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the reason i think rik clay was taken out and connecting the saturn factor 27 Feb 2013 22:07 #1

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I would just like you to read what Rik Clay said in his research of symbolism and the occult...he died aged 26 although some say he was murdered.

Ponder his words " imagine your body is a biological computer and that your five senses are filters.If you were to remove these filters you would be bombarded by an all engrossing white light- a whole array of different energies which you cannot perceive under normal conditions.

When you show emotion to a symbol,an object,a person,your lover- you are generating frequencies of energy which cannot be perceived through your 5 senses.

Now imagine that an 'intelligence' which resides outside of your 5 senses,in another dimension of reality perhaps,is capturing that energy for itself-for its own personal gain.It uses the so called 'ELite' to control the masses by occult symbolism and word/number systems.

The occult operates in co-ordinance with this 'intelligence' and since the occult symbolism involved has a saturn bias then is this 'intelligence' based on saturn or its moons.

The number ,word and time systems also have a saturn bias..its like our minds are beng programmed.
The grim reaper[saturn] loves order out of chaos...the free[phre]masons moto..ancient civilisations worshipped saturn[saturnalia for example]..the black sun.
In astrology they use deception and say our 'sun' is the ruler of Leo..Leo is EL or saturn opposite the 11th sign of aquarius,the water bearer ruled by saturn too...in ancient history some say saturn caused the deluge...something which higher level freemasons are wanting to create again..Atlantis,Lemuria all perished under the waters...was it by design?
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the reason i think rik clay was taken out and connecting the saturn factor 27 Feb 2013 22:12 #2

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But doesn't the whole Global Warming/Climate Change agenda contradict that?
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the reason i think rik clay was taken out and connecting the saturn factor 27 Feb 2013 22:19 #3

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oioioi wrote:
But doesn't the whole Global Warming/Climate Change agenda contradict that?

not really...climate change is just an engineered excuse to be a cover for what they are planning..dont forget they have technology now that could take out entire countries...not my words..but judy wood's/john hutchison's...if they carry out depopulation it will be by water in my opinion..most population centres are near to water...we've had test runs like 2004 tsumami and japanese one
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the reason i think rik clay was taken out and connecting the saturn factor 27 Feb 2013 22:53 #4

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Who are these 'some' you refer to?

The 'some' that say Clay was murdered and the 'some' in ancient history who say Saturn caused the deluge.

Ta.
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the reason i think rik clay was taken out and connecting the saturn factor 27 Feb 2013 23:31 #5

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It's interesting to think about these various animal totems in mythology, the Lion seems to me to represent a Persian or Asiatic Empire or historical "power" present around 1000-400BCE, the Achaemenid Empire used the Lion as an Emblem.

The lion also figures in Buddhist and Indian/Vedic mythology.

You could almost draw a parallel between Aryanism or the ancient mythological culture the Nazis hunted, and the dispersal of the asiatic Lion:
there was a continuous population extending into India.[25] Cave lions appeared about 600,000 years ago and were distributed throughout Europe, across Siberia and into western Alaska.
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the reason i think rik clay was taken out and connecting the saturn factor 28 Feb 2013 03:25 #6

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V. interesting subject coates.

What some find frustrating however is that you could just about tie 'Saturnalia' into almost anything, if you looked hard enough. Advocates might simply respond that this is the very point, but it can be difficult to persuade everyone to take a look into it for themselves.

I find it fascinating though. Almost as fascinating as some people's righteous indignation when you point out that they might actually be partaking in some form of ritual, albeit unwittingly.

Nov knows a lot about symbolism too and has started some good threads on here about it actually.
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the reason i think rik clay was taken out and connecting the saturn factor 28 Feb 2013 08:23 #7

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Ab Origine wrote:
V. interesting subject coates.

What some find frustrating however is that you could just about tie 'Saturnalia' into almost anything, if you looked hard enough. Advocates might simply respond that this is the very point, but it can be difficult to persuade everyone to take a look into it for themselves.

I find it fascinating though. Almost as fascinating as some people's righteous indignation when you point out that they might actually be partaking in some form of ritual, albeit unwittingly.

Nov knows a lot about symbolism too and has started some good threads on here about it actually.

I am presuming then that you and Nov are also aware of Matthew Delooze, It was funny though when Matthew Delooze was speaking once, and Coates was shouting at him "it's all about Saturn", They had a pint together in the pub afterwards though. And I have to say, although many (money-making ) guru's now are talking about Saturn, it was coates who first mentioned it to me about 8-9 yrs ago. His style is shit, but he is a knowlegable guy.
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the reason i think rik clay was taken out and connecting the saturn factor 28 Feb 2013 20:20 #8

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jhado..i believe matthew knows its saturn and not the sun...suzie too but for some reason they keep on saying sun worship....i saw it in Matts eyes in liverpool..he cant fool me mate
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the reason i think rik clay was taken out and connecting the saturn factor 28 Feb 2013 20:27 #9

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coates wrote:
oioioi wrote:
But doesn't the whole Global Warming/Climate Change agenda contradict that?

not really...climate change is just an engineered excuse to be a cover for what they are planning..dont forget they have technology now that could take out entire countries...not my words..but judy wood's/john hutchison's...if they carry out depopulation it will be by water in my opinion..most population centres are near to water...we've had test runs like 2004 tsumami and japanese one

How about lack of water by having no power to pump it?
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the reason i think rik clay was taken out and connecting the saturn factor 28 Feb 2013 20:45 #10

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feather wrote:
Who are these 'some' you refer to?

The 'some' that say Clay was murdered and the 'some' in ancient history who say Saturn caused the deluge.

Ta.

'some' on david icke forum speculated about riks death...i mean its pretty wierd they chose 11th sept for his funeral and scattered his ashes at a saturn symbolism site on ilkley moor..the swaztika stones..what they trying to do,trap his soul or something?

deluge and saturn mentioned by velikosky and another guy called john talbot
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the reason i think rik clay was taken out and connecting the saturn factor 01 Mar 2013 06:38 #11

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yeah ive seen the debates, some say the symbols on old sumerian tablets are the sun and planets, others say its really saturn and its moons.

Lemshay


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swastika and hexagram seem to tie into all of that.

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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hexagram
A hexagram (Greek) or sexagram (Latin) is a six-pointed geometric star figure with Schläfli symbol {6|2}, 2{3}, or {{3}}. It is the compound of two equilateral triangles. The intersection is a regular hexagon.

It is used in historical, religious and cultural contexts, for example in Jewish identity, Hinduism, Occultism and Islam.

Six pointed stars have also been found in cosmological diagrams in Hinduism, Buddhism, and Jainism. The reasons behind this symbol's common appearance in Indic religions and the West are unknown. One possibility is that they have a common origin. The other possibility is that artists and religious people from several cultures independently created the hexagram shape, which is a relatively simple geometric design.

In Buddhism, some old versions of the Bardo Thodol, also known as The "Tibetan Book of the Dead", contain a hexagram with a Swastika inside.

The hexagram, like the pentagram, was and is used in practices of the occult and ceremonial magic and is attributed to the 7 "old" planets outlined in astrology. The six-pointed star is commonly used both as a talisman and for conjuring spirits in the practice of witchcraft. In the book The History and Practice of Magic, Vol. 2, the six-pointed star is called the talisman of Saturn and it is also referred to as the Seal of Solomon.

The hexagram, one of the world's most ancient symbols, is featured within and on the outside of many Masonic temples as a decoration. It may have been found within the structures of King Solomon's temple, from which Freemasons are inspired in their philosophies and studies. Like many other symbols in Freemasonry, the deciphering of the hexagram is non-dogmatic and left to the interpretation of the individual.

The main runways and taxiways of Heathrow Airport were arranged roughly in the shape of a hexagram.

763px Aerial Photograph Of Heathrow Airport%2C 1955
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the reason i think rik clay was taken out and connecting the saturn factor 01 Mar 2013 06:42 #12

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Was just thinking of you...

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the reason i think rik clay was taken out and connecting the saturn factor 01 Mar 2013 06:56 #13

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Ab Origine wrote:
Was just thinking of you...

:kisskiss:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0oNHQQBhrk

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the reason i think rik clay was taken out and connecting the saturn factor 01 Mar 2013 07:03 #14

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The latin name for hexagram is interesting...


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A hexagram (Greek) or sexagram (Latin) is a six-pointed geometric star figure

:O
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the reason i think rik clay was taken out and connecting the saturn factor 01 Mar 2013 07:33 #15

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novum wrote:
The latin name for hexagram is interesting...


novum wrote:
A hexagram (Greek) or sexagram (Latin) is a six-pointed geometric star figure

:O

And the Greek name for Saturn is Kronos, who had 6 kids, killed 5.
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the reason i think rik clay was taken out and connecting the saturn factor 01 Mar 2013 07:36 #16

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oioioi wrote:
novum wrote:
The latin name for hexagram is interesting...


novum wrote:
A hexagram (Greek) or sexagram (Latin) is a six-pointed geometric star figure

:O

And the Greek name for Saturn is Kronos, who had 6 kids, killed 5.

www.imdb.com/title/tt0050610/
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the reason i think rik clay was taken out and connecting the saturn factor 01 Mar 2013 19:12 #17

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Thought you might like this coates. Though you've likely came across it already.

vigilantcitizen.com/
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the reason i think rik clay was taken out and connecting the saturn factor 02 Mar 2013 10:30 #18

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oioioi wrote:
novum wrote:
The latin name for hexagram is interesting...


novum wrote:
A hexagram (Greek) or sexagram (Latin) is a six-pointed geometric star figure

:O

And the Greek name for Saturn is Kronos, who had 6 kids, killed 5.

is that why we have mi6 and mi5 and john dee's 007?
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