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Alex Jones on the false two party paradigm 24 May 2012 08:17 #1

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Yeah I know everyone has an opinion on him. :hahano:

But lets just look at the information presented in this case, I happen to like the way this video is put together, its short and to the point.

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Re: Alex Jones on the false two party paradigm 24 May 2012 15:10 #2

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I think he raises an important point regarding climate change, which I believe is the most important issue facing us. Lots of well-meaning people have been suckered into thinking that this is an anti-corporate issue and by blindly supporting any policies that are put forward in relation to carbon dioxide emissions, they are somehow providing some sort of leverage against vested interest and big business. You only need to do a rudimentary amount of research to find out that this is good for all the big electricity companies, they favour it, they're all promoting it on their websites. Here's one example of this from the world's biggest electricity company:

www.ft.com/cms/s/0/85e8629e-6a20-11e1-b5...0.html#axzz1vnN24QYY

GE rejects Republicans’ climate change doubts
General Electric has brushed aside the doubts leading Republican presidential contenders have raised about climate science.

The US industrial and financial conglomerate said it had long seen climate change as a valid concern after an internal evaluation of the scientific case in 2005.

“We found enough data there to have a company like GE respond and we have responded,” said Mark Vachon, head of the “ecomagination” sustainable business initiative GE launched in that year. He said revenues generated by operations in his portfolio now totalled $100bn and were growing at more than twice the rate of those in the rest of the company.

And because carbon trading is now going to be made into a massive market - indeed, it already is - the banks will never be far behind, in fact, they'll usually be leading the way:

www.hsbc.com/1/2/newsroom/news/2007/hsbc...centre-of-excellence
HSBC today announced the appointment of Nick Robins as head of its newly created Climate Change Centre of Excellence.

Mr. Robins is an acknowledged leader in socially responsible investment and research with over 17 years experience of promoting sustainability in business practice, financial markets and public policy. He has written numerous books and reports on global economic, sustainability and corporate accountability issues, and is a member of the UK Government's Sustainable Development Panel.

David Burnett, Head of Global Research, said "Nick's appointment as a dedicated specialist in this field allows us to add real value to our research capability. It will establish HSBC as a leading voice on identifying economic opportunities associated with a lower carbon economy for the benefit of the Group's clients and for the Group's own businesses."
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Re: Alex Jones on the false two party paradigm 24 May 2012 16:42 #3

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Its crap because he:

a) Supports a Republican who he knows will never win and..
b) Never mentions the libertarian party..not once!
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Re: Alex Jones on the false two party paradigm 24 May 2012 21:24 #4

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wake_up_bomb wrote:
Lots of well-meaning people have been suckered into thinking that this is an anti-corporate issue and by blindly supporting any policies that are put forward in relation to carbon dioxide emissions, they are somehow providing some sort of leverage against vested interest and big business.

That is how they sell it, yes.

And of course the reality is, its the same corporate interests behind both sides.

Just another tool to monopolise business, mining, water, food production, and its all happenning, right now.

Even other millionaires and billionaires and their businesses are targets, but try explain that one to people. Those not part of the club will be regulated and taxed to breaking point, at which time someone will conveniently come in and take control of their operations. This applies to mining, energy production and food production off the top of my head...there are more things.

Australian food production for example is being decimated because of 'climate change' and 'less water in the future'

Yet the watercourses are flooded, but The Crown and their puppet politicians dont respond to protesting, they couldnt care less.

Same will happen to certain mining companies who are takeover targets.

But the elite sell it as a 'leftist' movement that is 'against big oil' etc...its a crock of shit, but they sell it well.
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Re: Alex Jones on the false two party paradigm 24 May 2012 21:26 #5

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andyh wrote:
Never mentions the libertarian party..not once!

He would lose too much of his fan base if he did that :yeahno:
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Re: Alex Jones on the false two party paradigm 28 May 2012 18:43 #6

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wake_up_bomb wrote:
I think he raises an important point regarding climate change, which I believe is the most important issue facing us. Lots of well-meaning people have been suckered into thinking that this is an anti-corporate issue and by blindly supporting any policies that are put forward in relation to carbon dioxide emissions, they are somehow providing some sort of leverage against vested interest and big business. You only need to do a rudimentary amount of research to find out that this is good for all the big electricity companies, they favour it, they're all promoting it on their websites. Here's one example of this from the world's biggest electricity company:

www.ft.com/cms/s/0/85e8629e-6a20-11e1-b5...0.html#axzz1vnN24QYY

GE rejects Republicans’ climate change doubts
General Electric has brushed aside the doubts leading Republican presidential contenders have raised about climate science.

The US industrial and financial conglomerate said it had long seen climate change as a valid concern after an internal evaluation of the scientific case in 2005.

“We found enough data there to have a company like GE respond and we have responded,” said Mark Vachon, head of the “ecomagination” sustainable business initiative GE launched in that year. He said revenues generated by operations in his portfolio now totalled $100bn and were growing at more than twice the rate of those in the rest of the company.

And because carbon trading is now going to be made into a massive market - indeed, it already is - the banks will never be far behind, in fact, they'll usually be leading the way:

www.hsbc.com/1/2/newsroom/news/2007/hsbc...centre-of-excellence
HSBC today announced the appointment of Nick Robins as head of its newly created Climate Change Centre of Excellence.

Mr. Robins is an acknowledged leader in socially responsible investment and research with over 17 years experience of promoting sustainability in business practice, financial markets and public policy. He has written numerous books and reports on global economic, sustainability and corporate accountability issues, and is a member of the UK Government's Sustainable Development Panel.

David Burnett, Head of Global Research, said "Nick's appointment as a dedicated specialist in this field allows us to add real value to our research capability. It will establish HSBC as a leading voice on identifying economic opportunities associated with a lower carbon economy for the benefit of the Group's clients and for the Group's own businesses."

These are really good points, WUB. It's all controlled opposition. The idea of taxing people for something that is literally unavoidable is genius from a business standpoint, so long as the people remain ignorant. Carbon taxing would be a never-ending source of revenue, as nature itself produces various forms of carbon. Typically forests, sea plants, and algae balance the carbon ratio out when they absorb it for photosynthesis. It seems by design that these ecosystems are under attack. The solutions are carbon taxes, artificial trees, and other pseudo-green tech. None of the 'green' tech is produced with sustainability, longevity, or efficiency in mind. They're all made to break down or made to be obsolete. They have to be continuously produced, and likely equate to raised taxes to help 'save the planet'. The simplest solution would be to stop deforestation, and use hemp and weed trees for our paper and lumber needs. Cultivating tree and algae farms could be used to absorb carbon. It would be cost effective, efficient, and sustainable. That's everything this system doesn't want.
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Re: Alex Jones on the false two party paradigm 29 May 2012 13:23 #7

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novum wrote:
andyh wrote:
Never mentions the libertarian party..not once!

He would lose too much of his fan base if he did that :yeahno:

The irony is amazing...you would expect that freedom loving americans would be as libertarian as all hell.

Apparently not. And here we are wondering if there's some amazing intricate conspiracy to worry about :)

I call it the conspiracy of human stupidity,ignorance and apathy.
The 3 'wise' monkeys, lol.
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Re: Alex Jones on the false two party paradigm 20 Jun 2012 00:17 #8

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andyh wrote:
novum wrote:
andyh wrote:
Never mentions the libertarian party..not once!

He would lose too much of his fan base if he did that :yeahno:

The irony is amazing...you would expect that freedom loving americans would be as libertarian as all hell.

Apparently not. And here we are wondering if there's some amazing intricate conspiracy to worry about :)

I call it the conspiracy of human stupidity,ignorance and apathy.
The 3 'wise' monkeys, lol.

Jones himself comes across as a control freak. I might listen to him occasionally if he whispered.
It bothers me too much that he occasionally adds a bit of delay to his voice - so you can hear what he shouts again, and again, slightly quieter.
That's the sign of somebody who loves their own voice.
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Re: Alex Jones on the false two party paradigm 20 Jun 2012 00:32 #9

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I can finally say it :band:

Alex Jones works for the "Council for National Policy" a right wing think tank designed to regain the christian right control of the american political system ,funded by the guy who writes the wacky endtime "left behind" books

alex jone's guest list read like a who's who of memebers of the CNP

as with most people in the world of conspiracy theory it's usually 90% truth with 10% opinion and subjective beliefs
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Re: Alex Jones on the false two party paradigm 02 Oct 2012 10:18 #10

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www.wingtv.net/thorn2006/jarhead.html

:couch: Alex Jones the Parking lot incident
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Re: Alex Jones on the false two party paradigm 02 Oct 2012 12:10 #11

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Alex Jones, in 2000, ran as a Republican candidate in Austin, Texas.

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darthmiike wrote:
"Council for National Policy"

Very interesting stuff there. Cheers.
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Alex Jones on the false two party paradigm 03 Mar 2014 00:37 #13

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I've had people get all worked up at me being dismissive
Of the left right paradigm ,
While on other topics tbey call me a lefty loon and lefty socialist
Who supports obama,
Left right paradigm is a phrase used when it suits the speaker
To confuse a debate it's that simple imho

It makes no sense , quite literaly none whatsoever ,
It suggests or rather it's based on the premise that
There is no difference in any socio political ideologies
Which if true has Hitler down as a libdem and green party member
While Stalin is a conservative tory .

Politicians need votes by voters the media influence voters
Politicians need to react to public opinions to get the votes to get into power

Whichever political power or party has the most media influence dictates who is elected and the secound best
Must pander to certain popular agendas which fall under the title cross party policies
That is not an indicator of a paradigm but it's focussed on by those saying there is paradigm

Take the swp and bnp in a left right paradigm these extreme opposites would have similar policies why then don't they ?
Answer. Because it's a contrived concept designed to confuse
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Re: Alex Jones on the false two party paradigm 03 Mar 2014 00:39 #14

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mikey mikey wrote:
Alex Jones, in 2000, ran as a Republican candidate in Austin, Texas.

:coffee:

Or as he refers to it the socialist fascist party of the loony left :usa:
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Alex Jones on the false two party paradigm 03 Mar 2014 00:44 #15

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Alex Jones on the false two party paradigm 03 Mar 2014 01:02 #16

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This is another vid along similar lines as the OP

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Alex Jones on the false two party paradigm 14 Apr 2014 20:22 #17

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Alex Jones has made it clear that he is a shill for fascist Russia. His mission is to destroy America as we know it by whipping up dissent among as many people as he can.
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Alex Jones on the false two party paradigm 14 Apr 2014 20:31 #18

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There are fascists everywhere, and if certain people get their way, youre headed that way whether Alex Jones and Russia even existed or not.

If people dont stand up to whats coming out of the globalists think tanks one way or another, you will end up like test bed Australia, where the criminals have all the guns and you rely on the state to protect your home (they dont because they arent in your home all the time) , and the government takes your vehicle if you spin a tire or have the sound system up too loud and they sell it at government auctions.. and two corporations control 80 percent of packaged food sales... and so on.
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Alex Jones has made it clear that he is a shill for fascist Russia. His mission is to destroy America as we know it by whipping up dissent among as many people as he can.

Interesting comment. Do you fancy backing that up with some facts to widen the debate.
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