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Which conspiracy sites most value the truth? 15 May 2013 14:55 #21

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Do you really think I made a deal about the shite moderation here for my own interests?

Absolutely not.

I notice you deleted some of my posts, and some of Goldensun and John Drake's after Thor requested it,


I edited yours for being a homophobic prick and goldenarses for being a racist twat. Show me where I edited drakes....
I don't see how calling somebody I know is straight a faggit is necessarily homophobic?
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Which conspiracy sites most value the truth? 15 May 2013 15:01 #22

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Mike wrote:
psketti wrote:
Mike wrote:
Do you really think I made a deal about the shite moderation here for my own interests?

Absolutely not.

I notice you deleted some of my posts, and some of Goldensun and John Drake's after Thor requested it,


I edited yours for being a homophobic prick and goldenarses for being a racist twat. Show me where I edited drakes....
I don't see how calling somebody I know is straight a faggit is necessarily homophobic?


I'm not even going to warrent that with an answer.
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Which conspiracy sites most value the truth? 15 May 2013 15:07 #23

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Mike wrote:
psketti wrote:
Mike wrote:
Do you really think I made a deal about the shite moderation here for my own interests?

Absolutely not.

I notice you deleted some of my posts, and some of Goldensun and John Drake's after Thor requested it,


I edited yours for being a homophobic prick and goldenarses for being a racist twat. Show me where I edited drakes....
I don't see how calling somebody I know is straight a faggit is necessarily homophobic?

Shush, you've been "moderated", now you want an opinion too..................... :gleek:
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Which conspiracy sites most value the truth? 15 May 2013 15:44 #24

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psketti wrote:
Mike wrote:
psketti wrote:
Mike wrote:
Do you really think I made a deal about the shite moderation here for my own interests?

Absolutely not.

I notice you deleted some of my posts, and some of Goldensun and John Drake's after Thor requested it,


I edited yours for being a homophobic prick and goldenarses for being a racist twat. Show me where I edited drakes....
I don't see how calling somebody I know is straight a faggit is necessarily homophobic?


I'm not even going to warrent that with an answer.
is that your answer?
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Which conspiracy sites most value the truth? 15 May 2013 16:44 #25

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is that your answer?



You can be such a knob.
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Last Edit: 18 May 2013 13:26 by psketti.
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Which conspiracy sites most value the truth? 18 May 2013 12:44 #26

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Mike wrote:
Reflex have you got this document?
Not a finished version. But getting closer.

The document avoids using mainstream facts to counter alternative claims, as nothing the mainstream says will have any credibility to the other side. Instead, it counters conspiracists claims of with other conspiracists claims.

The general approach is comparing a report from a (corrupt) conspiracy site with the source material they reference, and highlight how the details have been changed or omitted to twist the meaning of the story. My naive hope would be that people will realise they are being lied to, and be awoken to the deceptive ways they are being manipulated.

Sadly, my experiences have shown me that when you shine a light in to people's eyes, they just shut their eyelids more tightly. After all, virtually everyone knows that Icke is a liar and hypocrite, yet people still absorb the lies he tells. But at least those who genuinely seek the truth may have the strength to separate what's happening from what they want to believe.
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Which conspiracy sites most value the truth? 18 May 2013 12:49 #27

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If it's that "hard hitting" I'm sure it will get the attention it deserves regardless of where it is posted.
Not when the sites it gets posted on are implicated by the posting. As mentioned, even brining up the topic of corruption gets postings removed. The whole conspiracy/alternative movement has been compromised. It's all about money and capturing eyeballs nowadays. The truth became a casualty as soon as sites started asking for donations to "support the cause".
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Which conspiracy sites most value the truth? 18 May 2013 13:28 #28

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reflex wrote:
The truth became a casualty as soon as sites started asking for donations to "support the cause".


Well this one doesn't do that.
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Which conspiracy sites most value the truth? 18 May 2013 13:58 #29

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reflex wrote:
oioioi wrote:
If it's that "hard hitting" I'm sure it will get the attention it deserves regardless of where it is posted.
Not when the sites it gets posted on are implicated by the posting. As mentioned, even brining up the topic of corruption gets postings removed. The whole conspiracy/alternative movement has been compromised. It's all about money and capturing eyeballs nowadays. The truth became a casualty as soon as sites started asking for donations to "support the cause".

You big tease!
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Which conspiracy sites most value the truth? 18 May 2013 14:06 #30

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reflex wrote:
Mike wrote:
Reflex have you got this document?
Not a finished version. But getting closer.

The document avoids using mainstream facts to counter alternative claims, as nothing the mainstream says will have any credibility to the other side. Instead, it counters conspiracists claims of with other conspiracists claims.

The general approach is comparing a report from a (corrupt) conspiracy site with the source material they reference, and highlight how the details have been changed or omitted to twist the meaning of the story. My naive hope would be that people will realise they are being lied to, and be awoken to the deceptive ways they are being manipulated.

Sadly, my experiences have shown me that when you shine a light in to people's eyes, they just shut their eyelids more tightly. After all, virtually everyone knows that Icke is a liar and hypocrite, yet people still absorb the lies he tells. But at least those who genuinely seek the truth may have the strength to separate what's happening from what they want to believe.
I notice the same laziness in truthers that I see with middle class consumers who think about nothing just repeat opinions or narratives they hear on the news, truthers just repeat crazy theories they've read on the internetz, they haven't reasoned based on evidence, they've assimilated "facts" and a conspiracy narrative to their own outlook, it's very easy to do this as opposed to dialectically constructing your new understanding brick by brick from the bottom up, which requires some involvement, investment, time and energy, but imo also humility, a willingness to accept one's fallibility and thus that of others ;)

I for one am really looking forward to reading this document you're producing, maybe you could host it here in the blogs section?
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Which conspiracy sites most value the truth? 18 May 2013 21:12 #31

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Mike wrote:
I for one am really looking forward to reading this document you're producing, maybe you could host it here in the blogs section?
I've got all the material, but it's so hard to turn it into something which will capture the reader's attention. If it's too short there won't be room to include all the information. If it's too long, people will lose interest. Too direct and the people it's targeted to will get defensive and reject the information.

I'm hoping I'll be able to post it here in the near future and get feedback from a local sample of readers and make adjustments based on that.
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Which conspiracy sites most value the truth? 19 May 2013 10:54 #32

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Which conspiracy sites most value the truth? 19 May 2013 13:42 #33

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