers Are Artists Too, You Know. 19 Aug 2012 13:46 #42

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@Mandy, well, you should be getting your own work up and out there too, Missy. :D Like Starchildren and I were saying, now is the greatest time of freedom for every writer. Armoured amazon and Wake Up Bomb are also well published out there. :thumbup:

Did you know too that you can get loads of free romantic novels online:

www.free-online-novels.com/romance.html

www.publicbookshelf.com/

and the free mobipocket ebook reader to collect them in an ebook library:

www.mobipocket.com/en/DownloadSoft/ProductDetailsReader.asp
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Thanks for those links, cantata - I've bookmarked them! Free romance novels looks great!

It will be a while before I actually have any work worth putting out there - currently I'm half-way through a short story! When I've finished it, may I please send it to you for a squiz? May be a while though!

I also have quite a bit of poetry stashed away, some of it dating back years! :D

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Re: Writers Are Artists Too, You Know. 19 Aug 2012 14:25 #43

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@ Frog - thank you, again! Gawd, my brain is addled and I haven't even started yet. :D But what I'm thinking is that I'll register my domain name with freeparking (do I do thaty first?) then go with SZ, if novum and DG say okay. then I can plague you all with aquestions ad infinitum! :D Froggles.... er.... could you give me a list of TOTALLY mega baby-steps as to what I do, when you get the chance? Bearing in mind that I didn't know what "cpanel" meant and have only just learned what hmtl stood for. :emb: In pm or here - to suit yourself, when you get the chance - just in case anyone else wants to know about it.

Really, Many Thanks. :)

It's worth you owning the domain at the very least you can use the free popmail service provided with it for your personal email. If you have Cpanel you have more flexibility with your email service.

Personally I wouldn't spend money until you're ready to commit to something and before you do that you need something you're comfortable with using. I would take advantage of the Joomla trial which is the element that you would need to deal with most of the time and it's the part others see. If at the end of the trial you want to keep going and commit to Joomla then you can worry about hosting.

Hosting support would only really cover the system i.e that the hosting services are up and running it wouldn't cover third party scripts for example. Once joomla is installed and your emails are setup you don't need to do much in Cpanel very often unless you want or need to. The most common tasks in CP would be file management or check logs and email settings etc. Occasionally you may need to access phpmyadmin to sort out the database but with Joomla that is not required very often and for many users they don't use it after they setup the first database.

It's probably best to have a go with the trial system and not rush into anything, you can setup more than one site on the trial and there is sample data to help you get started. Once you have sussed things out a bit you can form a plan of action and setup shop to suit your needs. I can chip in if you have the trial running and it would probably be easier to discuss if you're asking questions with something to apply them to.

In the post a couple above this one there is a beginners guide which is worth reading through to get an idea of how the system works. If you use the joomla demo you can read the guide along side the demo. I'm not to sure where to start as far as baby steps go. The first thing you need to do is install Joomla and I would imagine that the demo walks you through that because it's geared toward new users. The process on the J demo site will be a little different to the approach required for a new system on your own hosting. I haven't used their demo service before but after taking a quick look there seems to be some step by step instructions. You need to sign up for the service and then scroll to the bottom of the page and click on launch new site.

The best thing to do is use there free subdomain option as opposed to the other two options. The system you need to install is Joomla 2.5 which is the current long term stable release. Once you get setup you can ask questions about things that you need help with. You could open a new thread on here in the tech sub forum for that purpose.
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Re: Writers Are Artists Too, You Know. 19 Aug 2012 18:57 #44

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I now own the domain name of my proposed site :hypo: (although freeparking is also telling me I have a free 4-page website up under their "Under Construction" notice *gulp* :O ).

I had to make a start or I knew I'd just set things aside until....................................................................... later. :D

Thank you all so much Starchildren, Frog, WUB, jhado, IAAIA and Mandy. I had an empty head this time yesterday; today it's THROBBING :D

(And @ Mandy - I'm far from any kind of "writing expert" - but I do have a Good Eye and I'm always ready to read for and help out another writer however I can!).

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Re: Writers Are Artists Too, You Know. 19 Aug 2012 19:51 #45

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cantata wrote:
I now own the domain name of my proposed site :hypo: (although freeparking is also telling me I have a free 4-page website up under their "Under Construction" notice *gulp* :O ).

I had to make a start or I knew I'd just set things aside until....................................................................... later. :D

Thank you all so much Starchildren, Frog, WUB, jhado, IAAIA and Mandy. I had an empty head this time yesterday; today it's THROBBING :D

(And @ Mandy - I'm far from any kind of "writing expert" - but I do have a Good Eye and I'm always ready to read for and help out another writer however I can!).

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Well done re the domain name, cantata!

Thanks for saying you don't mind reading my "efforts" - very kind of you. I added a bit more to my story today so it's coming on a little! :)

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Re: Writers Are Artists Too, You Know. 19 Aug 2012 20:17 #46

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cantata wrote:
@ Frog - thank you, again! Gawd, my brain is addled and I haven't even started yet. :D But what I'm thinking is that I'll register my domain name with freeparking (do I do thaty first?) then go with SZ, if novum and DG say okay.

Of course I say okay (as does Nov I'm sure)....need you ask darlin? :D

Good one and good luck :)
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Re: Writers Are Artists Too, You Know. 19 Aug 2012 20:57 #47

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:thumbup: This is a great thread, which I intend to read more thoroughly when my eyes feel less like a pair of throbbing blisters.

It's exciting to see there's some creativity going on, and I'm looking forward to reading some of your works, Cantata & Mandy (and Psketti if she can be persuaded to do something with her manuscript.).

If anyone knows Hagbard Celine from the other place, he's had novel published, and is always very amenable to have a chat with re anything of that nature, so he might be able to offer some tips.
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Re: Writers Are Artists Too, You Know. 19 Aug 2012 21:26 #48

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cantata wrote:
@ Frog - thank you, again! Gawd, my brain is addled and I haven't even started yet. :D But what I'm thinking is that I'll register my domain name with freeparking (do I do thaty first?) then go with SZ, if novum and DG say okay.

Of course I say okay (as does Nov I'm sure)....need you ask darlin? :D

Good one and good luck :)

Oooooo, thank you DG :hypo: So which layby do I meet you all in..... I mean, what do I do next?

:hypo: :D
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Re: Writers Are Artists Too, You Know. 19 Aug 2012 21:46 #49

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cantata wrote:

Oooooo, thank you DG :hypo: So which layby do I meet you all in..... I mean, what do I do next?

:hypo: :D

What? Somebody say layby?? :norty:
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Re: Writers Are Artists Too, You Know. 20 Aug 2012 02:22 #50

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I now own the domain name of my proposed site :hypo: (although freeparking is also telling me I have a free 4-page website up under their "Under Construction" notice *gulp* :O ).

Congrats on securing your domain name. :cool:

If you don't want the site to resolve to the four page WizzSite you can change the behavior by logging in to the domain cpanel and then from the menu > My Domains > Maintain a Domain > select the domain > Edit Domain Name Properties > Now select Tick Under Construction Page. an alternative option is to redirect the page to one of the urls where your book is currently listed to do that follow the instructions above but uncheck the Under construction Page option and then enter the required url in the field bellow and click on update. Now your domain name should resolve to the page you have entered in the url. That would be OK for a temporary solution while you sort out the website.

A word of caution: The URL masking method probably wont play nice with sites that have a payment gateway for sales items - so the final option above may not be an ideal solution under those circumstances.

You can of course use the WizzSite pages but they are very limited in what they offer...the markup is very restricted plus you can't host much in the way of images although that can be overcome with offsite images. ;) It's difficult to build pages which look nice using the WizzSite option. :(

You can also setup one of your free popemail accounts or you can wait until you have a hosting account of your own which offers better email functionality. It's not a problem to add a mail account and then change it later. Email is setup from the menu > Extra Services > POP3 Email .

Now this bit is important to remember! With your freeparking account there is no need to transfer the domain to any other service! You have full control of the DNS record which allows you to direct the domain and subdomains to any IP address to access your hosting or other online services related to your domain. You also need to maintain your contact details with the registrar. Always use an email address unrelated to your domains held by them [in case there is an issue with your domain which effects your email as well which would prevent them contacting you].

That should be all you need to know about the domain stuff for now. You will need to setup the DNS record once you have a hosting location sorted out but that can be done when the situation arises.

Oh one more thing you can also use the url redirect to point to the joomla trail site if you wished. If you decide to do that it maybe wise to set the robots.txt file to exclude all bots to prevent google etc. from indexing temporary data. Although using that redirect method shouldn't cause the bots to sniff about in the physical public root. I'm not 100% sure on how that actually works without testing it though. Changing the robots.txt file would ensure the directives are there for the bots that respect it.
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